Fresh off The Boat Podcast
Fresh Off The Boat is where music, culture, and conversation collide. Hosted by Tobe Onyebuchi, the show dives deep into the heartbeat of Afrobeats, hip hop, and global pop culture — connecting the sounds, stories, and people shaping today’s creative landscape.
Fresh off The Boat Podcast
Ep 296 | Boogey man of Afrobeats
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In this episode we discussed
Wireless Festival cancelled after Kanye West blocked from coming into the UK
Burna Boy beats up Wizkid DJ Tunez
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La la la la la Witching Bro, I can't believe they banned my guy from coming to the UK, bro. My top three performers of all time is MJ Facts Chris Brown Facts Usha Beyonce Like why do we look at these people as gods? Why is the I like we do this idol worshipping sober that nobody can tell these people yo fam you tripping but what we do know because we saw the video was someone that looked like DJ Tunes was on the floor against TomTow. Davido is beefing with Whiskey and Bonaboy. Bonaboy is beefing with Davido and Whiskey. Whiskey is beefing with Davido and Bonner Boy. You know what they call that, bro? It's a triangle, bro. It's a three-song is Bonner Boy the boogeyman of Afrobeats. Is it like the two-pack of Afrobeats and everything? No, no, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_03Then you can tell me nothing. Did you say something? Uh-uh.
SPEAKER_04You can tell me nothing.
SPEAKER_03Uh uh, you can't tell me nothing.
SPEAKER_02Bro, I can't believe they banned my guy from coming to the UK, bro.
SPEAKER_04I can't believe it, man. I believe I believe hypocrites. I believe I believe hip him hypocrites. I always believe hypocrites when they do their things.
SPEAKER_02I'm not gonna lie, I didn't see that one. Yeah, I kind of saw them canceling the show. Yeah, you get me when when the talk started coming up and everything, yeah. For people that know what we're talking about, we're talking about wireless, innit? Kanye West, right? When it was announced, remember I told you I want to get my ticket. Yeah, you get what I'm saying? So I was like, shit, like I need to get a sticker. But then something in me just said, yo, just hold back a little bit. See, because I kind of sit stared seeing some politicians talking about it, right? So I thought, you know what, let me just chill and see what happens and all that. But something in me was telling me, you know what, they probably might cancel this because the pressure was mounting too much. What I didn't see, not gonna lie, what I did not see was them saying, My man cannot even come into the country, bro. That's wild. You get what I'm saying? I was like, what?
SPEAKER_04That's proper wild.
SPEAKER_02Like, we allow all types of people into the country and everything, and and this guy cannot come in because of like, cool, whatever you said, whatever opinions you have about order. Yeah, all right, cool. I'm not gonna hold anyone to it, yeah. But we are now banning people from coming to the country based on speech.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I understand his hate speech. I get that, so I'm not trying to be insensitive, I get it. But I'm sorry, man. This guy has not, to my knowledge, he's not killed anyone. I don't think he's contributed to killing someone, whereas we have businesses and companies and people that have indirectly and directly killed we're talking mass, you know.
SPEAKER_02But they are let they're free to walk around, you know. Yeah, but yeah, but we say hate speech and everything. Yeah, all types of people have had all those hate speech. I'm just trying to even give them context, yeah. Yeah, fair enough, bro. Fam, we hear what is being said about Muslims all the time. Like, it's like, bro, it's like free reign when it comes to that.
SPEAKER_04But this is what happens as soon as he mentioned he's listening I'll be honest with you guys. Kanye was never gonna, he was never going to be banned if he had just left his speech or his freedom of speech or hate speech in the people against black people, against all creeds. As soon as he talked about the people that he talked about, yeah. I love those guys. They don't play, bro. I want to I want you to be on that level of crust. Yeah, no one talks about bro.
SPEAKER_02You can't sneeze, they'll be like, hey, why do you sneeze like that? Yeah, listen, I'm not even mad at them now. Every every group has a right to to obviously um react to whatever they need to they react to however they wish to, and and you know, that's on them. You get what I'm saying? The only thing is, like, bro, as a government, the way I look at it, it is a slippery slope. You get what I mean? Because now you do this one, everybody cheers for it. Everybody, everybody cheers for it, but one day it's gonna be your turn. Uh but then also when I also look at it, the people that actually suffers the most, it's not really Kanye West, it's not really wireless. Like, yeah, they are good. It's the guys that rely on that the small businesses, bruv.
SPEAKER_04You know what? When you talk about small businesses, I see past small businesses because the fact that you're a small business, at least you have an idea. That means you have something going, that means you'll find somewhere somehow to set up your stuff. You might not make the same amount of money you would have made at wireless. Is those guys that don't have a steady job that rely on wireless? You're like, Yeah, I'm gonna get a gig. And do you get it? Or or in the summertime summertime for the kids.
SPEAKER_02I'm talking about the young yeah, yeah, no, that's all these festivities and everything.
SPEAKER_04People making kids, you know, use that as a summer job.
SPEAKER_02Don't worry about it. Like, like the thing is when I look at ENRFI, yeah. So, our people, our um politicians do not have the foresight to say, hey, listen, because I saw an article that said that wireless brings in about 45 mil a year, yeah, based on their their festival, and yeah, the remote. So we are willing to throw away to throw away that money that we're not gonna replace. Yeah, that's supposed to come into the economy and everything and help the economy while we are keep on spending on on so many stupid shit. Yeah, you get me. We are willing to throw that away because of you know, one group, you know, they're not happy about something. Like to me, when I look at that, and and that kind of got me because I saw people saying, Oh, you know, right, why didn't they replace um or rather replace Kanye West with a UK artist, this and this and this it's not the same draw, bro? Bro, it's not the same first of all, it's not the same draw. Yeah, it's not the same first of all, and then also like the wireless people are my type of people, right? I will cut my nose to smack my face just to prove a point. Facts, you know what I mean? So if you guys are not serious, if you guys are willing to throw away the money that I'm bringing, the revenue that I'm bringing to the economy, then fuck it. Yep, you got me. Yep, but if it was me, bro, I would probably take wireless to Ireland this year.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, bro, take it to a nearby place.
SPEAKER_02You go up and just yeah, and just invest in the economy over there.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, like they say, you can't throw away the bath and the baby, something like that. But in this case, the bath, the baby, the toilet, the building, all you gotta go. Everything you man have to go. That's what it is, man. But it's a shame, man. Man, you can't tell me nothing. Because let me tell you something. There are five songs that Kanye would always perform, and I love the fact that Kanye always performs my favorite songs of his, and I'm not saying that favorite because of how unfortunately it the songs are so good, they become they became so commercial. But I listened to those songs past the commercial um commercial commerciality, is that a word? I don't know if that's a word. Commerciality, and that's not a word, okay. I just made that up. I listened to those songs past the level of the um the commercial status. I listen to it just on the fact that it's really motivating and he knows how to design sounds, of course, bro. This oh my even flashing lights just comes on. You're like, bro, classics, bro.
