Ep 297 | This Got Messy

In this episode we discussed

Usher x Chris Brown Ticket Prices OUTRAGE

Michael Jackson Movie Review

Is Burna Boy Arrogant or Misunderstood?

Dark Side of Media Exposed – Did Kiss Extra Deliberately Remove Davido from Omah Lay’s Idol List?

Omah Lay & His Manager Rumours – What’s Really Going On Behind the Scenes?

Fat Joe BLASTS BNXN Over Buju Banton's name – BNXN Fires Back!

Many More topics

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SPEAKER_03 0:03

Bro, what's up, man? I am just bro. I am just looking at this Usher and Chris Brown tickets, bro.

SPEAKER_02 0:16

Small money for people like you, man. Hey, fam.

SPEAKER_03 0:25

$500. Yep. For some of the tickets and everything. Come on, stop pretending, man. For you, that's like nothing, man. Bro, that's nothing. I don't know what you're talking about with that. That's nothing to you, bro.

SPEAKER_02 0:35

It's like you go in chicken and chip shop still.

SPEAKER_03 0:37

Fam, that is rent money, bro. Bruh, it's nothing, man. Bro, that is a guy like that.

SPEAKER_04 0:42

It's people like you, bruh. It's people like you, bruv. Tell them, bruv. Tell them. It is people like you, bro.

SPEAKER_02 0:51

But my guy like Tobes. Oh man, you see my guy Tobes, yeah? He's not here at the moment. See if my guy Tobes come here. Do you want me to spill your beans, bruv? First of all, there's no beans to spill. My guy Tobes.

SPEAKER_03 1:39

Listen. If I end up here and the chief cut me the benefit of the wall.

SPEAKER_02 1:48

Let it happen. All I'll just do is I'll just go on my phone and delete your number. You call me tomorrow. At least I can say, Oh, wait. I don't know. I can't I don't pick on no number.

SPEAKER_03 1:58

But that's violation, bro.

SPEAKER_02 1:59

So you like meat in your mouth.

SPEAKER_03 2:02

Go on Instagram, bro. You see that every and bro, all the dummies behind them are just eating the whole thing, bro.

SPEAKER_02 2:10

Yeah. A grown man with beards.

SPEAKER_03 2:12

Bro, man feeding you, fam.

SPEAKER_02 2:13

Bro, grown man with beards there. And we all we can see is your beards. Brother, do you know how crazy that is? And then when you tell a man, oh you like meat, they'll go, Oh, pause, pause. Brother, brother, brother. We saw we saw your video. We saw your clip. Yeah, but you and meat are good friends, bro.

SPEAKER_03 2:31

But but the thing is, though, you're out with your girl and everything. Yeah, would you allow the guy to put the meat in your girl's mouth?

SPEAKER_02 2:36

Oh, someone is going, someone is getting put down then. Is it? Yeah, bro. Are you mad? I don't mind it though. No, no, no. Pass me the thing and I'll do it. Bro, that's the point. Uh, I want to feel like South Bay.

SPEAKER_03 2:48

Mmm.

SPEAKER_02 2:49

You're a babes.

SPEAKER_03 2:50

Yeah, nice. Fam, fam. I didn't even know. I I didn't even know that you're a man or man defender, bro.

unknown 2:57

Like that, bro.

SPEAKER_04 3:02

I didn't even know my man is a man of man defender, bro. John Terrace. Let me explain it to you. John Terrace, I'm gonna tell you the reason why.

SPEAKER_02 3:11

So, you know, there's some places in life you get there's some places you go to, and there's some places you reach in life, bro. Uh you know me, I'm calm. Uh easy, yeah. Yeah, I know. But my problem is with that guy, it's not even the meat, bro. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? This guy is there in front of you teasing your miss, brother. I should be the only one teasing my are you mad? You get my physics, uh, yeah. Then he does, then he does. Then and she's like going for it, brother. Don't do that.

SPEAKER_03 3:35

Saying that then, saying that, yeah. Your girl tells you, listen, I'm going to an Usher concert, and you know Usher is the absolute crush for her and everything. Yeah, and she goes ticket, yeah, front seat order, but then she also got the the meet and grit one. You get me, like you know, some meet and grit, like you see the girl bend over and all that kind of shit, bruv. You get what I'm saying? You do know that.

SPEAKER_02 3:56

First of all, I'm so happy I do not have someone that's gonna do that. There's no way. No chance. The problem here is people confuse things like that, they confuse, um, they confuse boundaries with insecurities. That's the problem about the world. The world thinks, like, let me tell you what insecurities are. Insecurities are things that you are dealing with that you are likely to do if you're in that position, but you don't want others to do it. That's what insecurity is. I personally will feel uncomfortable, even as a woman, to be doing meet and greet with some random brother, even though I'm a fan. I just want to listen to your music, right? Cool. So, outside that, like some of my partner has been to the chocolate thing, whatever. You know, those guys that do their those the male strippers or whatever. Okay, yeah, yeah. She's been there. I've I'm not there with her, you know. When she's there, I'm I'm home sleeping, I'm very secure, I'm calm. But they're saying things, brother, we need to put a stop to it because we we know how this is going. Because remember, those guys, like your ushers, Chris Brown, bro, they're just there to entertain. That's one. Two, if they do anything, you're they're not gonna think of her anymore. They've moved on. This like plethora of women that they're doing this with things with, right? Cool, that's the same thing with that salt bay guy. Why are we there doing this? And I'm right there, brother. Just pass me the knife and the meat. Let me do the teasing, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So, but shout out to the guys though that would allow their missus to do that.

SPEAKER_03 5:17

I'm not gonna lie, give her cherries, and bro. No, we're not doing that, bro. I'm not gonna lie. Some of their meet and greets are like a thousand.

SPEAKER_02 5:22

Would you allow your missus to be there in front front row, then after meet and greet? So she's been fed the cherry, then also do meet and greet. Nah, bro.

SPEAKER_03 5:30

You are not wasting my money like that, bro. Fuck all that. You're not exactly my money like that. What are we doing? What are we even doing, bro? Yeah, that's what I'll ask myself. I wouldn't mind, I wouldn't mind the concert though. I wouldn't mind if she wants to go see Chris Brown Osha and she's front row. Absolutely have fun. I don't know about all that, bro.

SPEAKER_02 5:52

No, the meet and greet. If I'm there and I've seen that she's keeping it, I'll be honest. I've I've seen some meet, uh, meet and greet, right? I've seen my guy said I've seen some meat, bro. No, not the meat, you not the M-E-A-T.

SPEAKER_04 6:13

I've seen some and greet, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:16

I've seen some and greet, yeah. And I promise you, it's car. You see the women, those cash. Oh, I'm a fan of yours. It's very nice, respectful, brown this everything. Even hug cool, done. So women like to do too much. I think it was the baby, I think it was the baby, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 6:32

Uh a lady came to do the meet and greet thing, yeah, but her husband was on the side and everything, yeah. And the and the baby was violating, bro. Like, like he was trying to hug up the girl, bend the girl over and shit. And you could hear the women say, Oh, chill, my husband is right there, you know. For real, yeah, bro. The clip is online, bro. Ah, brother. You know what I'm saying? This is what I'm saying, bro. I blame the man for for even going there with the wife, bruv. Shit like that, yeah. You know what? I'm not, I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, shit like that. If she will really want to go, yeah, and she okay. First of all, she better hide it from me, right? Yeah, yeah. Don't let me find out that you win, but okay, you really want to go and everything, yeah. Bro, I'm not gonna be there. What am I even doing over there, bro? You know what I'm saying? Like, facts, you get me? Like, what are we even? I'm not you're not even gonna see me there. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? Do your share, satisfy your fantasies and all that shit, and just come back home, fam. In it, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 7:28

Yeah, nah, because some fantasies do follow you home though, still. Yeah, that's why we need to like pull stop to some fantasies. You get me? They follow you home. You get me, yeah. I'll tell you, bro. Yeah, man. But listen, $400, $500, that's or $500 for a Chris Bro. He's gone, he's got it, man.

SPEAKER_03 7:45

Bro, I really want to go, but I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, them tickets scare the shit out of me. I'm thinking, okay, if there are them prices in America, yeah, how much are the prices gonna be in the UK?

SPEAKER_02 7:55

Then it's mad, bro. But then again, let's be real. American prices are always gonna be expensive. The reason is those that's where the market is, so the demand is high there, so they can do that. Over in Europe, it's selected, it's only a selected few that would go. You'll be surprised.

SPEAKER_03 8:13

We'll see. You'll be surprised. Beyonce was here, my homegirl, big Beyonce fan and everything. Yeah, I think she tried to get a ticket here, but she couldn't. Yeah, she got a ticket for Amsterdam. Okay, she flew to Amsterdam. Mind you, you're not even now talking about just going to the concert and come back home and sleep. You're talking about flight, hotel, everything. And and all the prices have spiked up and everything because I mean it's fucking Beyoncé. There you go. You go, I mean, like we have this three days to to chop. You know what I mean? The city has the three days to chop. Fam for that whole experience and everything, mind you, she just went and came back the next day or something like that. Fam, she spent close to about 1,500 pounds. Just like that. No, so some people you'll be surprised.

SPEAKER_02 9:02

Yeah, some people have they are willing to spend that. But that's what I'm trying to say. You said Beyonce, bro. No disrespect to my goat, Chris, and another goat, Usher. Fam, you'll be surprised again. No disrespect to them. It's beyond bro, it's Beyonce, bro. There's so many. I promise you, old auntie, one of your oldest, oldest aunties, know who Beyonce is. She might not listen to us, but she knows who Beyonce is.

SPEAKER_03 9:26

Fact, bro. I don't think that there's anything that Beyonce can do that Chris Brown cannot do.

SPEAKER_02 9:30

No, no, no, we're not talking about performance.

SPEAKER_03 9:31

No, I'm not talking about performance. I'm talking about selling out, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:34

I'm talking about selling out stadiums. Chris Brown, yeah, Usher, especially Chris Brown, still has that stigma on him. That's facts. Everywhere you go to, people still bring that stuff up, even though we've moved on. Yeah, people in life, you know, in life, man has said, yo, I messed up and that. Still bring that to him. Even if you even saw his um some of the comments were like, Oh, why are we letting this blah blah blah come back to the UK? I'm like, rah. Beyonce is cleaner, very clean, very popular. So much so that it compared to Michael Jackson, which is blasphemy. But anyway, that's that's the level, bro. We've gone to. So, yes, of course, with Beyonce. The market, she's she's marketable everywhere. Chris Brown is not just marketable everywhere. He has to be, you have to understand or like music, like that style of music for you to be a massive fan. That's the difference. So that's why Beyonce can command that. Chris Brown and Usher over here in the UK, they might be big amongst the cool again. Not saying people are not cool, but amongst the cool guys that listen to music or we're involved in the pop culture. That's about it. And I promise you, I'm not gonna lie. If we even I wish I could now, just even call my dad that doesn't know nothing about music. If I ask him who's Chris Brown, does he know who's Usher? Does he know Beyonce? Oh, yeah, I know Beyonce. Is it brother? I don't even know any song of Beyonce, but he knows who the he knows the name. Does he know Fella Kuti?

unknown 10:49

Of course.

SPEAKER_02 10:53

King Sonny Hades, of course, he does. That's what I'm saying. They know these things, you know what I'm saying? But they don't know who the heck is. If you're watching, just go on Facebook. You're probably right. No, no, no, you're probably right.

SPEAKER_03 11:04

Yeah, yeah. That's why she can command that, but yeah. Fam, you said Michael Jackson, everything. Yeah, I was off in the internet, was it yesterday and all that, right? So I believe 1988, Wembley Stadium. I think he did about two or three days each other. Yeah, yeah. Bro, they said our ticket was about 18 pounds or 18 dollars at the time. That's to that's to tell you how inflation is just yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:32

So let's say twenty twenty dollars, you said twenty dollars.

SPEAKER_03 11:34

Let's say twenty dollars.

SPEAKER_02 11:36

Twenty dollars. Now in twenty twenty-six. How much is it? In regards to inflation. Yeah. Let's see if it comes up fifty-five dollars to sixty dollars in twenty twenty-six when you factor inflation.