SPEAKER_02Classics, classics, classics classics, and I even saw that before the wireless thing, right? He wanted to do his concert art, uh Tottenham Stadium. Oh they they said no. I said, you know what? Yeah, sorry, bro. That's hilarious. You know who owns Tottenham? Let me not say no. I said, you know what? Tottenham deserves to be relegated. Legated for that. Because of that, yeah, yeah. They need to go down to championship.
SPEAKER_04But you know who owns the Tottenham, you know, the biggest shares of Tottenham, you know. Oh, your people now who's my people, your hatman, the hatman, is it? Yeah, bro. What? Oh, yeah, there you go. The guys, man. There you go, then there you go. Crazy. There you go. I mean, there you go.
SPEAKER_02Crazy, they're never gonna let that happen. It is what it is, you know. And fam, I don't know if you saw this. Chris Brown Usher.
SPEAKER_04Oh, come on. So they just announced their joint.
SPEAKER_02So that from afar RB. I love that though. Raymond and they need to come to London though. They they need to they come, bro.
SPEAKER_04I hope so. I hope so. No, no, no, don't hope. They are coming to London.
SPEAKER_02They need to come to London with that, bro.
SPEAKER_04RB, Raymond and Brown, bro. I saw that I started cracking up. Why is that? Yeah, because there've been a lot of talks on if they're obviously if they're gonna do it or not, yeah, or just basically they're like rivals, or would they ever I saw that pop up again?
SPEAKER_02Like the fans start bringing that up in there.
SPEAKER_04They're like, Oh, they never wanted to do um the verses against each other. So this is that's like, yeah, this is an informal way of doing verses. We're going to do it. Because they don't have a lot of songs together, they don't, so that's why people wanted them to do a versus. Yeah, I think they're like two songs together. They're gonna now actually have to do it, but in an informal way. We'll see what happens with that though. You know, who's gonna open up in this city, who's gonna call close in that city, who's gonna be crazy.
SPEAKER_02We'll see what happens because I kind of saw that that reminds me of when um Lil Wayne and Drake did that tour. Yeah, that was like um a versus thing type thing. You guys I've forgotten what the tour was, but it's gonna be interesting because I checked it yesterday. I was like, they don't even have a lot of songs together. How are they gonna do this? You know, but then Chris Brown announced their new album is coming out, yeah. So I think they probably might have a few songs on there.
SPEAKER_04But the truth is they don't even have to have songs together. If we both of us are going on tour, I perform our song, you perform yours. Guess what? We're gonna pack out the stadium because your fans will come. Yeah, I mean kind of cross we cross-pollinate anyway.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but I'm thinking about the transition. Like, are the both of them gonna be on stage at the same time? Or no, no, no, no, no, you do your thing, go back stage.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, they're gonna do like Kendrick did with um what's her name? Caesar. Um scissor. Yeah, you this on in this city, you would be the one to open. In that other city, I'll be the one to open. In this city, you uh just keep all keep um alternating, alternating, yeah.
SPEAKER_02That's it. Bro, we'll see what happened. I just need them to come London. I don't want the whole, oh, this is just a US store. Yeah, bro. Listen, UK, you guys need to come down here, bro, because I need to see that. Because I'm not gonna lie, I was having that conversation with my homegirl the other time. My top three performers of all time, or rather, I would say top four. Right? I have a feeling they're the same as mine, but go on. It's MJ, facts, Chris Brown, facts, usher, Beyoncé.
SPEAKER_04I'll give I'll I'll give it to I'll I'll give it to you. My top three, again, this is my top three. Are actually my top my favorite artists of all time.
SPEAKER_02Michael Jackson, no artists of performance. Oh, are we talking performance?
SPEAKER_04I'm talking about performance. Because uh, when when you talk about an artist, an artist, an artist actually, everything encapsulates your performance, your songwriting, your blah blah blah.
SPEAKER_02Yes, I mean we like to, but strictly on performance. Yeah, there are some artists that have great songs that can't perform.
SPEAKER_04Okay, if it's strictly on performance, then it's Michael Jackson for sure, Chris Brown, then it's gonna be between Kendrick or Kanye West. Because I'm sorry, man. Bro, yeah, I want you guys to know your stage. I hear you on Kanye West, like your stage design is your performance, bro. The guy is a madman. There's no one that can touch him on that. I hear you on Kyle West.
SPEAKER_02Kendrick is cold, bro. Kendrick. I think when he did Mr. Moran, the big steppers at the O2, bro. I was there cold, forget cold, forget, forget, forget. You get what I'm saying? And when I see that, bro, I can't see that finish and then go and see it.
SPEAKER_04Check back. I'm sorry, I didn't mean that. I didn't mean that. I didn't mean that, guys. Forgive me, forgive me. I didn't mean that. About them people now. Yeah, so I didn't know about them people. Yeah, bad guys. I didn't mean to say shake back. I was gonna say um say um no, sorry. Listen, bro.
SPEAKER_02Listen, hey, listen, salute to every single one of you. You already know what time it is. Is your boy Toby and your boy Banks? Come on, Banks. You know what I'm saying? So you already know this is Fresh of the Boat show, Fresh of the Boat podcast, whatever you call it. That's who we are, bruv. You get what I'm saying? So we salute you guys. Listen, if you're not subscribed to the channel, do that right now. Subscribe to the channel, watch the videos, leave a like, leave a comment, and share the videos with your friends. You know what I'm saying? Listen, it's paramount that you know we keep the engagement going and everything because it helps the video in the algorithms and everything. You know what I'm saying? And also join the community on X as well, F O T B community. You know, it's right there. You know, just jump in there, leave your comments, all that stuff, your opinions, all welcome. And also you can follow us on Instagram as well. Come on, you get what I'm saying? It's right there, right there in the description box. The links are there and everything. Do your thing. Do your thing. You get me because some of you be sliding my DMs and that and and actually you learn everything. You get me? There are there are people that I know now by their first names. Uh that watch the show. You got what I mean? I know that by their first name and everything, so they slide into my games and everything, you know, and whatever happens, they just send me the the thing like, yo, fam, what do you think about this? You get me? Or should we wait till the pod I said I say, you know what, just wait till the pod in it, you get what I'm saying? Because I'm still kind of fine-tuning my my thoughts on the whole thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You dig what I'm saying? Absolutely, but hey, so far, so good. Listen, bro. I'm not gonna dwell on this too much and all that. Yeah, Arsenal. I woke up this morning thinking, okay, is this the is this the day that Arsenal win the league and everything, bro?
SPEAKER_04I told you this guy that Arsenal's not winning the league.
SPEAKER_02You get me, so I'm happy that they lost, bruv.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, man.
SPEAKER_02Arsenal bottled it, but you get what I'm saying? I'm happy that they lost.
SPEAKER_04North London is the home of bottles, they just have bottles everywhere.
SPEAKER_02So so I guess we'll probably have to wait another week.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, man. Listen, if Man City can win all the games, because they've got two games in hand, then there will be three points behind Arsenal. Who's Arsenal playing next? It should be Man City.
SPEAKER_03Oh, it's Man City, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's gonna be a battle though. Nothing, right? That's gonna be a battle though. Did you say something?
SPEAKER_02That's gonna be a battle though. That's gonna be a battle.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Because Arsenal will play, and you know, this is the beauty of football, yeah. Sometimes Champions League or FA is different, like it's different from Premier League, bro. Big facts, you go, I mean, big facts. It's a whole different setting and everything. Then we will be surprised. Everyone will say, yo, City's gonna win that one. Arsenal will come out and just bang in just one go and just pass the ball. Listen, tomorrow, Man City are playing Chelsea, yeah.
SPEAKER_04After that, Man City are playing Arsenal. Then I just want people to understand that after that. Southampton, Everton, Brentford, Bournemouth, Arston Villa. Listen, guys, even though I'm a Manchester United fan, like you're some of you know already, but I just don't want Arsenal to win it. And I hope they don't win it. Because I hate I can't stand their fans.
SPEAKER_02I think they're gonna win it. I think they're gonna win this league. I think they're gonna win it. You get what I'm saying? Like my days of saying, yo, I wish, bro, I think yeah, I think they're gonna win it. I think they're gonna win it. Even if they don't win it next week, yeah, the week after, bro, they are about nine points ahead at the moment.
SPEAKER_04Um if my city win they get two games in hand, yeah, three points behind also.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but what I'm saying is the league is on Arsenal's hand to fumble. Oh, yeah, give my point. So even if they lose to City, yes, yeah, whoever they are playing next, yeah, they might win that game. Okay, again. I I I hear you, I hear you, I hear you. But but we have seen City lose games that we thought that they were gonna win. Absolutely. But my thing is if my city just focused on winning all their games, we'll see what happens though, wouldn't it? Bro, this is gonna be the greatest bottle, bro. This is gonna be the greatest bottle.
SPEAKER_03Humpty Dumpty sat on the wall. Humpty Dumpty had a great game.
SPEAKER_02Bro, this is gonna be the greatest bottle of all time.
SPEAKER_03At this point, we would be like, you know what, this is a cast, bro.
SPEAKER_04I'm just letting you guys know, yeah. If, and I'm using if because you know, sometimes as much as I don't like Arsenal, I love Ateta. I genuinely love Ateta. So for the sake of Ateta, maybe my um the inner I want him to win something. But if not for that, I swear Arsenal fans can never ever talk to me. This is how I'm gonna walk when I see an Arsenal fan. When he just wants to say hello, I'll say hello, hi. He's banned. See the way KanyeOS has been banned from UK. You're banned from talking football. Me and you, we just can't talk, man. Just keep it moving.
SPEAKER_02You know what I mean? Bro, bro, bro. We'll see what happens, but I'm the girl. I'm happy. I'm happy. Um, United is playing tomorrow tomorrow, so we'll see what happens with that. But yeah, come on, you get what I'm saying? I've got some money to win on that. I I place the better with a Liverpool fan on that still. Oh, yeah, you get me. I told the person that um United is gonna finish above Liverpool, but hey, we'll see what happens.
SPEAKER_04Oh no, we're playing on Monday. Sorry, we're playing Leeds on Monday. Okay, cool. We'll see what happens with that, bro.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, we should cook.
SPEAKER_04We should cook, fam.
SPEAKER_02Should we jump into this? Because I'm sure that people are that are watching, listen to us, I'll be like, bro, we don't want to hear football, bro.
SPEAKER_04No, they're not even here for what we're about to do. They're not here for what we're about to jump into, bro.
SPEAKER_02They are not here for this football.
SPEAKER_04No, no, no, they're here for football, bro.
SPEAKER_02They are here for football, bro. They are not here for this football shit, bro. They are like, yo, fam, listen. Bro, who's more important?
SPEAKER_04Who's more important? Did you choose whiskey, Bonaboe, or Manchester United? Of course, Manchester United.
SPEAKER_03Come on, that's what I'm saying. Bro, should we jump into this? Do we jump into this? Yeah, bro. All the Afro beats the people come into the room, come into the room, the rest.
SPEAKER_02If you are here for Afro beats, come into the room, hey, get me, bro. Are you ready, bruh? Because we need to introduce one in, Fabi. Get me. Yeah. This one needs to be introduced in, bro. Come on.
SPEAKER_01Hey, hey, hey, hey.
SPEAKER_00Let's go. Yeah. I'm not gonna lie. This one right back hits different, bro. This hits different, bro.
SPEAKER_02Bro, that's fab in me. Listen, I've always said this that Bona Boy, he is the gift that keeps on giving. Is he the kind of gift that is wrapped or unwrapped? Bro, unwrapped. You know what I mean? But gift not gifts, bro. Yeah. Gift and a gift, you're always gonna get it. Every six months. Not too much of my guy, burner man. You know what I mean? Every six months. Not too much of my guy, burner man. I like that for him though. I'm not gonna lie. Leave my brother Burner Boy alone. For people that don't know what we're talking about, yeah. Last week, after our recording last week. We saw online, it's not circulating. Flashing news, flashing news, breaking news, breaking news. DJ Jones, I don't know who DJ Jones is. I'm gonna paint the paint this picture for you. DJ Tunes is whiskey. DJ, no guy. DJ You get me. Yeah. So this Afrobeat beef, yeah. This Afrobeat beef, I will paint it for you. So you have Davido is beefing with whiskey and Bonaboy. Yeah. Bonner boy is beefing with Davido and Whiskey. Whiskey is beefing with Davido and Bonner Boy.
SPEAKER_03situation it's a ten situation is a situation of enemy of my enemy is my enemy no all of all the all enemy but like whoever has whoever it whoever gets touched takes last and everything yeah so that's what's going on so we saw that DJ Tunes got some Merifistmas big merry fist mass merit mass yeah big one you got saying so everybody was wondering by whom and he came out it was by Bonner boy and his crew I think it's AI though I don't believe it and which I said that to you and you told me yo fam I think that's AI I said alright cool we'll see it now different people started coming out talking about what happened now everybody has their own version of what happened but what we do know is DJ tunes was in um DJ Obi's house you go I mean so obs house is where the hot spot yeah like people go to in Lagos and everything you know artists they debut their new songs on there you know and different DJs come up different artists come up and everything and do their thing play music and all that and people are vibing so he was doing it Bonaboy and his gang walked in so everybody's obviously backstage vibing this year right now different accounts are saying that DJ tunes walked up to Bonaboy and tried to speak to him or wherever the case is some other people are saying that Bonaboy's guys um walked up to DJ tunes some people are saying that they wanted to walk past DJ tunes there are so many accounts there but what we do know because we saw the video was someone that looked like DJ tunes was on the floor against Tomta.
SPEAKER_02You go I mean and also what we do know is it was DJ tunes one versus 10 that's the narrative out there. Okay so it wasn't him and Bona even though the accounts are saying he gave Bonaboy a two piece he gave a boy a two piece and then bona boy's guys jump to my man which if that is the case yeah I've got to salute my man clean bro if that's the case I gotta salute my man because how can tem men jump to a man yeah try and kick him up and everything and dude he came out the next day and nothing happened to his face yeah my man looks fresh and everything so hey hence why I think it's AI artificial intelligence you get me but some other videos came out of after the whole thing Bonaboy was trying to get into his car and the wife beater that he was putting on order was kind of torn a little bit like you can actually see it you get what I mean that's what people are saying.