SPEAKER_03 12:08

There you go. So that's to tell you. But now we're talking about tickets of 500 pounds or 500 for some dollars.

SPEAKER_02 12:16

For artists that are that are not even half for Michael Jackson.

SPEAKER_03 12:19

That's bro. We are talking about that's crazy, car finances and shit, bro. Yeah, bro, monthly finances, insurance and that, insurance and that, bro. Rent, yeah, bro. That's what we're talking about. You're talking two months shopping, shopping lists, flight ticket, yeah, bro. That's what I'm talking about for just uh uh two hours, three hours experience.

SPEAKER_02 12:37

We're talking strip club. Um, sorry, what did you say? My guy. What did you say?

SPEAKER_04 12:42

What did you say? You are woman, this guy, this guy. You are five and six. What did he say?

SPEAKER_03 13:03

We are not even recording this at night. We are recording this idiot. It's so fucking hot, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 13:08

My man's man is at strip club you know, me, you know me, no, you say things, you say things, mate. You are five and six, bro. I'm innocent, man.

SPEAKER_02 13:28

I'm innocent.

SPEAKER_04 13:29

Trust me.

SPEAKER_03 13:30

Ah shit, but yeah, man, like shit is crazy when you just factor all that shit in, bro. That's cool. But talk about Michael Jackson, fam. Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_02 13:37

You want to see the movie, didn't you? Yes, I want to see Michael. Yeah, Michael's my goat. If you know me, you know, greatest of all time, man. Yeah, I mean, I was born into having vinyls of Michael Jackson, bro. That's how I knew that, yeah, this guy, yeah, bro. Only artist that's gonna try is gonna transcend generations. Brother, there's no one that's doing it. No disrespect to you, and Beyonce, bro. Michael is just bang bang bang bang, yeah, forever. What a what the movie was alright, because of course, again, the movie wasn't okay. I'm seeing it from an from a fan, a super fan of Michael Jackson. I'm gonna be extra, extra, extra critical because I'm just a super I've seen pretty much all his talks, I know all about Michael Jackson to an extent from what we know via what we've was what we've been allowed to know, right? But for the kids that are just born in this new era, born after my yeah, this movie might be like, oh, they might find it more fascinating. For me, everyone did a good job. I I'm not gonna lie, it was a good watch. Some of yeah, some things were funny, some things were so laughable that they shouldn't be in a movie. I would just be saying that, but I don't want to ruin it for obvious, you know what I'm saying? I don't, you know, spoiler alert, not really spoiler alert, but just so a few stories there, like it's over-exaggerated, or they added spice for a little bit, yeah, for what's it called, for entertainment purposes. But outside that, I'll be honest, the movie's decent. I think there's gonna be a part two because at the end of it, yeah, at the end, it ended not abruptly, it ended in a way where it wasn't finalized, so it's gonna be they said his story continues. Okay, clearly, that means they're just they're gonna have another you know, um, installment of that. But it was a good movie. Scale of one to ten scale of one to ten, six over ten for me. Oh, trash then. No, it's not really trash, it's mid in that sense. But like I said, for me, seeing it as a guy that already knows every single thing that I need to know from the guy that I really like as an artist. Right now, if you get get like a 20-year-old that all they know is Drake, Kendrick, they're not really, they didn't grow up in that era, bro. They don't know, they didn't know that there was a guy that would just stand and people will be fainting. All they've seen is clips on YouTube or whatever. Yeah, bro. Man grew up in that era. See, Michael, he's just standing there like this for five minutes. People are just dying. Oh, yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah. Do you know what I'm saying? You're gonna go there with that lens, like, yo, I hope they recreate that moment. I wanna have goosebumps. Do you get it? But again, I don't want to spoil it. But yeah, you when you watch it, you'll be like, Oh, I think I know what he's trying to say. They did a good job, but it didn't. I've seen the real thing. So when seen this, you're like this. I promise you, when you watch it, if you ever do watch it, you're gonna go, oh, I get what you're saying.

SPEAKER_03 16:23

I'm not gonna lie to you, bro. I wanted to go to the cinema to watch it, but on a second tour, I think um, I saw some people say some of the celebrities and everything. And everyone that I saw, you're the first person that says, Yo, it was everyone say, Oh, shut uh, like they should have just left it alone. And to me, that's always been my thing when it comes to this type of movies or shows, especially about some of our idols, right? Especially the ones that are that just transcended, like they should just leave it alone, bro. Because you can never get it right. You like I don't care the person you get to to dance Michael Jackson on everything or sing Michael Jackson, all that you can never get it right, if you get my point, yeah. And and it's either you tell the full story or you're not gonna tell the story at all. You get what I'm saying? Because there is so much to his story from when he was a kid to his controversy and everything, and you know, normally movies like this they wouldn't really want to touch the controversy. You get what I'm saying? Like those sort of things. So it kind of in my opinion, yeah, bro. Just leave that legacy alone.

SPEAKER_02 17:30

I agree. And the problem, the reason this is why for me, anyway.

SPEAKER_03 17:33

Sorry, I said I had to say this. Yeah, the only type of movies or shows that I like if they want to recreate whatever they want to do, yeah. Is it has to be like my favorite gangsters, like the Italian mafias, you get me, or some sort of scammer or drug dealer, and even that they don't know, they never make that, they never get that.

SPEAKER_02 17:52

Exactly, like made off. You get me.

SPEAKER_03 17:54

They want to do something about made off, but or something like Jeffrey Epstein and shit.

SPEAKER_02 17:58

They never get that right. That's like documentary stuff. Yeah, no, this is a biopic, right? Yeah, because it's a biopic. Unfortunately, I love my biopics made by neutral people.

SPEAKER_03 18:07

In my opinion, sorry, cut you off a swell. In my opinion, yeah, if you want to do something like this for Michael Jackson, it it has to be sort of like a documentary, series. You can't tell the full story in two hours.

SPEAKER_02 18:21

I get it, but if you're trying in in the world we live in where everything is in instalments, literally now, we're going to that phase where we had we need a part one, part two, part three, part four to build and generate income and revenue. Of course, it's a good idea because everything now is built in the sense of a series, so that's why we have loads of series that are really better than movies, yeah. Right? The truth is, if you want to have a very good biopic, never allow people close to the story to do it because there's gonna be some sense of bias. There's gonna be bias, yeah. First of all, the executive producers are pretty much almost all the Jackson Jackson brothers, they're not gonna paint their brother like an idiot. The the main guy acting as Michael Jackson, that's Michael Jackson's nephew, brother. He's not gonna do what I'm saying. But if you want to really get a good biopic, like for instance, now if Tobes was executive producer, he doesn't have any like bruh. I want to tell a good story, man. Man, he's just gonna tell the controversy, will be the first thing they'll do as like a prelude to the actual movie, and people get involved in it. But of course, these guys are looking, Jimmy, Jeremy Jackson and all these guys, they're trying to protect their brother's image, anyway.

SPEAKER_03 19:25

Of course, but then also I don't know how I feel about someone else, for example, you know, acting or performing like Michael Jackson, because at the back of my head, like we grew up watching Michael, you get what I'm saying, and when I see someone else trying to do that, it doesn't just I don't care how good the person does it, it just doesn't hit it. I know what you mean, you get me like I'd rather you're telling the story, but now get some old um footage or whatever, you get what I'm saying? Like go to the archives and all that kind of shit. Yeah, you get what I'm saying, it's like that, yeah. To me, that's if you want to do something like that, do it like that, but then do it as a series or documentary as well. But if you want to do like movies and all that, or remakes and everything, yeah, there are a couple movies or franchises that I just feel just leave that fuck alone, bro. One is The Lion King, yeah. You get me? You see all the remakes of Lion Kings that they're gonna do.

SPEAKER_02 20:20

No, but to be fair, they banged though.

SPEAKER_03 20:21

Some of them I and I've never watched any of them. Oh wow, it's none. I like them. You get me. The one that the one that was his face, um like Aaron did that made him famous, that all the ladies were going for him. Mufasa, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:35

Oh, that was a very good is it? I've never I never watched that. The one that Beyonce did. I was shocked. I never watched that. That was a flop. I was just putting that one. That one should have never happened. I never watched that one. Sorry, yeah, it was okay.

SPEAKER_03 20:47

No, my memory of Lion King is the classic one, the first one. You know what I'm saying? That's one. Two, I'm seeing remakes of Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter coming out. Bro, leave the classic the way it is.

SPEAKER_02 21:02

And I agree with you that they should be left alone, but that would be selfish. Why? Because why these remakes, or should I say, ones that they for posterity's sake, so they're trying to introduce them to the new generation. I don't know, but they're not getting it right. No, that that's what I'm trying to say to you. To us, they're never ever gonna get it right. Okay, because we've seen the original, yeah. The kids that didn't grow up on that would see that and think, oh, that's the original, that's so cool, because they've never seen it before. It's the same, it's the same way where someone goes, that's just this is what I always say to people. When you go into the toilet and use the toilet and you don't clean, look after it, yeah. The second person that comes in would know that you did that. The third person that comes in would think the second person did that. Do you see it? So it's everyone is having a new revelation to what they're seeing, like new perspective. So for the young kids, the Gen Zs and the Alpha or whatever they're called, they will see this and go because the movie's made with an idea of what their new what the new era is. Do you get it? There's no there's certain things that they have to put in there because that's what they these new kids are accustomed to. Like making sure that everything is in the middle, in center, like quick quick um what's it called jump cuts. Like all of these things they do fuck the bro fuck their generation and their new era bro.

SPEAKER_03 22:20

Yeah the ones that introduce them to the classic bro.

SPEAKER_02 22:22

Oh no that's the classics and watch the classics first then decide.

SPEAKER_03 22:26

Yeah that's why people but I get why people do new stuff and to do a remake is because to introduce yeah true but but I just also feel like you know there's no the same thing that music is suffering is the same thing that movies you know the this movie House is a suffering as well. They just not a lot of creativity anymore.