SPEAKER_04Oh and then you could also see DJ tunes coming out and my man looked fresh as well so that's the reason why I gave him a clap right because if if 10 men jumped one man and he still looked fresh like that bro listen that's not L bro scene scene scene scene scene scene that's not L so yeah but then conversations coming out whether this is good for the culture think pieces all that but what we do know is I'm just hearing this for the first time apparently there is something called the DJ Association of Nigeria whatever you call that shit right they came out to release a statement that nobody should play Bonaboy songs for the foreseeable future bro I fell out of my seat I almost laughed myself to death I said what what the fuck is this what the fuck is this oh my gosh so I'm just painting the summary of what happened so the next day DJ tunes woke up jumped on life and everything said he's out of the shit bona boy woke up the next day with his towel playing um obeafia main bank you got me trolling my man and everything you get me so now whisky everyone was waiting to see what he was gonna say whisky himself jumped on X like he always does no he didn't jump on X he picked up the most important weapon what is that then his phone there you go and he used the most important tool his fingers there you go and start tweeting away and he did the damage and start tweeting away ah my trust my guy now trusting away trust my guy tweet the fingers he gets on the X fingers bro what do you think about the whole melee bro it's what do you think about a whole thing guys I'll be honest with you that I'll rather you guys pay me to hear my opinion on this I'll be honest with you at this point now the way these guys are behaving they're behaving like the shoe sizes because I guarantee Burner boy is like a size 10 let's see whiskey is maybe size six I'm sorry size seven eight yeah they're all acting in their shoe sizes bro they're not acting like grown men that's the truth like I said only in this genre are we gonna allow because guess what the genre is in a country that is not well governed so you can get away with stuff hence why a lot of artists love being in Nigeria because I promise you guys it makes them feel like God bro that's a haven for the most heinous act that you can make on ruly behavior and get away with it you can drive in on a one way road you can you can speed on a pedestrian crossing you can do anything wave sirens bro you can do anything like the the policemen that meant to look after you and you know you're paying these guys by the way technically via the tax they would rather look after a celebrity yeah we have people in the UK that are born in the UK that have nothing to do with um Nigeria or whatever they only go there for dirty December on their songs they're rapping oh I can't wait to go to Lagos so I can get the policeman posted next thing okay because we are literally bottom barrel of the joke bro like it's just ridiculous so in a normal world this happened someone is getting arrested one two right now we'll be seeing um pictures of their arrest and people are you know placing bond that's what it will be we'll be like hearing things like what happened to what's his name offset and little TJ bro little TJ went you know obviously landed himself in jail but he posted bond $500 now that's what we should be seeing you can't just punch up another man but this is what's funny you punch up another man and and the next day they're going on live to tell the story bruv bro that's what I expect from a kid in year seven year seven might be the equivalent in Nigeria to for JSS one these guys are in their 30s bruv bro these guys are grown men with beard grown men with beards bro you're telling me that happened to you you didn't think let me monetize this to maybe I'm just not gonna entertain this nonsense I'm focused on something much way better you think if I was DJ choose I won't have I won't be on Patreon you've got to pay a whole lot of money to hear me talk about this stuff I'm putting on a $1000 tier if you want to hear it go on it bro I promise you but these guys are so it's so drunk with clout and attention that they think it's okay man is there dancing on live and no disrespect to DJ tunes you already know Obafia I really like DJ tunes.
SPEAKER_02Everyone knows that I like him I like his personality even for DJ but the truth is to an extent I expected that from DJ tunes bro what I don't expect is from a we consider him global superstar online in a towel is it how he was wearing and he was dancing man is telling you confirming that he's just he's power of an assault bro fam didn't you see the video of when he sat down with Charlie Poppy I'm just about to go there man confirmed I just want you to know how useless the country and the people are he confirmed that yes I was part of an assault plus one then he thought oh maybe they don't believe me let me double down and he went on live shout to Charlie Poppy because Shali Poppy knows in context to Wiscid and all of these guys he's still upcoming he's not an upcoming artist but in context to them you know when we talk about status he brought said I'm not gonna say anything I don't have the same fan bases as you law so I'm there's no reason for me to get involved in this that's why my man sat there smoking his weed because he said bro do you know embarrassing it took me a while to figure Burner boy is like considered guy is selling out stadiums he's sitting next to an artist that he's not next to his level in that sense do you know what I mean and he's telling you that's what and he's older than the artist that's what I would expect bro it's meant to be Burner Boy in Charlie Poppy's position and Charlie Poppy next to him going bro what's up tell me about that stuff and Bernaboy is just just pretending like what you talk about it see that it's it's a whole situation yeah before I even lay into where I want to lay yeah see that situation when I was watching that yeah it it kind of confirmed confirmed something to me that I've always known anyways right we don't have nobody to hold any of these people accountable when Bonaboy was telling that story yeah cool whatever if you want to tell that story but when he brought up whiskey's mom bro I don't even want to touch on that bro it's just mad bro when he brought up whiskey's mom I was like this I was like this guy is a whole piece of shit hey hey hey no seriously not too much of my guy Bernard no no no no bro this guy is a whole yeah piece of shit like you can actually and you know how I feel about Burner like his music and everything of course I fuck with dude heavy yeah but recently he's rubbing me the wrong way and I'm looking at this guy as a piece of shit like a worthless piece of shit you can say whatever you want to say and not bring up this guy's mother yeah you go I mean bro listen to what this guy said bro I swear whiskey mama yeah no as I say I swear on my mother if I'm lying if I'm lying may God take my own mama go wear whiskey mama day bro that's crazy and when I look at that and I look at Shali Puppy it confirms bro this idol worshipping that we do in our culture yeah will be the downfall of us because if it was me I don't care if the person is older than me or whatever yeah I would respectfully say nah nah nah bro don't say that bro come on bro like like that's the guy's mother his mother's dead and everything yeah but Shali Poppy just the yeah man in my business and everything like why do we look at these people as gods why is the I like we do this idol worshipping so but that nobody can tell these people yo fam you tripping yeah man you can say whatever you want to say okay talk about how much you slap the dude and everything whatever you want to say but leave the guy's dead mother alone the mother has nothing to do with it I'm saying and when I see that it just confirmed to me everything that I have always said that Bonaboy is a piece of shit I'm I'm sorry the way he says it is crazy he's a piece of shit and and I'm disappointed that his mother who is alive yeah yeah cannot either release a statement and be like yo whatever you get me like you're talking about yeah whatever the problem is yeah bro you don't have to bring up the guy's dead mother bro yeah this is the problem whatever you guys got going on I don't think it was it is that serious facts but this whole thing dude has to prove that he's a fucking gangster and everything lifestyle though let me not go back when I look at Bernaboy and when you look at his history yeah yeah I'm just gonna pull you up real quick yeah when you look at his history people forget he had an assault case in the UK early on in his career yeah yeah yeah yeah then in 2022 the club shooting the alleged one that happened in Lagos did you hear about that that it came out that oh like somebody got shot whatever because he he was trying to move to a married woman or something like that yeah and then the news was that he left Nigeria and all that so the whole thing got settled yeah yeah and if you remember in 2020 this was the situation in Ghana allegedly it was between him and Davido Yeah yeah and then now between him and DJ tunes yeah now let's forget about the whole stage thing of him kicking fans or you know all them sort of things right yeah when I look at Bonner boy yeah I ask myself is Bonner boy you forgot one key thing though what's that a lot of people forget that the biggest one is Mr 2K you know what I'm talking about you're watching you know Mr.
SPEAKER_042K where you know the happenings in the hotel where he punched up my man and all of that stuff that's the biggest ever that was where everyone turned not everyone most people in the industry just turned their backs and that's where the whole thing about oh these guys don't like me da da da da that all played into it yeah so that Mr.
SPEAKER_022k one was the biggest career and whatever happened in South Africa as well which is the reason why he can't he cannot go to South Africa. Yeah you get what I'm saying so when I look at this guy I'm asking myself is Bonaboy the boogeyman of Afrobeats is it like the two pack of Afrobeats and everything yeah but then I also look at I say bro we also know how two pack story ended yeah you get what I'm saying because I promise you there's a reason why he does things like this in Nigeria or in Africa yeah because I mean because if this was in the States or in the UK nothing's happening the place would have been aired out brother you go I mean people know the story of what happened when Tupac assaulted Baby Lane yeah everything ended that night yeah you go I mean if Bonaboy does things like this in America there's a reason why he doesn't do it outside of Nigeria because if he does it outside of Nigeria somebody will turn his TV off yeah bro would you do something in a very in a lawful place no you wouldn't fam I'm not even talking about the law you stomped somebody out bro we're talking about America yeah yeah no you stomp someone out in the club the person goes out yeah because Bonaboy was saying oh listen you know I touched him and everything and then I was still in the club dancing and everything yeah you stomp someone out the person goes out you best believe that the person is coming out and everything everyone is getting faulted bro the person would will turn off your TV facts if you get what I mean yeah of course you get what I mean the person will crash out 100% and that's to tell you that we have this oppressive mentality yeah where we think that we can do shit and get away with it.
SPEAKER_04That's why they go to Nigeria to chill and these guys are happy uh he's back home back home for what he's not doing anything brother just literally all they do is go club stay there till six they've got the policemen that are meant to be guarding and looking after a community they've got them in there with their guns around them in the club they've got your policemen holding stuff for them you know and they've got their other bodyguards and stuff like that so they'll smoke drink up until 5 a.m sometimes 7 a.m then go home eat sleep wake up do the same thing the next day drive round again I repeat on a one way road do the madness you know punch up someone slap someone you know the convoy they move like they are they they are bigger than the government that's the truth because you guys have put them on this pedestal you know and it's just a massive shame man like I said I'm not con I would never condone violence but I would understand there's no disrespect if a Ruger um if a Benson do you get it I can be like you know what yeah this is someone that is the so-called face of Afrobeats by the way getting involved in this and this has happened within a year the whole situation with the people um the fans in America and him coming online saying I don't care my fans um what's it called if you guys are gonna pay pay whatever however he said it it's just a shame bro I'm not gonna lie I expect certain things from from from top tier you know artists like even in football look a messy and ronaldo will never get involved in any of this you never catch them you barely see them involved in something never you know again I don't condone violence but stuff like that if Bonner boy really really was angry stuff like that just see up DJ tunes there fake the handshake fake it yeah go home then tell your guys I beg you guys go back and knock that guy out at least bona boy is not there so you know I mean people be like oh yeah we know you know there's like a plausible deniability but this one he's tying towel and he's doing a bafia day for ground my thing is alright cool man this is my thing is alright cool you touch this guy now right the next time your man it might not be you but let's say your man or spaceship your DJ is out somewhere all by himself what's gonna happen yeah they don't think about it so this whole time all these years it's always been Twitter talk tweet a talk twitter talk yeah right now you are you have escalated it touched my man tomorrow your sister might be out yeah you go I mean tomorrow your cousin might be out facts your DJ might be out what do you think is gonna happen but the thing is those guys will always stay guarded that's the thing do you know what I'm saying bro and ever anyone can be touched I know that but everyone can be I'm saying in a case like this like let's say for instance like his sisters would never be in a in a in a situation or in a place where there's an easy access do you get I mean I'm just giving a real I'm giving a realistic um what's it called uh perspective to it with the spaceship guy yeah that's very plausible because he's a DJ it has to be out i guess I guess my point is you are putting your people ripple effects you got me you're putting your people in situations that nobody wanna be in fact because because all right you touched me an order cool I take this L tomorrow I see one of your people and now with my crew what do you think is gonna happen then yeah you get my point and to me like it just goes down this way and sometimes you just think this money and ego and this fame that our culture is getting and everything is it a cost or a blessing like why is it why is it that you see all these people fucking up what we have and all that and Omale said the best right because I know we made jokes and all that kind of shit right but some of the shit that he said is real.
SPEAKER_02Yeah this was what Omale said in one of his interviews to fade to fade up yeah yeah yeah like this this was what he said and which which comes down to the whole Charlie Poppy thing and everything yeah because nobody tells these people the truth when they are doing shit like this right let me just pull it up real quick so he was talking about how separated the culture is now he said the whole Nigerian Afrobean scene is very separated if you're with Davido you're on one side if you're with Whiskey you are on the other side the same thing applies to Bonaboy right so the the the three top artists that are meant to be leading are separated are just very useless so Charlie Poppy is sat down with Bonaboy Bonner boy is telling what happened or whatever the case is right but Charlie Poppy cannot objective cannot give his objective assessment and be like yo bro you get I mean because once you say it now you're you now you're now part um part of the whole beef you got I mean absolutely the same thing happens on one side so now everyone have chosen the side or everybody will keep quiet yeah so that you can be in everybody's grace. Yeah yeah you got I mean or people want to have that conversation but no one is really saying the real thing everyone say oh you know the fans boom boom boom boom boom no these guys are acting like kids yeah they are acting like they're shoe sizes bro And that is the problem. Like the culture is so separated now.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, the fans add to it, of course. The the excitement on social media on X, I would say, is just one of those things where people just it's a shame. People feel like they need to be you know part of a they they need to belong to a fact. Do you know what I mean? You don't need to belong to anything, you know. You can objectively have an opinion. You're grown. Well, I know some of them are kids, but you can still, as a grown adult, you should know that okay, cool. This stuff's stuff like this is not right. It's just boring, bro. Again, when things are happening at a low level, no one really cares. But how on earth is the same thing we've been saying that how can the president of a country be tweeting? Do you get it? Because it's not something you expect from someone that's meant to be seen as a leader. Again, I don't think these guys are leaders, they don't lead anything. No at all. You know, we have three major, major, I'm talking three major artists in that country in in in terms of um um we're talking from the commercial side, and also we're talking about longevity um longev longevity, you know. Longevity, what am I saying? What the heck is going on? Longevity, right? And none of them have produced any artists that will kind of carry the mantle. Did you get it? So on the lights, let's say in likes of Olame Day, I've done something. Yeah, so obviously if Olame Day say I'm today, I'm not making music. There's something that we can go, oh yeah, this was well, oh shout out to Olame Day for this, man. You've got three guys that have been there for over 15 years, or some just a bit, less than 15. What are their legacy? They have zero legacy outside the fact that the music they just make good music, good music, notoriety, tours. There's nothing else. Instead, their legacy is gonna be. Remember what that year when those grown men were acting like kids, fighting, tweeting. Bruh, do you know how sad this stuff is? All they have is longevity, that's all they have to their names, and the obvious thing, music. That is it. Finish your our so-called again in quotes global because global is not just any word that people should throw around. Our global star is in his towel dancing, confirming oh, yeah, I talked to my man out. You get me? He's on the floor. Then literally went ahead to double down on live. Something that, bro, again, I don't condone this, but this is something you do behind the scenes. No camera should be on when I'm talking about stuff like that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's crazy, bro.