SPEAKER_02 22:43

You get me they just want to find the old shit that banged remake it you get what I'm saying repackage it and everything just like you said oh for the new generation bro if the new generation want to what that shit introduce them to the um the original ones yeah that's why a lot a lot of times a lot of these new guys are for instance if we even use like your Afro B some people go listen to a song that that was like a banger in 2020 in 2006 these new kids will say oh the replay value and die didn't age well you're like huh but the new song you're listening to interpolated that song so what are you talking about? Do you get it? So I understand why these guys are doing that because they need to make money and they need to get what they need to get from a certain generation 30 years from now Michael Jackson might probably be flying in sky we know he did that to an extent where he was in the hole and stuff performing and they had to like put stuff to get him above and get him out of the place because yo it was madness right we get that but 30 years from now the guy that's gonna recreate that is going to move mad. He's gonna start adding bits that never even happen but no one is bothered to go check the first one because they're like just lazy bro that's how this generation is it's what's in front of me that's what I'm gonna do lazy to do research lazy to go and make your own um what's it called um your your own create your own perception of something or come to a conclusion on something I'll wait for someone else to tell me how to do it or da da da da da da and yeah man that's where we are I hear that though shout shout out to Michael man the greatest of all time fights though you know when we say goats his goats has to have bass goats what a guy well bro you know just just before we introduce ourselves and everything bro I'm not gonna lie I'm still getting headaches from some of this ticket price I'm seeing bro because the Jay-Z one as well bro the Jay-Z one the one that he's about to do I'm like thinking bro concerts are no longer about fans anymore bro it has never been about fans mate no it's always been it's always at some point it was about fans but now it becomes like you know people with money if you have the money yeah if you ain't got the money just watch on YouTube yeah or just watch clips I mean I'm an artist I want to make money from what I'm doing so no no yeah cool I mean you can still make your money I get that yeah you want to make money from from um your label or some of these business houses or whatever you want to call that right but your fans are your fans though you get me all your fans are not rich you get my point and which is the reason why life nation is going through the trouble that they're going through right you get me because I believe it was a CO it's monopoly though so yeah I believe it was a CO that was caught on a hot mic talking about how how stupid the the fans are yeah or whatever you got I mean like Life Nation is not a hot supernova because they've monopolized the market you know and I in my opinion it shouldn't be like that because you're now saying if I ain't got the money if I ain't got 500 pounds a thousand pounds or whatever to see Jay-Z or Beyoncé or Osha Chris Brown everything yeah and these are like my favorite artists that's it I'm fucked you get me while you now see people yes they have the money but they probably just go in there as bragging rights or or they just FOMO you get me or they just take taking a go you get me like yo let's go let's go see people go there for fear of missing out back in the days people go to concerts to actually experience it you know that's that's an experience but now we have loads of everyone who got their phones out people are not really enjoying it they're just there to show to the world that I was made that's it I could afford it. So yeah fans don't worry about it man music is music when it first started the idea was for the artists to express themselves and show you that they have a talent that they want you to be part of what it is they're going through then he moved up to hey man I'm a talented guy I want you to pay pay me for my talent then he moved to hey man F you man if you want to see me you see me is becoming everything else but the music care about the guy that's got the money that'll pay me to sing that yeah so hey you don't need to go see them anyway just stay home and play their songs over and over again that's it yeah just just imagine it in your head just play it to your head in it play it you know just just play it in your head because I can even understand with the Western artists yeah at least you know you're gonna get a solid um what's it called um stage design performance performance and stuff I mean not all of them though okay again I repeat at least with the western people yeah but not all of them I know it's not all of them but you have the in your head you know you let your brain think for in its own we know it's not all of them but you're like oh something might happen today I'll be excited about I don't even think you can count on both hands I don't I think when you're really really really deep here when you're talking about stage performance when you're talking about art when you're talking about music performance when you're talking about all that shit on stage you probably will count on one hand the artists that will give you that yeah I'm not all of them I'm not disagreeing and I'm talking about in the West in the West but I'm not I don't disagree but my point is this you know there's a way you'll be like okay I'm going out tonight I might pull am I not pull that's you let your brain you allow your brain to think that that's why some guys do it they allow their brain to they'll dress well they know at the end of the night they're getting nothing but they've allowed their brain to think it whilst if you're going to the post office you don't allow your brain to think that you just go to the post office coming back you already know your expectation I'm going there to do what I'm doing and I'm coming back I'm going to work to do this I'm coming back that's the difference. So with Afrobeats I know what I'm gonna get the it's guaranteed this is what's gonna happen except maybe Burner Boy everyone maybe burner boy yeah except him he's the one that puts effort into designing bro he's the one that design stage and all that stuff bro he's the only guy that's putting effort into am I making this up I'm not making this up you know he's the one doing the 360 stage he's the only brother that puts effort into because he's a touring artist so that's his bread and butter but but is it him or is it the budget? Okay it's him we know it's the team the budget and all of that we know that but at least who would give you a budget of something that you're not good at you think I'm gonna be pumping money into someone that's just gonna waste it no they can see that he delivers when we give him that opportunity to do that he delivers he does it really well he sings he bro I've been to a lot of um but I've got like exclusive clips on my camera I've been to the one in um what's it called um uh where's this place again I went to see him on his private session that he did like last couple of months ago oh damn it where is it where is it Wimbledon not Wimbledon oh I can't believe it but it's not far from where I live in Southwest right nice intimate place when going there that's like a big artist that does arena tours and stadium stuff and he's doing it that bro because even his team are like yo this guy really loves performing in front of fans but no boy said it everyone knows he loves that interaction that's what gets him pumped so you as a company or as a as a management or as a label you're gonna give him money because you know what he's gonna deliver I I hear you the remaining I hear you I hear you but I'm not gonna lie Remer's last concert or tour whatever you want to call it the the one that he wanted to do the whole Travis Scott thing with the mountains and all that shit right he killed it though stage I'm talking about stage stage performance creativity all that shit I'm only talking about majority majority always carries the vote no one cares about the minority I'm talking about who can we pick out from this the do Afrobeat Thames doesn't do Afrobeats so I can't even put her in there Thames doesn't do Afrobeats so she's out of yeah yeah yeah equation who again if you if you had to you're asleep and someone wakes you tops stop stop uh we want to do a concert who should we pick I promise you you generally will say Burner Boy that's what that's the truth yeah yeah so that's what I'm saying that that's the guy that you're like oh yeah there's a chance we're gonna get something the rest you know what they're gonna do you already know they're gonna spray water on you um they're gonna just play the track and he's gonna play in the corner and then they'll sing over it and that's it but talking about that Bonner boy's sister I saw her concert Nisi very intimate and I know that right but bro that shit look good bro and where did she get it from of course there you go this is what I'm saying it's like it's it's it's something that you're accustomed to that's what you do the standard has been set so you're never gonna want to do something else do you know how look she's been in the background every time watching Burner Boy Costa she's going I'm not doing anything less than this bro her vocals were crisp thank you you get me she's talented as fuck bro like like she was playing um what's that key the keyboard but looks like a veto whatever they call that yeah you get me she was killing it very intimate jazz cafe yeah jazz cafe very intimate but absolutely stunning and she looked beautiful in real life too you get I mean like listen the only thing is with her obviously she's gonna be in the shadows of Bonaboy's sister rightly so you got I mean but then it's I feel like stuff like that cannot take away from from somebody's talent sometimes or or no not from the talent but from the way people view the talent absolutely she just needs to keep going she just needs to keep going that's the only thing that's gonna the only thing that I like about it is unless someone tells you like unless obviously you're tapped into Afrobeat and everything you will not tell you will not be able to know that she's Bonaboy she absolutely you got I mean obviously if you have a look on her Instagram and all that shit that's cool. But she never mentions anything about him yes like hearting heart no no no but that's what it should be like that there should be no reason for me to be riding someone's coattail on oh yeah that's my guy that's my brother that's what I I hey I'll be honest with you that's it still helps because a lot of times so many of Burner Boy fans automatically became her fan not because of her talent but because oh that's Burner Boy's sister that's always gonna happen yeah so I'm saying same thing with Ronaldo's son some people just like Ronaldo's son whether it's good or bad because they like Ronaldo so it's natural so she has to deal with that and find ways to carve out a niche for herself and her fans or the people that she genuinely sees as fans and yeah man but yeah going back on that obviously to closing closing out on that well closing or what we're talking about yes I just think with that performance stuff yeah you know what to expect from your your brothers on on the left you don't know what to expect on your brothers from the right because of course you're right hand there's a handful of handful of yes 100% but again life goes based on majority the majority always put time and effort into that on this other side yeah alhamdulillah talking about burned though there's a clip floating around yeah I'm just gonna play where my man actually asked him the guy's name is a Mekah oh I didn't the guy's name is a Mekah yeah who doesn't know a makeup no I didn't I'm not gonna lie I'm not gonna lie apparently this is the thing apparently I've seen the face before oh but I didn't know his name yeah I didn't know his name and everything but I'm sorry Ibukar there you go Ibuka you go I mean so apparently he even asked Bonaboy's mom the same question two years later he asked Bonaboy the same question are you arrogant you go I mean so no he said what does you know what do you say to people that say you said that you're arrogant something like that yeah so this was what he asked the mom so let's hear what the mom said and then we can now play now the clip I've been looking for the full conversation I don't know why it's it's it's nowhere on the internet no the interview's not out yet this is an interview that happened a year and a half that's why I tweeted long time ago brother you should have released it at the height of things for people to so why did he release it? He's a Nigerian guy you know so he waited if he did if he did it with Apple or wait so he did this interview with Bonner a year and a half ago brother you didn't know that this is time ago this was even before the album um what's the name of that new album that dropped what's his name what's the name of the song um um um um um no no sign of weakness no sign of weakness yes before the album he did joke yeah bro come on man so why are you dropping the clips now like I said it's not even dropping the clips they even said coming soon bro there's no they don't rate the Nigerian media bro that's crazy trust me right so so this what he hit the S gen between him and Bernaboy's mom beef you know so yeah I mean very well deserved you talked there about you know expecting to win the girl and a lot of people get that from Burner when he tweets or does the occasional interview the confidence which is what you're saying now sort of is confused with arrogance.

SPEAKER_01 35:50

Do you mind that he's seen as arrogant do you mind that you were seen as arrogance with the way you run the Burner brand um I don't mind honestly so answer that quite clearly I don't mind at all I mean I think any adjective they want to attach to you is okay the the thing is who are you you know and and and I think arrogance I'm not sure I'm because I'm a linguist I'm a bit fussy about words I I'm I I would right now I would love to look at the real meaning of arrogance because I know that there is one that means knowing your worth and carrying yourself as such.

SPEAKER_02 36:33

If that is arrogance then it's a good thing I think pride is what is a problem if if I'm not mixing up the words I mean um but but if if if knowing your self-worth and carrying yourself as such is not I can't I can't apologize for that because I think um we we we were born into a world where we are expected to put our heads down you know first the colour of your skin the colour of your passport uh for me my gender so yeah I'm I'm I don't understand that concept of life i i understand that you know if I know something I know it and I expect you to realize that I know it and if you don't realize that I know it then put me to the test that's it you know but prove yourself right so you get the gist of what you say yeah now fast forward he now asks one about the same question related unrelated would you would you call yourself arrogant do you know the meaning of arrogant I don't know what else I'm asking would you call yourself arrogant no if you're asking me that means you know the meaning of arrogant because you can't ask me a question you don't know the meaning of right so what's the meaning of arrogant do that our way our way all right listen before we jump into this thing yeah Baba Ibuka yeah just come out and say what you want to say bro because you've been asking the same question for two years you think my man is arrogant that's it just come out and say what you want to say bro I don't think that I think shout out to Ibuka man well seasoned um presenter and entertainer all round is no he seemed like a nice guy and everything but no no you've been asking the same guy the guys yeah that's what we call when we talk about I don't he's not necessarily seen as a journalist but he's one of the guys that personally like I watch his podcast in general and he's very intelligent and I love the fact that this question is asking I love it when people do that you're asking questions that people want to know the answer to because they see in that person you're speaking to from that perspective I don't think I don't necessarily think Ibuka thinks he's arrogant I think it's just based on what the fans think of him so he wants to do their job because as an interviewer you you want to be the mouthpiece for the people watching at home and people go oh man wanted you to ask that question why didn't you ask you know how people are right shout out to him and first of all burner boy yes you can ask a question and you still don't know what it means because that's what question is you've got to ask people to know so when he goes you can't ask me a question that you don't already know burner boy that's bro I mean you can still ask questions no no no but burner boy listen to what burner boy said yeah you can't you're asking me a question that you're that's a valid that's a valid opinion that no that's a valid statement from Burner Boy no it's not valid yeah it's valid it's not because kids ask questions based on what they don't know yeah but he's not a kid though like like if you're gonna ask me do I think I'm arrogant yeah you should know what arrogant what the mean of arrogant is for you to ask me that question no I don't I think it's a valid no it's not because guys well forgetting something psychologically everything in life you ask someone for um ask someone about um ask someone to explain to you you're asking them to give you their perspective from their own lens bro do you know what I consider to be maybe fat it's not probably what you consider fat do you get it that's what it is so that's what it is and that's what good interviewers do it that's what they do you ask a person a question Bernaboy could have gone okay for me what I see as me if I'm considered to be arrogant is blah blah blah blah blah then you asking him and then saying to him oh why would you ask me a question unless you already know what it means brother it's like I'm listening to that I'm going no that's not how the world works if I ask you a question yes I might have a meaning well I might have some sort of definition for it you might have a different definition that's what I'm asking you fair enough but that's what I'm saying excuse me my opinion Bernaboy was just weird there but I get it he's already not defensive but he's like ready to go so do you think he's fat well say fat yeah you're right so do you think he's arrogant um burnaboy yes burnaboy so let me just because I wrote some notes on I this because I was gonna do a video on it but I I couldn't bother so I wrote a few notes right on what um I being arrogant means right just arrogance in general yeah so it's overvaluing your work to the point yeah that feedback becomes annoying so if someone overvalues themselves that they don't want no feedback oh I don't care do you think Banner boy does that yeah okay that's one point I think okay acting like your taste is superior it's just difference acting like everything you do is just superior yeah okay I think too now believing that your own success is pure talent not not luck not timing not culture it's just like yeah I think that my talent got me here yep okay three that's three for free last one dismissing collaborators fans and audience role in your eyes it can't come across that way oh god there's nothing wrong in being arrogant no there's really nothing wrong with it see let me tell you something let me tell you something I believe in being arrogant yeah if your work can justify your arrogance thank you you get what I'm saying I do listen I do not have a problem with bona boy showing the industry his ass I don't give a fuck like by all means my guy yeah my whole issue sometimes is the fans you get me yes the fans can be annoying but just like your kids sometimes and I'm not saying that the fans are kids just like your kids they might love you as a parent but sometimes they can be annoying sometimes because they want your attention on time and you get me but then at the same time your fans actually are part of the the the equation that got you to where you are you get what I'm saying and the least that you can do is appreciate them like God has blessed you to be where you are and everything to them you are a demigod if you want to say that right so the least that you can do is even if you're having a bad day we understand celebrities are humans obviously but even if you're having a bad day sometimes and everything but the least that you can do that five ten minutes that you're around the fans or whatever the case is just appreciate them. Like like for example fuck it the the royal family you know I'm saying they can be going through wherever with whatever they're going through right you see them all the time yeah of course yeah you go I'm saying stay proposed because yeah because it's their duty you know to me that's the only caveat when it comes to that yeah every other thing bro listen you're him yeah bro you're him yeah I don't know why Nigerians you go I'm saying I get it there's a negative connotation to um to the word or to the term arrogance there's a negative connotation because Nigerians are seeing It from a very cultural and religious way and a religious point. So there's like oh arrogance means you're downfall, blah, prideful, all of that stuff. So they forget that people have every right to big up themselves, and because that's the only way for some people actually to survive this world is to drink the delusional juice and believe in it. That's it, that's what it is. You know, Ronaldo's your Messi. Now Messi's arrogant in a quiet way, but you wouldn't know he's arrogant. You don't know what he says to himself just because his behavior is not necessarily um met with um backlash or anything. That doesn't mean he's arrogant. Everyone is got arrogance in him. I've seen some games, Messi moves, and he's saying to the guy, I'm him, so stop chatting. That's what he's trying to say. Yeah, exactly. Do you know what I'm saying? So it's like, okay, fair enough. So Bernaboy should not, in my opinion, and I know this a year and a bit, he needs to like accept that yo, big man, I this is why I am arrogant. You know what I mean? This is why I am, and it should start breaking it down to people. The reason why I'm arrogant is because I've worked my way up to this point. Yeah, yeah. Then start talking about your accolades once you let people know say yes, I'm arrogant.

SPEAKER_03 45:04

No, no, so this is now the thing, yeah. This is this is the thing about the whole thing. You can talk about your accolades, you can talk about your achievements, great, yeah, but I've always said that it's better for someone else to talk about it for you.

SPEAKER_02 45:18

Um, yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 45:20

I used to believe that before. Like it hits different, it's always when somebody else is talking about your biggest, yes, yes, yes, when other people are talking about it. Like, if you look at someone like Jay-Z, yeah, he never really talks about his shit except in music. Like he talks his shit in music, but that's music, that's rap. That's what rap is supposed to be, bravado, right? But you never really see him on the internet interviews and all that kind of shit, say boo boo, boo. This is where I am. I think, bro, the only time I've seen Jay-Z say yo, I'm him, was his last interview when he did with the kid and everything. And they were asking, that's a seasoned present of girl. Yeah, but like they were asking that did he play a role in the whole beef and everything. He said, Bro, I'm Jay-Z, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm a grown-ass man, and yeah, you get me. Like, it hits different when somebody else is talking about your shit than you because when you're talking about you know, it can come across it that way.

SPEAKER_02 46:18

He's still very much Nigerian, fair enough, brother. In this world we're living, you know, in this new era, you have to adjust to what the era, adjust to the new way of living. Hit your own drum, yeah, bro. Get a pan during COVID. Did you clap? Did you come out of your window to do clap for the NHS? Brother, clap for yourself, bro. I'm still practicing. I need to perfect my uh bro. I need to perfect it, then I'll come out and do it. Because I don't want it to clap. Clap it for yourself. One key, then people know, bro, talk your because no one, bro. Have you wait? Let me sit up for this. Have you ever seen someone at random just come and say, yo, Tobes is the this, that that? No one cares, bro. You have to talk your thing, you have to big yourself up for people to know who you are. Then when you do it first time, leave it for the next six months. So you do don't do it every day. No, no, no, no, no. Do it once, keep that clip, repurpose the clip. Let people know who you are, man. Like for real. I'm me. I've done this, I've done that, I've done this, I've done that. And guess what? I'm not the only person in the world doing it. There are other people, but you know, my one, I've got different source, bro. Like, talk your stuff. Don't let this African mentality ruin your stees, bro. Like, you see, some of you need to big yourself up to feel good. You know what I'm saying? So I remember when I was young, this is like, that's true. Huh? Then I met the OGs doing that. They talk about this stuff. The reason why to someone like Jay-Z, he doesn't do a lot of interviews. Now he did it in a very systematic way, very smart way. He's true. He's just bigged himself up in like three three words. I'm me, I'm Jay-Z. What would I gain from getting involved in this? You know what I mean? I've been there, I've done it, I've done it with Nash back in those days. So I know what it entails. I don't need to do it, blah blah blah. Yeah, it's just um fortunately for someone like a burner boy, when he does it, there's like an undertone of aggression and maybe him being rude or talking down to people. Once you're bigging up yourself, don't talk down to no one. Yeah, just big up yourself, just big up yourself. It's about me. I don't care. I don't want no one involved in this movie. I'm the director, I'm the actor, I'm the gaffer, I'm everything. Yeah, bro. I will watch this clip and I'll tell if it's good to go. I'm the editor, I'm everything, bro. So, yeah, but it's just a shame that we live in a world where they tell you, oh, let people talk about no one wants to talk about your accolade, bro. Everyone is looking for ways to look good. You think a guy will just randomly go to a chick you're talking to, I'll go, ah, let me stop for a minute. You see, this top guy, he's the nah, nah. My man wants to be big dub too. So go and talk your say, listen, babe, listen, man. I've got two cars, landed properties everywhere. What talk your stuff? And if it's a lie, hey, just keep going. Guy, you like my man. Ah, you see, you see, this is what I'm saying. You see, this guy I'm using as an example. Oh my god, this is the guy that likes my mother.

SPEAKER_04 49:01

Oh, it's the guy that likes my mother. Solve me.

SPEAKER_03 49:32

So so so that means that you you support the run that Omale have been this last couple of weeks, where every interview he's saying that he's the he's the best, he's this, he's gonna be the wealthiest um African artist ever. Blah blah blah blah boom. Like my man.

SPEAKER_04 49:56

Okay, guys. I want us to draw a line. I thought he doesn't send it. I thought he doesn't send a video.

SPEAKER_03 50:05

Mamma can be killed and saying that he would that he's gonna be the wealthiest African artist ever, yeah. That there's nobody like him, bro. Mamma won enough, bruv. He won the map. So you're saying, yeah, that you are for all that.

SPEAKER_02 50:23

Yeah, no, okay. Bigging up yourself, like someone like a burner boy, like I said earlier, guys. Yeah, talk about your own accolades, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. This day, and back it up. Yeah, now Omale is delusional, yeah. So Omale is saying things like, I'm the best. Okay, prove it. Burner Boy can say he's the best, and he will bring, look, he's got a rap sheet. We can see it. Omale is still kind of new.

SPEAKER_19 50:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 50:50

Do you get it? I okay. No, I'm just trying to say that in general, we're not saying don't big up again. If you notice, Omale don't just big up himself, he has to involve other people. I just said that you shouldn't involve other people. I'm the best in 20 years. Uh-uh, if it involved someone else. He didn't really involve anyone, he didn't mention anybody's name, bro. If you say to me you're the greatest in the last 20 years, what does that mean, bro? I'm the greatest in the last 20 years. Okay, and that 20 years you've only you've lived on earth. It doesn't matter. It does matter. I'm talking about myself. Okay, but we are talking about yourself with a tone of involving you're involving someone, regardless if you don't mention names. If you say, look at I'm the I'm the greatest to ever make this style of music, I'm the greatest to ever do it the way I'm doing, and you're talking about your own accolade, just you and what you've achieved, is so much different from saying none of these guys can do it on my level. It did Omale no say that or not? He said it. He said, Maybe only Burner Boy. Do you see what I'm saying? So there's always his one that's got like a a comma. That's the problem with my again. That's my own issue.

SPEAKER_03 51:57

I used to be on the same side as you. I used to be on the same side as you, but then I believe it was the the extra, I believe extra music fm, something like that. Capital Extra. No, not even the Capitol Estra one, the latest one that he just did. Oh my. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 52:13

Yeah, it's Capito Extra, you know.

SPEAKER_03 52:14

Is it?

SPEAKER_02 52:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 52:16

No, Kiss Estra.

SPEAKER_02 52:17

Oh, is it Kiss Extra?

SPEAKER_03 52:18

Oh yeah, Kiss Estra and everything. Yeah. So I used to be on the same side as you when it came to Amale, right? You know, about yo, this guy is sounding crazy and everything. Yeah. Yeah. Until when I listened to him on the Kiss Estra um interview, and I felt a bit of a compassion and I understood where he was coming from. I believe all these things that he's saying, yeah, is a way of him putting confidence in himself. Yes, right, absolutely. And also speaking it into existence because he said for a very long time he had to deal with um um what's the word? Self-esteem, self-esteem issues and all this kind of shit. You go what I'm saying, which made me feel bad because if you're dealing with all that, yeah, and one of the things that you have to do for your career to obviously go up will be to stand in front of a hundreds or thousands of people on stage, that must be a lot. You go what I'm saying, and then obviously you go do interviews and everything. You're traveling to you know all these different countries and all that, right? Coming from where you come from, your English might not be, you know, all polished and everything, right? Now you're stepping into these rooms, everybody's looking at you like, okay, let's hear what this person's gonna say, type thing, right? I can understand that depression and all that, but then I think there was a switch in the last year, two years, but recently that made him feel like you know what, I've got to big up myself. Yeah, yes, I might be sounding crazy because he sounds crazy. You know what I mean? Like, like he sounds crazy when another when when you listen to Ray, another person listen to be like, yo, fam, like what the fuck? You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 54:02

I think he sounds he sounds delusional. There's a difference between being crazy, okay, cool, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_03 54:07

You know, but I can understand where he's coming from. I think that's his way of telling himself of giving yourself confidence, yeah. But now this is instead of looking in the mirror in your house all by yourself and saying, Yo, I'm him, right? You're now having to say on the radio station type thing, you get what I'm saying, and everybody's looking like yo, what the fuck? You know, because in my opinion, I like that, I like that he's doing that, but then also I feel like it also takes away a little bit from the music in the long run, in the short while. Obviously, if you hear it for the first time, you're like, yo, who the fuck is this guy? Let me go check his music out and everything. Cool. But at some time, it becomes a bit gimmicky, right? That everyone talks about him and not his music, and that's my point.

SPEAKER_02 54:57

Finally, you get my point finally with that, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 54:59

Yeah, you got me annoying his music, and so sometimes I kind of feel, and then the media. This is the dark side of media, the media is gonna play into that role. Like um Keysra did. You got me? Like they did, and that was so no Key Sexra did not either.

SPEAKER_02 55:20

Yeah, they didn't know. No, it's the people that got the clips that did what they did. You know, are you sure it wasn't the radio station that did it? No, the radio station has played the full clip. What the whoever got the first, you know, these guys are looking for ways to monetize and stuff like that. What they've done, they've done a jump cut.