SPEAKER_04That dancing and towel, that's you, if by most, you must act like a child. Do that to your friend, personal friend, on FaceTime where there's no one involved. Why are we bringing the world into foolishness? Now, the younger kids that are like literally wanking and sucking off to these guy artists because they don't have the mind of their own, gonna think this is the way to do it, guys.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, it's sad. It's really sad. It's really sad. You can say, even though it's funny, I'm not gonna lie, it's funny. I looked at it, I laughed and everything because it is so different from you. Remember when Whiskey that Davido saw each other in London at the restaurant and everything? All that stuff, cool. We came here, we made jokes about it, cool, wherever they came. Yeah, because you can't do that nonsense. Yeah, all this stuff is funny and all that, but then you just look at it and you just realize, bro, that's a reason why you lot always run to Nigeria and be on your bullshit. But when you come over here, you are you are on your best behavior, like, but uh boy. We saw what happened on stage and all that, and we saw the pushback you got, you quickly started giving back to to charity in the community in the community. I think it was California or something, yeah. You you your your I don't even know what what what word to use on this guy now, bro. You're not even from there. You get me, but you have to do charity over there just to appease them and everything, yeah. Or you treat your own people in Nigeria like shit.
SPEAKER_04Oh, they'll tell you because he's been giving very dark man money to build schools, so it makes up forever. They're no, they say it makes up for it, wherever.
SPEAKER_02You get what I'm saying, and lost lost souls, man. Until we start holding these people accountable for their behavior, yeah, things are not gonna change, and then now we're looking at the streamers now.
SPEAKER_04The streamers are jumping on the bandwagon now, picking sides, of course, because they know that's the way they know they they're doing that on purpose because they need to tap into the fan bases of this artist. So all these streamers now are aligning themselves with an artist that would generate them fans. For instance, aka Mr. Um, what's his name? Uh Kata Fe. You can see in our okay he's with Davido. So, like he said, anytime he plays David Do's music, he gets a lot of subs, blah blah blah blah blah. So he we now know what fence he's on, we know where he's leaning to, we know who he's leaning on, literally, right? And you go so-and-so of all the streamers, they have their favorites and whatever it is, and it's just sad because these people know that they can't do it on their own, they have to somehow tap into someone else's stuff, and that's the reason why I like Shanks.
SPEAKER_02You got what I mean, because you know, you can tell that he has a good relationship with DJ tunes, yeah. You know, we're sitting with Whiskey, we've seen with um, I believe Remmer. I um we've also seen it with Banaboy, you got what I'm saying, and the way he kind of you know played his whole thing, not picking sides and everything, and people will say, Yeah, okay, cool, but why are you praising him? But then you you just criticize um Charlie Poppy because Charlie Poppy was in the room, right? I'm okay with Charlie Puppy keeping quiet, but you know, but once my man brought up the guy's mother, and it's not holding him accountable, you know what I mean? Whether it's my boy or anybody like, nah, bro, come on, bro. That's his mother in it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. Like, to me, that's where I kind of hold him accountable and everything. But Shanks was like, hey, listen, you know, he didn't want to get involved. But Kate Fe, I know in the short run, yeah, in the short run, yes, you know, whenever you mention Davido's name, oh, everything is going great and everything, but it's not gonna happen forever because now what's gonna happen is you've put yourself in a box, yeah. Whenever you have an opinion that is not favorable to Davido or his group, that lifeline is gone. Oh, yeah, absolutely. So some of the streamers they just need to know what they're doing now. I'm watching them. There's a new industry popping up, all that Skatefe, Pela, Shanks, all them boys, they are doing well for themselves and everything. But I just wish I keep on saying they don't need to go the route of the artists.
SPEAKER_04No, because that's that's all that works in Ninja, bro. They don't need to do that. It happens with politics, it's that's how Niger is built. Nigeria is built on you have to be and belong to a um a sector, you have to belong to a um a group, you know, everything has to be away. That's the same reason why we have um tribalism, we have yeah, both ethnicity and ethnical issues, politics, you belong to this, you know. Um, what do you call it? Um, you A B A P C P D bro, these guys have just that's all they know, you know. It's been it's a shame. That's what it is there. They've they've been brainwashed to think you have to belong to something to be someone. You can't do it. You you can do it on your own, but you've got to join and you have to be part of a group, yeah? Because if you're not part of a group, then yeah, it's not kind of the same, right? So even though that's why Bernard Boy is in a position where you can see that he's like the guy rebelling against it, but at the end of the day, he's doing exactly what these guys have been doing for years. The same doing the same thing, but if you tell him you're doing the same thing, he's gonna argue against it. No, I'm not, but he's doing the same thing.
SPEAKER_02They should do the same thing.