SPEAKER_03 55:35

So, just before we continue, for people that don't know what we're talking about, right? The last couple weeks, you know, Omary have been in some interviews, and people expected him to beat up Davido, right? Because obviously the new song that they had with you, right? That song was nominated for the Grammys and everything. So everyone was thinking, yo, like your first time being at the Grammys was because you collaborated with Davido, right? Or rather, Davido. We expect you to show him some respect, but Mama was bigging up Bonaboy and everything, right? So a lot of people saw it as a sly towards Davido. So now he did this interview with um Kiss Estra, where the clip came out where the interviewer said, Who are your idols that you looked up to and everything? Yeah, and Omale was naming all his idols, you know, Drake, this, that, Bonner Boy, Whiskey, and everything. But actually, I believe the second or the third name that he called was Davido. Yeah, but whoever clipped it clipped out Davido's name. Yep, you go I mean, and that shit went fucking viral. Which I called you. If you remember, I called you. I said, bro, what the fuck is going on? Like I heard that, yeah. I said I was gonna come to the podcast and talk about this shit. Yeah, you go I mean, because I've got my opinions, which I which I'm still gonna say, right? But then a new clip now came out, and obviously he mentioned Davido in the clip. Yeah, so whoever did that, the clippers and everything, yeah. I understand the whole trying to go viral or media or media games and everything, yeah, but that's so dark, right? That's so dark. And it made me appreciate the fact, yeah, because people always criticize people like Drake or people like Jay-Z, right? Because they want to have control of the interview. Like Drake's not gonna sit down with you if he doesn't have control of the interview. Jay-Z the same way, yeah. Sometimes I hear it when artists want to do that. Because imagine someone like Omale sitting down talking to this radio station, waking up the next day, see everything online, putting out what he did not say or what he did not do in regards to the whole not not talking about Davido and everything, yeah, or bigging Davido up. He will feel a type of way about that. How can you feel a type of way when Kiss Extra No, no, but but people saw the first one that was clipped before the Kiss Extra one.

SPEAKER_02 58:15

Yeah, no, but that's what I'm trying to say. That Kiss Extra would know that, oh, yeah, that's not what we put out. Even Omale wouldn't know that's not what we put out.

SPEAKER_03 58:24

Yeah, but Omale, but Omale hearing that, or rather, Omale hearing that on the internet or seeing the clip go around, yeah. Knowing that I mentioned David.

SPEAKER_02 58:34

Yeah, he knows straight away it was nothing to do with Kiss Extra. He knows that it's those clippers trying to make money and go viral. Like he's not stupid, he already knows that. That's what I'm trying to say. So his anger is gonna go, it's gonna be towards the unknown brother that's clipping, or the whatever website or profile or handle. That's what it is. So that's what I'm saying. That for me, anyway, Omalay and all these guys, they always get to watch the watch the unpublished interview first, anyway, before the team goes, Oh, yeah, we're good to go. Yeah, yeah. Most of all of them, I I've done so many, so many interviews, and a lot of times I'm like, Oh bro, just send me the unpublished, let's watch it, and then my team will say if it's a go. And I'm like, brother, we didn't say anything crazy.

SPEAKER_03 59:14

Because bro, I'm not gonna lie to you. Yeah, when I first saw that clip, yeah, I was ready to come in.

SPEAKER_02 59:18

I knew it was a it was edited.

SPEAKER_03 59:20

Bro, I was ready to come here, which I told you on the phone, and I I was ready to come in here and dog power my man and everything. Because listen, listen, I'll be honest with you, man, out there. Yeah, I know that it is a common thing, you know, to joke on Davido and crack jokes on man and everything, or downplay my man's achievement. Yeah, bro, fam. In my opinion, nobody in this culture, maybe one or two people, namely Don Jazzi and Olami Le, yeah, have done have done remarkable things for this culture, Dan Davido. I'm telling you, you know what I mean? The people that he has shown the light on, the people that he has brought into the limelight, the people that he has brought around him, his handouts, all those sort of things. I know that people might call it him being political and everything, yeah, but he didn't have to do it. You dig my point? He didn't have to do it, bro. This guy didn't have any business sitting down with Portable. He almost did a song with Portable until whatever happened behind the scene and everything, bro. You got what I'm saying? Like, he didn't fucking have to do it, yeah. Katefe. Katefe, bro, whether he goes on that stream or not, yeah, he didn't have to do it. I know that people might say it is being been political and everything, right? But also he didn't have to do it. Like the people that he has shown love to, yeah, that gained in that relationship more than he did. You know what I'm saying? Nobody else does it. Whiskey Katefer D did a song for Whiskey, mashallah, mashallah, mashallah, mashallah. Bro, me apparently, whiskey don't even give my man no fucking face.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:08

No, that's not true because I remember that yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:10

Well, well, whiskey in here, yeah. Cool. I'm talking about what Katefe said, whatever. You go what I'm saying? I I wasn't there. No one should listen to Katef. You get me like I wasn't there, but my point is Whiskey is very selective with the people he hangs around with, and there's nothing wrong with it. I'm not criticizing him for that. You know what I'm saying? Bonaboy the same. You got what I mean? Ashake, you might not even see him. Yeah, Times don't even send you guys. You got what I'm saying? Remar sometimes, Irestar sometimes, but the guy who's really outside, yeah, give him back. He could have been claiming superstar hanging out in America and shit. It's Davido, right? So, yes, some people might crack jokes and all that kind of shit. It's funny sometimes, right? Sometimes he he's even the one that kind of put himself in that situation. I get it, but bro, people gotta put some respect on my man's name, though.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:06

No, that's facts. Absolutely. When it comes to you know, respect and giving credit to someone, David O's number one on the list. But hey, let's not do this whole oh yeah, he's doing this, giving back, brother. These guys are here hungry for the limelight, these guys are here hungry for the validation. Uh, I told you 2020, I'm gonna tell the truth. David Doe needs to do a lot of the things he's doing. Yay, I'm an artist, so I have to stay on bro. My name has to be in the algorithm in the algorithm. I it it needs to, whether he benefits or not, he has to. You see that whole idea of do you know who's benefited more from the whole Kata F stream to the world? Yes, Kata F has benefited more. That's to the world, monetary side, financial side. But guess who has gained a lot in his cache? David O. How? Because from years to come, people would always attach Qata F's rice to David O. So who is seen as the great as the greater person here? David O. The person that gives you the food that got you away from the room, take took you away from outside and made you home, that made give you a home, is always going to get credit. That boy, he didn't have to do it. That's my point. He could do it for somebody else. No, but that's what okay. Yes, we know, but again, same thing. If he has gone ahead to do for someone else, he's still gonna get the credit. That's how the world works. As an artist, yes, if I was in his team, I'm gonna push David O to do more of these things. You don't have to, but guess who's gonna be more, who's gonna get the validation? You mate, you need to be there. We need to make sure that you're seen as you're doing this. It's a PR move. Like, I'm so happy because everything that's happened now, every time someone talks about the situation, whose name pops up? Davido. When Kata FA is talking to another artist saying, Man, now, and anytime I play David O's song, again, that name, David O. So that's my point. So it's nothing negative, nothing bad about that. It's great. As an artist, I want to be in our position to be able to say I put people on so people can always go back to my name and say, yo, let's trace it. If we if we have like if we're to track this person's progression, it comes all the way from here. Just the same way if we talk about Ashake, who do we talk about? Alamide. There you go. If we talk about the band, who do you talk about? Don't jazzy. So it's just that some artists really don't care about things like that. Somewhere like a whiz, he's selective because why he knows that my brand is important and I don't want to mix with these people. That's that's pretty much it. So, but the way we act it, like make it look like these guys are not gaining anything. You them right you're gaining something. That's the reason why you're there in the first place. Do you know what I'm saying? Again, you go into rooms to test your power. David O is an artist. Sometimes you want to test and see how good and how do you know what I mean? Don't you think, guys? You think David O didn't go home after that Kata Fe stream that happened a couple of months ago and seen what happened on the back of that and felt, yo, I'm a superstar, you know. Like, yo, I've got it, you know. Yeah, imagine what would have happened to him if he had done all of that and Qata Efe did not even nothing really changed. Bro, that would be another banter for days. So, yeah, you know what I mean. Now, if if if it was a thing where he did all he did for these people, I say, hey, don't let anyone know it's me. Uh-huh. Now we're talking.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:19

Because you don't you don't want nah, bro. We still gotta put respect for my man's name. No, you're missing what I said. I just said no, no, he did everything that you said.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:26

Shout out to David O. I'm not gonna lie, no one should talk nothing negative about Davido. Next to me, banter out outside banter, no one should say that. And I know that the joke has to run.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:36

Okay, and that's way of course, of course. Someone like uh and and and listen, and it it's not just him. Anyone can get these jokes, bruv. Uh, yeah, some people will. Anyone can no, I'm I'm talking about whether they like it or not. Anyone can do it.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:49

Yeah, but Davido is an easier, it's an easier target. And the truth is, with Omale, Omale can big up his chest as well. Because without Omale, that with you song wouldn't have banged. I don't think so. Hey, for me, it's a 7030. As much as I like that song, and I still think um Davido's verse is my favorite. You know that sweet fanta dialogue. There you go. So why so what are you trying to say? Bro, the melody, the curation of that song. Come on, it's on my lane, man. Like, no, again, we make things look like it's a bad thing. It's fine, bro. You see how this setup is? It's Tobes is set up. Not lie.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:27

Not lie. For me, I would never shy away from giving credit to people. Not lie. Hey, remember, if we come together to make food, right? And you put two two two teaspoons of salt, and I put maybe just I don't know. I don't know, crayfit, something. And we clearly can see that it was that amount of salt that you put in that made the food taste it. Brother, it's you.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:50

Sweet fantada. Yellow.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:51

That's it. I'll never forget you. Do you get it? But we know without Omale or that song, guys. We know how that song would have turned off. That bro, I'm not gonna lie. It's getting bro. Omale, Omale, Omale. You smashed it, bro. Smashed it. Um now try one day, guys. Take do and to do this, yeah. Go and take out Omale's um what's it called, verse and stuff, and you see that. Oh, yeah. You in life we need that collaboration that we can all come together and make sense of something. Without Omale on that song, the song would have been okay, bro. If Omale took it to another stratosphere, bro, and shout to him, bro.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:40

Fuck all this, bruv. Fuck all this. Was Omale, yeah, banging his manager, bro? Oh, I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:54

Listen, fuck all this shit that we're talking about, music and everything.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:59

Says the guy that said I like woman. Look, look at when he's look at when he gonna go hangball.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:03

Look how women's gonna go hang the you see. So he does like so.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:21

Oh, listen. Was a mallet piping his manager buzz the plug, bro? Fuck all this shit, bro. For was he? Alright, listen. I had to do one plus one um equals to four. You get me?

SPEAKER_02 1:08:33

Is she still the manager?

SPEAKER_03 1:08:35

No.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:35

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:36

They fell out. Yeah, let me put this together for you, cuz. Let me put this together for you. Yeah, so this was the interview that he did with Capital um X R right?

SPEAKER_14 1:08:53

Check it out. Oh, with you, we saw you at the wards and thing. How was that experience for you?

SPEAKER_15 1:08:59

I I had a major breakup at the inside when inside of the Grammy, you know? Like with the missus? Yeah, yeah. Like I've been in this relationship that I really thought that it was gonna be this was gonna be it, you know.

SPEAKER_14 1:09:10

Ah, brother, I'm trying to tell you. I was just trying to imagine the scenario. So it's Grammy, Grammy, no means of what? You could have won. And then why fee is just it was a moment for me.

SPEAKER_15 1:09:20

I was I was really lost there. I was really lost. Uh while Justin Bieber was performing, I was having my own show right inside the thing. And so like, yeah, and it's like the whole it was kind of embarrassing for a moment, but um, yeah, I I didn't win the Grammy, and I also girl, girl. Yeah, but I mean a win is a win. I got nominated, and like I was there.

SPEAKER_14 1:09:43

So you won, don't watch nothing. We won, we won. Does that explain why you shaved the head though? What happened was I tell you the truth.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:50

The truth about so you heard that, yeah? Guess who um the people that unfollowed each other? So you guys still do this on follow thing, yes. We see it. Yeah, we see it. Guess who did not post his album when his album came out?

SPEAKER_02 1:10:11

Um the manager, yeah. Oh, okay. Managers don't really post the album. Bullshit.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:16

Let's let's not let's not add. Let's not add.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:18

I can mention man so many.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:20

Yeah, no, true, but let's not add. She always was posting mama and shit. Oh, that's what it is. The week you and everything. She was posting, she's everywhere. You get me, the body everywhere together. Omale used to have her photos on on his Instagram and all that shit, deleted all that shit, right? But them on follow each other and everything. Um, she she did not even post mama and shit, like none of that. Clearly, the body don't fuck with each other and everything. Yeah, nobody knew it. Has been swelling for time, it has been swelling for time, yeah. That there was something going on and all that, yeah. Okay, I'm just trying to see how much it was swelling. There you go. The news has been there that yo, something is going on here and everything, yeah. Because some of their photos was a bit. You get what I'm saying? Um so I'm guys, I'm so happy I don't know this. I am so happy that I knew this. I'm so happy. But I said, hmm, you've been in this so-called relationship this whole time.

SPEAKER_19 1:11:20

Detective Tobes.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:21

Yes, brother. I like that. He gave me Sherlock Holmes. Wow, Toby Holmes, Sherlock Tomes. Toby Holmes and I have it. I said, bro, but that leads me to my conclusion.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:37

Talk to them, brother. Talk to them, brother, talk to them, talk to them.

SPEAKER_19 1:11:43

Ah, I love that.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:50

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:52

Bro, I have this thing, yeah. I haven't saying in my head. By myself saying that, yeah. All these artists that have rushed to America to get get themselves, there's mixed race, white chicks, as managers in share. Yeah, because they looked at whiskey, you go me. They are piping all these chicks, bruv.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:21

I disagree. I'm a fumble. I disagree, strongly disagree. I disagree. This is a professional relationship. Of course it is, bro.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:48

They run to America and everything. Respectfully, they run to the American once they get money, and they be number five. The run to America number that, yeah. And then they get foreign managers, and gonna get the foreign managers and everything. None of them managers are ugly, bro. All of them are sexy as hell, bro.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:02

You gotta make hot, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:04

Then you see the half of these chicks, yeah, probably didn't know a lick about Afrobeats before never feel them do, bro. But listen, they just saw this African guy who's got a bit of money, right? And who probably treats them good and all that shit. They're like claiming manager and everything. Everybody looked at Whiskey and saw whiskey with JDP respectfully because that's the missus and everything.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:33

And they saw how he's trading.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:34

You get what I'm saying? And all of them want to do that, bro. You get me, go, go punish a lot for that, bro. You guys, all of you will get exposed.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:41

We're not gonna cover, bro. I'm not gonna lie, it's it's obviously a good strategy if you of course if it's worked, because remember, if you get a manager, I still, if I was an artist, I still would think the the brother or the sister in Nigeria, born in Nigeria, and we hustled together is the best bet. But I understand why these guys will opt for a foreign manager because they see it as that foreign, the foreign art foreign manager would have so many access to different rooms.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:10

No, I no, no, no. Yes, yeah, even apart from the access, right? But you need a mind that can articulate themselves, right? Respectfully, you know, coming from where we come from, yeah, yeah. A lot of them obviously know how to speak English, their accent might be different. Okay, you know what I'm saying? And coming from where people come from, if that person is not overly exposed, right? The person might be intimidated in some rooms, self-consciousness, and everything. But if you get someone who's from the West, quote unquote, whether they have the experience or not, they look good. That's a reason why all of them look good. It's just like air hostesses.

SPEAKER_19 1:14:45

You got me?

SPEAKER_02 1:14:46

There's a pushback from me there because articulation is not in what you say, it's in how you say it. So there's a way I can say too, I can walk in a room and go, oh man, I'm so hungry. Do you guys have anything for me to eat? Or I can go into a place and go, man, I haven't eaten for a long while. See, it's just in how you say stuff, and I think I think what's really, really ruined the industry in a sense. Again, I won't when I'm saying ruin, I'm obviously that's like uh hyperbole, it's a hyperbole, it's not really ruin, but to an extent, is the fact that we see the Western people or people from the West as oh, these guys are better than us. They're not because articulation is if you know Afrobeats so well, you know you can sell it to the guy that knows nothing about Afrobeats, you know that, right? And that's the problem here just the same way that we have our 419 brothers. How do you sell these things to these people that so much so they're buying into this Yahoo Yahoo idea? It's your articulation in how you sell this stuff. Your accent is different. These guys on the phone have got the same accents that we are hearing from this Nigerian, and still this, and they're still selling these things to these people, so fuck all this shit, bro.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:52

I will say the truth about what I'm saying right now, yeah?

SPEAKER_02 1:15:55

Okay, let's see.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:56

Let me let me hear you now. Yeah, half of these people, half of these so-called managers are there, respectfully. Yeah, you talk about the Nigerian ones. No, oh, sorry, good. I'm talking about when these artists go and get foreign quote unquote foreign chicks and everything, right? Yeah, coincidentally, they are all mixed race or why, they are all sexy as fuck, right? Pretty girls and everything, respectfully, no, no disrespect, right? It brings back my experience, yeah. When I was with Selfridges back in the day, back in the day, yeah, yeah. When you go to um, they call them um self-shoppers, shoppers, yeah, yeah, there are a caliber of chicks that they get, of course. It has to be very beautiful, slim, sexy type of girls, or it has to be a good-looking gay man. Bottle boys and bottle girls, you go what I'm saying, right? When you go into first class and everything, that's a typical type of girl, yeah. Aesthetic, right? Aesthetics and everything, yeah. That is what these people are doing with these managers that they are picking up and everything, bro. Exactly. Half of these managers don't know a lick about Afrobeats, and that's the reason why you should stick to the guys in Nigeria.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:13

Good. I agree with you, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:14

But the reason why they are going with these chicks, yeah, is these chicks are not going in there. Now, I'm not saying that they don't have the experience, obviously, eventually doing it. Yes, you're gonna get the experience and all that kind of shit, right? But first of all, when they walk into some of those rooms dressing the way they are dressed and everything, they woo those people. Okay, you go, I mean, because of how they look and everything. Now, by the time they open their mouth and whatever their demand might be, you right? Most likely they might get it. You got what I'm saying, but that's because you are sitting some some of these middle-age old gittix nerds that are in the music industry running it, wherever the case, they are looking at this very beautiful girl, and they're like, shit, you got what I'm saying? Like, am I, you know what I'm saying? Okay, all right, what do you want? You know, how can we do this and everything? Being all nice and everything. You got what I'm saying? That's a reason why the only person that, and I might be wrong, that has a male manager is probably Davido. You get what I'm saying? But half of those people went and got themselves very pretty, light skin or white, sexy, I think it's a handful of I'm trying to be fair here.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:20

It's a handful of people. The only two people that I'm really aware that obviously, now I'm just hearing on my late. The only one I know very much, so of course, the Alex um woman is um Ashake. Uh-huh. Allow me this manager is male, Nigerian.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:34

Big because he's married.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:36

No, it's not because he's even married. Because he's married, nah, bro. It's not because he's married, but um, thing is uh manager, I think, Remus manager, probably. I think, I think I might be wrong. If I'm wrong, please correct me. But from what I know, Mel Nigerian. Uh, what's his name? Um Thames' manager. You already know who Thames' manager is. Uh Davido's manager, you all know who that is. Uh outside Whisked and Ashak that I knew beforehand. I didn't even know about so you don't know who the girl is? Or my late manager, or ex-manager, back? Yeah, no, no, no. I know of, I didn't even know she was the manager. I didn't even know I didn't know. I just thought that were like close associates, uh, people that work together. I thought the do you know what I'm saying? So again, if we're being real, the industry exactly. I know forget, you know, yeah, zina, boozer, booza, booza, boozer. But the truth is, honestly, if we're being real, we've got more Nigerians managing than not, which I'm happy about. So if I'm being fair, I just uh yeah, two percent. Um that's a very low percent percentage. Shout out to all my brothers doing their thing. The managers are not the yeah, they're not your uh obvious in context to what we're saying, they're not your aesthetically women, da da da. There's only two people doing it. Well, nah at the moment, just one. Yeah, if we're being real. But if we look at the top 10 artists, if you mention an artist, I'll say I could tell maybe the manager is definitely a male or female, of they're not of the same same ilk as what we're talking about. So, which uh again, I think is a good thing. I just feel like the video has shown people the way, get a guy that knows the industry, get a guy that knows um people in the in this in that industry, the Afrobeats industry, get a guy that can actually articulate what his or her artist needs, and that's it. Because these other guys are looking to you for guidance. I'm talking about the guys in the rooms of the UMG rooms, of the what's it called, empire rooms. They don't know nothing about the industry. Actually, they want you to sell them a dream, and the dream could be hey guys, there's this you know, this yeah, I think we need to take advantage of the you know the numbers in Nigeria, you know, the stream, blah blah blah. That's what it is, you know. It works if your manager is beautiful. I guess it will work to an extent because that's life, mate. People like beautiful things, you know. You know what I'm saying? So do what you gotta do. But shout out to my brothers that are still keeping it local. And please, just because I don't want you to say, Oh, I need to get an Nigerian manager. No, no, no, no, get an educated Nigerian manager, and I'm not talking academically when I say education, education in the art, in Afrobeats, in the genre. Yeah, if your manager doesn't know what song was banging in the world, and business as well, no, no, no, of course, business that comes with it because if you think about it, you can't be business savvy on something you know nothing about, you're gonna lose, bro. You could be the greatest businessman on earth. If you know nothing about Afrobeats, bro, the the sale the shape would just sail past you. Please, if your manager doesn't know the the bangers in 2000s, um, early mid, and he doesn't know what the culture was like, there's a chance now a lot of things are gonna get past because why he wouldn't know that yo, we need to target this this market now because I can see the same, you know, there were signs in early 2006 and we missed it. Now we don't want you to miss it. Like just knowing the you know, so I mean, employ people like mys myself. Yeah, yeah. Oh no, no, I'm not marketing myself. No, no, no. No, I'm not marketing myself. Shout out to all the magicers, though. I'm no, I'm no, I'm just looking at you. I'm letting you know that I can I could be your Alex, I could be your master blog. For real though, imagine we have managers that really and truly want to tell the truth.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:39

Hold on, hold on. Yeah, bro. You said you can be. Listen, listen, let it go. Wait, brother, brother. Wait, you say you can be your Alex and you can be your bad floor. Wait, what client are you still what client are you?

SPEAKER_02 1:22:52

No, I'm talking about the female artist. Do you get it? Oh the female artist, so I'll be there. Okay. Oh god, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:00

I wanted to find out what are we doing?

SPEAKER_02 1:23:01

Yeah, okay, okay, okay. So it's like you think you think a grown man like me.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:07

Hey, listen, hey, listen, we just never know these days, bruh. Listen, hey, we don't know. You gotta be weird wonder shall never end. We don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:17

Let me just say there's nothing wrong in you wanting to pluck the plot. You do that let me just make something clear. Let's clear the bag for the female artist.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:39

This guy's gonna be a good thing. I heard what you said at the point of the are you available? Are you available?

SPEAKER_02 1:24:00

Can you be my master?

SPEAKER_04 1:24:06

Listen, shot to the bro.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:11

You were talking about the whole um beauty privilege thing and everything. Yeah, man. Did you see that clip of Davy Hayes?

SPEAKER_02 1:24:19

Oh, brother.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:21

The one on ITV.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:23

Oh my days, thank you. I'm so happy you brought that up. You know why? Let me play it. No, before you even bring it up, so people have a context. I'm not gonna talk about what it is, but I wanted the clip to actually do the talking. You know what I'm saying? Guys, this is what articulation means, bro. Play the tape, please.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:40

I'm I'm gonna find it right now. I'm playing it.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:41

You'll see that this is what I'm saying about is the way you say things. Articulation is not what you say, but go on. Let's do it.

SPEAKER_12 1:24:49

Ugly girls have better personalities than traditionally beautiful supermodels. Do you understand why people are so offended by Because they want to get offended. Everyone's looking for something to be offended.

SPEAKER_13 1:24:59

I think I think there is Who's offended by what I said there? Well, okay.