SPEAKER_04You can't sing about a government and act the same way the government are acting. You can't say they're all the same, like whiskey coming online. Instead of, in my opinion, if I was wiz, I would not even tweet that. And I know he had to because in his mind he's thinking. That's his boy, isn't it? No, if I don't, people be like, whoa, they touched your boy, touch your boy, don't say anything. And this is the problem with the average Nigerian man, they don't know that actually you can do stuff behind closed doors and say, guys, let's come together and plan this properly. I won't tweet, I won't do nothing. We're gonna show these guys what's up, yeah, cool, and then we'll move on from it. But because now I keep telling people that these of your artists they go online, they read stuff, and that's the problem. Now, ways in his head, he has to tweet something about that because if he doesn't, he feels like his fans will tell you. And brother, let's be real. Most of these guys cannot even fight. No, no. I'm being honest, you they can't fight. The average Nigerian don't have fight, can't fight. That's why that's why the government and the people are like how they are because they don't know how to fight. These guys will say, Oh, Nigerians are wait, again, I repeat, Nigerians are hustlers, yeah, but we don't know how to work. Well, hustle, we can hustle anything, but you see that work, that work ethic, we don't have it. Why? Because to work means you are holding everyone accountable, bro. Every single person is being held accountable. Someone comes online and they shake that bomb or you don't like how it wiggles, you're like, no, no, no, no, get that out of here. No, uh, let's leave them, you know. No, but get that out of here. We're not doing that. Do you know what I'm saying? Bro, there's a lot of work to be done, and on top of it, those three guys that are meant to represent you lot, self-supporting, bro. They are the second most important, you know, people in Nigeria, in terms of like, we know when people look up to stuff and things or people, what they need for distractions. You know, some people be like, Oh, my pastor, daddy, and you know they call their pastors daddy. That's a bit weird, but anyway, they do that a lot. Yo, Papa, we're gonna see Papa, you know, okay, cool. To some people, this is their God, kind of your burners, your whiskey, they're giving though. And I can't understand how, in a genre, you want an investor to genuinely invest, knowing fully that you have no structure, then on top of it, your most prominent artists are moving very risky because God forbid, would you happily invest into an industry where the top three artists, first of all, don't have anyone that's coming behind them, like directly that they've done something for that like yo, this is the guy next up, it's come from me, kinda. I know I've you know he's like a prodigy, I've helped him. That's two, and three, how on earth would you invest in something that the people don't even take seriously? So there's no grounds of even empowering your so-called fans. You know, there's a way you empower your fans where everything you do, they're involved in it. And the music, the arts, like we talked about a couple of weeks ago, the concerts, and all these things, you're like, Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is a place I can invest in. Instead, they know that these guys just want to make music, go to the UK and go around restaurants and say they're touring. There's nothing on ground. The most exciting news for these guys, it's not the music, it's not the album, it's nothing else apart from the fighting, the drama. So, you I'm asking again, you're an investor. Would you take your money and go there? Or would you rather go to South Africa?
SPEAKER_02Fab, go to I'm a piano, I'm a piano is rising right now, K-pop, all that stuff. Like rising and everything, and that's the reason why we are where we are, because we are not moving like a force. Everything is divided. You get what I'm saying? Everything is divided, and once you support this person, now you can't support this other person because this camp's not gonna let you, you can support this other person. So everybody's trying to walk around eggshells and everything. Nobody's telling each other the truth, nobody's holding each other accountable and everything, and that's the reason why we are in the state that we are in. Yeah, there's so much distractions, you know, it's just dramas, and I'm so disappointed because it is the guys that are moving like bitches. Oh, you know, I mean, absolutely, the ladies, you know, you barely hear shit from them. Whenever you hear their name, it's music, it's only music. And everyone is doing great and everything, but as the guys is always dramas after the other, and when that happened, obviously, Davido and his crew were were happy, which is the reason why I said the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Everyone is happy and everything. And what's gonna happen is the next person, another time, somebody's gonna catch an L. And then another time, someone someone else is gonna catch an L. Someone said, I mean, and then you know what's gonna happen? One day somebody's gonna get shot. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04But someone said, It's funny how Wiz only gumbo dee, as they said in the tweets, like they only kind of became friends with Bernard just to spite David O. And now, guess what? They're now no more friends. So David is just sitting there going, See, see, see what I'm saying? But what's more even more upsetting for me the most that this whole week, because I'll be honest, guys, my industry, which is football, is the best place to be. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, there's money to be made and all blah blah blah blah blah, no stress, no one is beating you on the floor, you're doing this. All of that happens with just the fans. That's it. I'd rather go online again. I don't condone violence, I'm just giving you what I rather see, and I'll still con I'll still you know condemn it. Fans fighting each other, say we had a video. Yeah, that's fine. Artists not involved, right? I've I'm thinking to myself, in America, a lot of these legacy acts would come together, bro. They don't like each other, they'll go on tour. Like we said, uh, Mr. Raymond, Usher, and Chris Brown are going on tour, right? You can you see that ever happening between the three?
SPEAKER_02Don't you don't need to think too much. No, I mean, I'm not gonna say never, you know, because I don't believe it never say never, but but for now, no.
SPEAKER_04With an average Nigerian man, Nigeria, I don't know, bro. They're not going, bro. The average Nigerian man has an ego, pride. Now, when I say if we all have egos, but is it small or big? I don't want to be like my lady just saying ego. The average man has a big ego, he needs what to inflate that ego and to make even bigger, money, fame, and all that stuff. Bro, these guys is for life, you know. You see, we'll see what happens, it's just a shame, though.
SPEAKER_02It's a shame though, it's a shame, you know. But hey, you know, bro, it's all good, man. It's all good, it's all good, you know. I'm just sort of disappointed. I saw the whole thing and all that. I was just disappointed in the whole thing, you know. But we'll see what happened, bro. Fam. How to transition from that to this one?
SPEAKER_04It's simple now. Yeah, it's simple. One is on the floor, one is on Twitter as usual, you know.
SPEAKER_02And and yeah, it's bro. Before we get away from here, what is going on between um Odomodu Black and Black Bones, bruv?
SPEAKER_04Oh, nothing much, just Odumodu being Odumodu. OD. What happened? So basically, cut a long story short, Chocolate City and Black Bones did not pay the producer of ACL. So the this tune that Black Bones made right to Odomodu Black. Yeah, to Odomodu Black. The beat wasn't outrightly bought by Chocolate City, so so they didn't acquire the right of it. Clearly, they only just licensed it. So that means it's open for anyone to buy, right? Do you know what I'm saying? So now Odomodu apparently bought the beats, so he got the news of that and took down the song, I think, on Spotify or somewhere, wherever it is. And um, yeah, that's been the problem. And everyone is saying, why would you take down the song after buying the beat? Why would you take it down? Why don't you just like you've taken down the beat, but instead of why don't you just take that beat and make and drop a diss song on that beat? Why don't you use the beat to drop your own this music this song?
SPEAKER_03Hello when I do that, what why the fuck would I do that?
SPEAKER_04No, but I I think they have a point, but I get what I love petty bro.
SPEAKER_02I I'm getting I'm rather writing that song than just taking it down just because you can, you know. Just because that's some 50 cent shit.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, that's 50 cents.
SPEAKER_02Like, yo, it's not a man that's been studying 50, bro. That's kind of shit that 50 cent would do, bro. Yeah, that's 50 cents. Just because we could just take it down, yeah. That's crazy. I mean, but that's to tell you these guys clearly didn't do their homework properly, bruv. How can you? You should have just acquired the well, I wouldn't, I don't know the reason why they didn't do that, everything. But what do you think was gonna happen? Yeah, that's a massive oversight from a big label, though. And and that was a huge too. Yeah, that's a big oversight. I don't know how they let that happen, but I'm not gonna lie to you, bro. I'm not gonna lie to you. If I was Udmodo Black, I wouldn't take it down as long as I've got the rights to the beats and everything, or the song, whatever it is, right? Bro, I'm just gonna leave leave it up and everything, and just make money off it. Yeah, because apparently he bought the beat, he owns the beat, something like that. You gotta mean I'll make money off it. So yeah, that's some that's some crazy shit. Listen, shout out to Udmodule Black still, yeah.