SPEAKER_12 1:25:02

Is it pretty girls, ugly girls, who? Here you go. So this is Emily Baker in the eye paper. One of the most sexist, misogynistic, not to mention utterly banana comments I've ever heard. Julie Bindle from The Sun, they were deeply offensive and old-fashioned, our very own Ashley James. It's not banter, it's a belief system that needs unpacking. When it's stripped back, he's saying women's personality is a consolation prize for not being beautiful to me.

SPEAKER_13 1:25:22

No, I'm saying if you get uh a hundred beautiful girls, a hundred ugly girls, put them in the dark, the ugly girls will have a better personality because they've had to develop it through necessity. Because I'm saying girls who get everything who are beautiful from day one don't have to develop their personality in general because they can get by in life, flying on private jets, getting everything for free. Uglier girls have to have the personality. But who made you the arbiter of what's beautiful and what's ugly? I'm not the arbitrary, I'm saying, in my opinion, the beautiful girls that I see usually have terrible personalities where uglier girls, fat girls, have much better personalities, more bubbly personalities.

SPEAKER_12 1:25:58

You have to understand that that that that sort of the that that that idea of what you're suggesting, the image of what you're suggesting, we have shifted so far. But it's the reality. We have reality. You've got a daughter, you've got a 15-year-old, nearly 16-year-old daughter. Uh, how would you feel if there is somebody judging her in a similar way?

SPEAKER_13 1:26:16

I'm not judging any specific person, I'm just telling you, in my experience, girls, all these supermodel girls, they've got no personality, or the chances of them having it. So I've luckily found a girl who I find a supermodel, in my opinion, and she's got and she's got the personality of someone who wasn't beautiful, hasn't had all the doors open for her whole life. So it's like a double win. It's not Glee Duckin's drummer, it's an actual thing. And so many people have commented and said, You're so right, David, you are right, but it's not politically correct to say it. As you said, you read re-read through the papers, that's terrible. It's the truth. Most beautiful girls don't need to have the. I appreciate though that though the comments are will be offensive to some people. Everything's offensive to people. You can't, if you try and keep everyone happy, you don't say a word. You have to keep it real sometimes. I like to I just say it how I see it, and you're right, it's not it's not for ITV, it's not for all the but it's the truth, and I get so much feedback saying, Yeah, Dave, it's finally nice to hear someone actually telling the truth. Maybe that's just my demographic, maybe that's a sporting demographic who actually understands the working class people like, yeah, of course. You get a supermodel walking, but what what life experience has she really had versus someone who's had to Yeah, bro?

SPEAKER_02 1:27:23

Let me just say this quickly, right? This is what I'm saying about articulation, right? I don't I don't necessarily disagree with the concept. You know, when a man or woman is talking, sometimes when they're saying something, they might not say it the way you want to hear it, but you s like you can see the brain and what they're trying to say, the intention behind it and what the message you're trying to convey is what people should hold on to. Now, here we're shooting the messenger. The message actually is how the world actually runs. Yeah, the world runs based on aesthetics, yeah. The world runs based on gloss, especially in the West, in the everywhere in the world, in Nigeria right now. The world runs in in Africa, every part of the world, it runs based on aesthetics. The same way Apple was about was so very successful in pushing the product was just based on aesthetics. Yeah, the brand, the glossiness, the premiumness. Bro, so when when he's saying things like this, it's absolutely, absolutely unfortunately true. It happens to men. And I've realized something. When women are saying, not all women, of course, when some women are saying things about men, in a sense, when they say, Oh, I don't want to deal with or broke, whatever they're saying. People watch them go, oh everyone, it's no one, it's not, it's not, it's not the end of the world. Now, when a man says things like this, you're like, Oh, he's such a misogynistic, da-da-da-da-da. Which it's it can come across. He did come across like very because of his tone, it was a bit aggressive, so it looked and it sounded misogynist.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:52

I think he was just trying to pass his point across because the other man, yeah, the other man, and this is he has to do his job. Like the other man has to do his job, obviously, trying to be like, oh my god, like so. He had to come across that way, yeah, to put his his point across.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:04

He's defending because the woman and next to him. The woman is not saying anything. The woman was laughing because if she's because she knows that he's right. No, she not that she knows that she's she's right. She's playing, which, and this is the thing about the British culture. We don't like people that are straight, straight straight shooters. You can't be straight shooter, you can't be straight to the point. No, you can't. You must be honest, but your honesty has to be coated, it has to be sugar-coated. You know what I'm saying? You have to eat through the corners before you get to the meat and potatoes, you have to do all of that. Why other countries and other people like in America and other other parts of the world, that's how it they just shoot, and that's where the problem lies. Now, the truth is, if you notice, again, I can use football as an analogy because that's something a sport that is very, very popular. If you get a player that's played grassroots level, grassroots level, and it's moved up the ranks, moved up, the ranks, moved up, right, and gets to the Premier League. Watch how they play football, they're very like, whoo, oh, they play like their life depends on it. Now, if you get a kid that's just made it from the age of eight, was put into the academy level, which means let's say he's joined the academy at Chelsea or Arsenal, he's pampered, he's used to the fine things of life, the grass, everything is done. All his life he was driven to the um center, and you know what I mean? He doesn't understand, like, he's not street smart in comparison to the guy that had to like grassroots level. Look, if you look at Semenio, the way Semenio plays for Man City, great aggression. He's like, I wouldn't, yeah, and then you look at someone like a foldin, very nice and very sexy, uh, keep it cute, uh passing through the gaps, all of that stuff, which is still beautiful to watch. That's exactly how the world works. The woman that's all her life, like you hear some women say, I'll be I was bullied when I was in secondary school. Now that they glowed up, quotation marks, brother, they move mad and wicked. Yeah, the woman that actually all her life was just not really admired by a lot of people or desired by a lot of people and just kept it moving, kept it cool, even till an adult age, not still really desired and stuff like that. Watch how they are, they're very smart when they talk to you. That personality is gold, bro. Forget personality, like they will wait for you to talk, and they'll talk. You like everything because they know I'm being judged based on how I am as a person, not my bomb bomb. Then then you see the ones that are give it.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:22

Hey, hey, oh lord, so entitled that they you owe them, you owe them something without even knowing who they are.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:29

Brother, they'll sit there like this, you're cracking the best jokes, they're just there. They've got options, they know this. So if you don't, if you don't do it for them, Mr. X, they will do it for them. So, what do they they don't need to work hard? That's what David Hay was trying to say. But he was saying in such a way that uh even me too, I'm like this mechanic, the way he's charging the car. You gotta you gotta make a yeah, it's gonna be difficult. So, um, in situations like that, you need to then understand that yeah. I think I need to answer the door and everything, bro. Or do you want to do it?

SPEAKER_03 1:32:03

Yeah, yeah, I can't go. I can't do it. Yeah, let's go. Sorry about that. We had a little before somebody rang the bell, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:11

Trying to come into the studio, you know. At the moment, this is the studio. But yeah, just um in closing, in closing, on my own my opinion about the situation is the fact that we we like to pretend that these things don't exist, but they do exist, you know. I mean, they do, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03 1:32:29

So even on the male side as well, yeah. You get me. If you see a guy who's been an athlete all his life, tall, six foot five, whatever, basketball player, built, and everything, what do you think is gonna happen? He doesn't talk. You get me? He doesn't need to work on his personality, he doesn't need to even talk. You get me? Like when I was in uni and everything, I remember back then the politician kids and everything. Yeah, they're having their way through the checks.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:52

Yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:53

You get me? Got punished if you come from a poor family. Yeah, you have to grind. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:58

No, it's facts, man. That's how it works. If you for the male side, if you have the money, you just stay next to your car, for instance, or you be in if you're a guy that goes to the club, you just be in your own booth. You know what I mean? They things, they're signs, they're like ways you move and signals, yeah, bro. Mad, crazy signals are there, bro. Crazy, tangible. Um, what's it called? Tangible pointers to show that hey guys, I'm different to Mr. X or Mr. B, Mr. C. So uh, bro, I know he he sounded mad with how his tone his delivery was what I don't think he sounded mad. I don't I I just kind of he was trying to put his point across. No, his delivery is crazy in this era. That's what I'm trying to say. So there are words that trigger words you can't use, you can't use the F-A-T word.

SPEAKER_03 1:33:42

Yeah, is it his delivery, or is it just that this uh this era is so sensitive?

SPEAKER_02 1:33:48

I promise you, it's his delivery. This is what I'm saying is the British way. If he had gone. I know, I know, I know he's the delivery.

SPEAKER_03 1:33:54

I know, but but the thing is, I'm not gonna lie, you know, we came from that era, you got it. Yeah, I'm cool with it. I know what he's trying to say. Like, I'm cool with it, you know what I'm saying? But the thing is, it's just just watching the outrage sometimes. I'm not thinking, bro, we live in different times right now, bro.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:08

You know what? It's crazy. I'm so happy today. During the because obviously, you know, as a football coach, I had like a an argument with the coach, yeah, and people were scared like it's gonna turn mad. But no, this is what I said it's playing, we're playing it, we're playing a game. Now, I don't have I'll be honest with you, pretty much don't have the full squad, so cool. Yeah. So I was speaking to my teammate, I was speaking to my team, and I was speaking to the subbench saying, uh oh man, this wouldn't be happening if I had the full squad. So I'm speaking to them and they understand where I'm coming from, you know, making them feel like yo, this is the reason why sometimes you're not gonna get game time because you're not proving or you're not showing yourself, you know, coming to the um to the fray as I'm a contender for opposition. Like, yo, you know what I'm saying? And I was speaking to that, and the guy's like, yo, man, don't say that, bro. I was like, bro, who you talking to? Are you mad? Are you crazy? Like, this has nothing to do with you as my team. Say, yo, bro, but you're trying to don't talk. I said, bro, I dare you to say that again. Now he turned to me, I'm like, Oh, what do you mean? Are you five? Back in the days, I dare you don't mean much, really. Is saying, yo, since you're a man, gone. If you think what you're saying, yo, you believe in what you're saying, say it again. Yeah, yeah. Now it's like, oh, it's very aggressive. What? Do you know what I'm saying? So times have changed. Do you know what I'm saying? So it's like in life, you have to understand that sometimes your delivery and what you say, your tone, that's what people go by. Because I can come in here and go, Yo, what's popping, Tobes? And some people look at me like, what's wrong with this guy? Is he trying to do this? Or if I go, Oh, what's up, Tobes? They'll be like, Oh, he's so gentle, huh? Yeah, it's mad. How do you know I'm gentle? I might be hungry walking in there, and I have no anything. I'm almost dying, bro. I need some food. You know what I mean? Shout out to David Hay though.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:55

Listen, shout out to my man still, but but bro, you talked about football, though. You see what's going on with Premier League right now, bro.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:03

Where did I? Oh no, no, no, bro. You see what's going on with Premier League. I've been telling this guy football, I'm so happy that Arsenal is not winning it. He goes, No, bro, they're gonna win this, they're gonna win that.

SPEAKER_19 1:36:12

Okay, bro. Fucking hell. I'm so happy.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:18

Listen, the last game that they played and everything, yeah. I'm not gonna lie. I thought that obviously Arsenal threw everything at them and everything, yeah. Missed some very good chances, though. No, they didn't play bad. You get me? Like they played well, but but I thought that that was what's gonna happen because football is winch, right?

SPEAKER_19 1:36:33

Like Premier League, bro, we're winch, bro.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:39

You get me because Premier League, right? You play the same team in FA or Kalinkar, you get what I mean, and play them in the Premier League, and the whole show is so different, the same pitch, everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? So I kind of knew that okay, this game is gonna be different from the the previous one. You get me, bro. As that happened, that goalkeeper, yeah. They need to investigate that guy, bro. The master keeper, bruv. You get me to see if that guy took money, honestly, because what the fuck was that?

SPEAKER_02 1:37:10

Donald Rumor was trying to do trying to re do you was trying to replay what they've done on the training ground.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:16

What the hell was that, bro? Brother, time no day, man. Five time no day. Once that happened, I said I said, There you go. Problem, bro. But then Halland, Halland, that boy. I'm just happy that you have to be humble, eh? Have to be humble, eh?