SPEAKER_04It's it's quite it's weird, and obviously, lately, especially today, the moody black has been crashing out on people on Twitter. Mitch is weird, it's not weird, is it? But he's always been like that, though. He's been like that, but it's like on a it's like on a caffeine level. He's on his yeah, it's just high or something. It's weird because it just adds to the disruption and to the chaos the so-called genre is. People are like, oh, but the music is no, you guys keep forgetting that there's something called byproduct. If your genre is such a mess, the byproduct is meant to be the music because genre is the umbrella, it's where the entertainment, the this, the that. Bro, we have actors, Nollywood actors fighting, we have artists fighting, bro. There's no unity, the country is a mess, the government don't know what they're doing, the fans are confused, bro.
SPEAKER_02Bro, listen, I think at this point in time, I think at this moment in time, right? It's flipped us um upside down now. Yeah, it is drama at the top, and then maybe music. Yeah, of course. You get what I mean? Maybe music. I just think it's chaos right now, all over the place, and that's because, in my opinion, the seniors that's supposed to hold everyone accountable, nobody's holding nobody accountable, yeah. Because you get what I mean, and that's just the thing, there's no structure in this, so everybody is doing their own shit. Yeah, you get me. Oh, the module has always been has always been a crash out from the jump. If you follow his shit, go on his head. My man has always been a crash out, yeah. You know what I'm saying? But then why wouldn't he? Because when he came to the industry, the industry is full of crash outs.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, so he thought might as well just it's funny. OD, he overdosed on his own, and his name is O D. O D, yeah, bro.
SPEAKER_02The only person that I love, I love the way he moves, yeah, is Ashake. Oh, yeah, Ashake doesn't know. Remember, just minds his business. Times, she just minds her business. Don't want no stress. You get me. Fireboy, no stress, fireboy just minds his business, you know. Um, whiskey used to be like that. Remember, Rema minds his business as well. Remember, too, minds his business and everything. Whiskey used to be a crash out back in the day, but then he went through a period where he he kind of stepped back a little bit. People don't know who whiskey was, but times, Linda KG days.
SPEAKER_04What my mom was a crash out too. As they say, the guy who get good mouth. That guy would cut he would tweet. But now he obviously is superstar. This is what I'm saying. When he realized, uh oh, I've attained a new level of celebrity. Okay, I'm gonna stay indoors. But now that he's realizing this era, the more visibility you get, the more clout, the more attention, then the more whatever, whatever. Like I said, guys.
SPEAKER_02But then also, but then but then also, do you think it's because just having an objective conversation just before we leave? Yeah, do you think that Whisky feels like he he has to be this guy, this crash out guy, and everything on X because the music is not doing what the music is meant to do? Um, I don't think so. Because the reason why I asked that is at the height of essence, yeah, he was incognito. You barely heard from him. You get what I mean. But but people will say, is it because the stock is not what the stock used to be? Now you gotta replace the stock, which is the music, with the drama.
SPEAKER_04Your drama, but let's be let's be real. I don't I don't believe so. Because if you notice, every time not every time, most times when Wiz is replying, he's always replying to something and someone. He's not the one starting anything.
SPEAKER_02But this is not the first time that the people have been poking, though. Like the last couple years, during the era of essence and everything, which is like his highest and everything. Yeah, some people we are poking, but he barely says shit. Yeah, because at that time I've got more important things to do, which is which is the reason why I'm saying but you're saying is it the music?
SPEAKER_04Music is the same, bro. He just dropped an amazing EP with Ashake.
SPEAKER_02That's a that's a joke. That's true. Yeah, I'm not talking about the quality of the music, yeah. I'm just think I'm just talking about um um what am I saying? You mean the peak of his the peak, yeah. You go, I mean, some people will say because he's no longer there, right, right, he feels like he has to jump in the ring again, calm down and be relatable, kind of, and kind of do do this whole shit that people are doing on this drama shit, yeah, right. Is it because he's no longer there? No, because when he was there, yeah, bro. Say whatever you you're not gonna hear pimp from him.
SPEAKER_04I know, but you're forgetting that, okay. That happened that period when. He was like the so-called essence period, people are talking about. So I've I've got one of the biggest songs in the world. I don't want to use the word world, but in the music space, and I don't because there's some parts in the country in the world that don't know what the heck essence or whisk it is, right? Let's just say at that time in the music space, it's one of the biggest songs, right? I'm like I'm really occupied with time. My time is really occupied with so much stuff going on. The song, I've got interviews here, I've got appearances here, blah blah blah blah blah, right? Cool. I mean now, and at that period, I had probably someone keeping me grounded, which was his mom. Now he is in a situation where his mom is not around. Which is, I think, was the biggest level of guy. It's the same thing with Kanye West. Kanye wasn't spazzing when his mom was alive, you know. He would spazz once once in a while sporadically, but it'll keep him in check. Right? Now his mom is, if you know it's now that his mom is gone, Wiz is very now, very, very more vocal in terms of what he would want to say on Twitter. But I repeat, he's always replying to what someone has said or done or to an event, to a situation. He's never coming online to just start writing random stuff and poking someone, to my own knowledge, anyway. Right now, and that's the difference because people are saying the music, the music is there, but now, like I said, bro, there's no one keeping him grounded. Maybe before he would say something, and his sisters might tell mom and mom's momsy will call him about bro, what are you doing? Yeah, so it's out. Cool. Mums is not there. Yeah, so those sisters will tell him it's like, whatever, man, because I'm the breadwinner. These guys have the breadwinner syndrome, yeah. They just move around mad because oh yeah, I make the money, so you don't know what can tell me nothing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can you say it? Where didn't I get my money, right? You know what I mean? You can't tell me nothing, and that's how Bernard's been moving, yeah, which is a shame because his mom has been amazing for his trajectory, is gross. And I just didn't again, yes, you're right, guys. You can't tell a man how to respond when they've been disrespected, but I promise you, no disrespect is this bad that it will make you jeopardize your reputation, bro. Like, I'm not gonna lie, the only time I can easily crash out in public and record me, it seems a life a life has been lost, bro.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, shit, man. Yeah, yeah, bro. Listen, it's been a good one. Yo, I mean it's been a good one. Yeah, the whole fight thing with like the big shit that happened and all that. Yeah, you know, but hey, I just hope everyone sort their stuff out, or rather sort yourself out. Yeah, you get what I mean? Bro, listen, should we call you a day, yeah? Yeah, let's call it a day, man. It's been a good conversation and everything. And I hope you guys out there enjoyed it. Yeah, leave your comments you know, in the comment section. Make sure you do. Yeah, clip these videos, share what I mean, share it, post it on all social medias and everything. You get what I mean? And also subscribe to the channel, yeah. And also follow us on Instagram and all that, yeah, yeah. And follow the community as well. I want to X, FOTB community. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_05I walk hard, I brought up my neck, work hard, just to chill, I live a life that's too free. Every time I call up my temperature, I'm glad you wanna die, yeah. You know I tried to fucking get a hold of my head. I live a life too free, yeah. I don't know if I need it up, but I know I'ma take it up. Check it out, I feel a little bit. I don't see if I can alone. So I know if it's real enough. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.