SPEAKER_02 1:37:32

Yeah, man. I'm just happy that at least we have a player like that that trolls. I love it. Him, Turkey. Oh, I love to watch Turkey. By the way, I'm a Man United fan. I have no business in praying for my city to win. I do, but you note you know one thing that every Man United, not every most Man United fans would always, always put first is the downfall of Arsenal. We cannot stand the fans. I'm a fan of Michael Ateto. I love how he coaches, I love his style, I love his philosophy. Unfortunately for him, he's got the worst fan base. Those guys are insufferable, they are the worst people you ever ever meet. If you see them on the roadside saying, Can help me water, get the pure water and do and put the setting down. I say, You go and get your water. Can't stand those guys. So I'm happy what they're dealing with right now, they're dealing with it. At the end of the day, I rather want I want Tottenham to stay up, which I believe they will. The same way I told him Arsenal wins this league. You need to understand that bro, it's not over yet, though. That Carlin Cup, yeah, sorry, I'm gonna say Carlin Cup, we're so used to that. Carabao Cup, I know, I know. Yeah, Carlin from back in the Carabao Cup was the best litmus test. You shouldn't allow Pep do that, bro. Pep is the guy that likes to do foreplay before the actual thing. Pep loves a good foreplay. You see, when his foreplay works well for Pep, you're finished. You know when they say you're finished, man. Donzo bro, cuttings that was mind games. That was the game that went Pepe. Oh, okay, cool. Because remember, the same team that beat them is that the same team that played that game. So it's just like you already know, but at the end of the day, you just knew that we need to win this game, whatever we do. Why Arsenal should have been playing for the draw? And that's what it is. They didn't play for the draw. They wanted to win that game, yeah. They wanted to win it. I'll play for the draw because I know all I need to do is here draw this game, then the remaining game will play for the win because that's a better that that man city team.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:28

Bro, listen, I was watching that game, I was so excited there. Once once I hear pee, pee, pee, he was like, Yay!

SPEAKER_04 1:39:38

I'm like, yay!

SPEAKER_03 1:39:39

Bro, I call I called my boy who lives in Houston. He's coming next week, actually. Like, he is I'm a football fan, he's a football fan, bro. This guy flies in from Houston just to come and watch Arsenal play.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:56

Oh, that's good.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:58

Listen, I love United and everything. Yeah, it's gonna take me heaven and earth to jump on the train from London to Manchester to go watch. I know I know what you mean. But this guy will fly from Houston, yeah. He's he's gonna be here next um next week.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:11

Man, yeah, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:40:12

I can't know what I'm gonna do, bro.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:14

I love football, bro. Hey, hence why I'm a football coach and I dedicate my life to it. But the point is this boys in life, never ever get gassed. Don't be talking to me about eh, we're doing the quadruple from the quadruple quadruple to quadruple, drop to double, and then drop to we are in trouble, it's going to end in more bottles. Everything just telling me from trouble now, we're bottling it as usual, and you know what's interesting? You know what? Um, one of the fans of Arsenal, Troops, yeah, yeah, no troops. So Troops' son plays, yeah. So on that Saturday, oh no, yeah, because he almost had a heart attack. Yeah, so troops, because I saw troops on that day, and you can see he was like, Oh man, I hope we don't bother tomorrow. Hey, guess what happened, guys? You know it already. They bought with it. So shout out to Arsenal, man. We'll see you guys on the bro.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:07

We'll see what happens, bro.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:08

Other side, they're about to play tonight, though, innit? Let's see what happens. Oh, yeah, yeah. They've gonna play two games now. We'll see what happens. Listen, Arsenal, if you draw or lose one game, just forget about it.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:17

All right, listen, you know what? Fuck all that, bro. Yeah, you see, all you uh gambling companies and everything, you can come and sponsor this show, man. Oh, make sure you do it. We have a football coach right here, bro.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:28

Hey, bro, listen, I'll tell you this for free. So I have a league, not league, sorry. I have uh an app, and then we'll have a code where you can join in and do predictions of games, prediction of stuff for fun. Obviously, there's no money there. So if you want to shout me and I'll send you the link, yeah. You know, I'll send you the link. I have the app, yeah. You would have to download the app anyway. It's a public app to everyone, it's not my app, it's called um Fot Mob, which is the most popular football app. They've got a little nice stuff in there where you can do predictions for the week. Me and some of my mates are doing it, it's fun. You can join in, you know what I'm saying? So, yeah, man, let's do it. Let's do it, bro.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:04

Let's let's fucking do it, man. Yeah, you get me. I can't see, I can't wait to see how this one ends. It will be so fucking interesting.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:14

You know, let me even see if they are playing anything, just to confirm. I know right now there's some games on. I just want to no, I think Arsenal's playing does even no, they're playing a five. Yeah, guess who won? I told you guys, Tottenham. I told you Tottenham right now, they are going to cook till the end. And guess who? Oh, Western one. West Ham won two one. I want West Ham to lose the next year. But my point is, I still want you guys to know that Tottenham is not getting relegated. Shout out to Tottenham still shit, bro. Obviously, I've gone invested in interest in Tottenham because you're one of my guys. Yeah, okay, okay. You see him. You see him. So the more they stay up, it does well for me. Yeah, yeah. All right then.

SPEAKER_05 1:42:54

All right then, all right then, bro.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:55

Talking about that. First of all, before I say what I want to say, yeah, one of my favorite guys to watch right now, talk sports, is is um Obi Mikhail. Bro, jokes.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:11

Jokes. Okay, I'm happy. I like the internet for this, though. Bro, jokes. You know why I like the internet for this? What is because all it takes, I hope that happens to me, hope it happens to you as well. Actually, it happens to the podcast. Yeah, all it takes is for someone to just do like a compilation of something. Some sort of clip. From the longest, the first time ever, which was a couple of the first time ever he started his pod. I was like, because I'm a football guy, so I was like, I need to watch it. I was irritated. The way John Michael O'B speaks, again, I'm not saying that's not his accent, but I can't stand it. You're not even saying it properly. My yeah, but why don't why do people have a problem with that?

SPEAKER_03 1:43:50

Like, this is the thing. The guy's been in the UK or Europe, I forgot, but in the UK for over a decade now, even more. Yes, right? You can tell, and that's the reason why when when some people come at us, or maybe me, right, about my accent and everything. Yeah, I say fine. Oh, wait, you did it? Oh, yeah, you can't. You got me like they say, oh, like you guys accent and everything, right? But the thing is, when you've lived here for a long time, but still have a very strong root from Nigeria, yeah, there is gonna be a twang in how you speak.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:24

Oh, naturally, you got what I'm saying? So I personally don't think that he's putting it on. No, no, no, we're not talking about putting it on, we're talking about the obsessive, the obsessive use of it. It's like it's now gone past you doing what you're doing.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:37

Yeah, but you gotta understand as well. You're a football guy, yeah. He he he has been around geezers and and he's been around all the time. Yeah, but that's not how they speak for a very long time.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:48

I'll tell you honest. Now I'm I'm I'm happy and I uh not that I care, but no one has ever had to say anything about my accent because they know that when I'm speaking to someone that is not of any Nigerian descent or stuff like that, I speak, I don't know how to control it. I speak like you would, yeah. I speak the way they understand. If I'm now speaking of a Nigerian or anyone of a Nigerian descent, somehow I have to find myself to I want to speak like a Nigerian. Like you kind of tone it down a little bit. Yeah, like I want I genuinely want to speak like a Nigerian. So for me, how I speak is how I speak. Like I said again, it's not like a credit, it's not there's no win in it. But now no one has ever said to me, Yo, your accent is because they already know that that's how I speak. I don't put it on, I don't have to because yeah, you know.

SPEAKER_03 1:45:34

Somebody in the comments was like, Yo, I love your something, something something fit like I love your show, I want to watch it, but your accent, um who's being for never thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:43

I read it, they were saying your accent. I was like, in my mind, I was like, okay, maybe that's the problem here. They don't know, you don't know tobes, so I can understand why you're not gonna think that I saw the comments.

SPEAKER_03 1:45:55

I don't know who put it, um, who put a comment there. Somebody said, fine, don't watch. Yeah, go. It's that simple. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 1:46:01

You know, it's really that simple. You don't have to watch. I'll tell you guys a secret. Yeah, long time before I even met Tobes. The first time I think I ever saw his clip, when I when I first watched his show, the first thing I said is I was like, Oh, yeah, this brother is Nigerian. You know why? Because you can see him in real time trying to sound like himself, but also trying to sound like Nigerians to understand him.

SPEAKER_03 1:46:27

To turn it down, turn him down. That's it. That's it because because I'm understanding a group of people that don't know. Exactly. You're doing Afrobeats, and you don't understand. Do you know someone else that does that? Madame Joyce. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Meet her in real life.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:42

Yes, yeah, yes, that's a absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 1:46:45

But on her show, you see how she trying to toning down because of the people that are watching because some people will be like, oh, we leave the Millie. Yeah, they don't, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because her show is tailored heavily to the African and also the the Nigerians in Nigeria and everything. You get what I mean. Absolutely. Unlike someone like Zizi Mills, you get what I'm saying? Like she's proper British and all that. So, you know, when I come on here and everything, obviously, I'm trying to make myself relatable to our people, have fun, crack jokes, speak pigeon, all those sort of things. And I love it.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:17

It's all the minority of people that will have an issue. That's the majority, just enjoy the show saying, yo, guys, next week make sure you're there, blah blah blah. Brother, but someone will always come on the comments, and uh, I know what to do now from now when I see comments like you know what you can just come on the show and teach us how to talk, yeah. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Set up the camera and teach us.

SPEAKER_03 1:47:41

But I'm not gonna lie, I do enjoy Peter. Um, I say Peter B. Mikelob.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:47

No, no, no, no, no. Me, I I'm not gonna lie, I'll be honest with you. The first time I saw us, I you couldn't stand it. I can't, I really can't stand. The thing is, um Mikel is is a very, very, I believe he's a nice person, but I feel like he panders too much. And the way he's doing the whole thing, like I say that for fun, and anyone that knows, even now at work, sometimes they try and copy what I say because I can say it like I'm a geezer, but I don't need to. I'm like, oh you might you know what I'm talking about, Mike. Like, there's a way you speak, you already know that this person has been there or is part of them, but this guy, man. Shout out to shout out to Mikelo B, bro. Shout out to this guy, man. I'm I'm I'm shocked that you guys just caught on, but then again, you have to be part of it's now part of pop culture, but for me watching it, and I'm not an evil, that's why I never tweeted about it or said anything because I don't like to, yeah, it's nothing.

SPEAKER_03 1:48:41

I I do enjoy, I do enjoy your show, a lot of girl lie. Yeah, but thought about that. Um another clip that's been going around is Ebu We.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:48

Oh, oh, again, that's something I didn't know about this man a long time ago. Shout out to his son, his son is a bowler, though. Yeah, his son is a bowler with Chelsea now, isn't it? Yeah, seen his son about his DJ.

SPEAKER_03 1:48:58

But the thing that broke my heart was I saw an interview that the son did for people that don't know about Ebuwe. Obviously, Ebu We Legend in his own right. He got me played for Arsenal, Galatas right, um, some other clubs as well. Yeah, did well, made a lot of money and everything. Yeah, got married to I think she's Hungarian.

SPEAKER_02 1:49:15

I think so.

SPEAKER_03 1:49:16

I think so. Whatever happened in their marriage, obviously, we don't know the full story and all that, but he didn't sign a prenup okay. Ibue walked so that my man can fly. My guy in PSG, Hakimi. Ebu way, you walked so that Hakimi can fly. Yeah, man. Hakimi looked at that and said, Fuck that. I'm transferring everything to my mom.

SPEAKER_02 1:49:42

I think to be honest, I don't think Hakimi didn't even know about that. It's just it's funny, when I knew about this, it was like three years or four years ago, and it was just something in the football world we saw, we just kind of moved on from, right? And obviously, uh once in a while people make reference to it. But the truth is, with Hakimi, it's just something that you know your your your should I say your financial management or your it could be your your investment banker is the one that would advise you for advice for so many reasons obviously cool so that just it was lucky I think I think we we know the main reason I think we know the main reason I would advise anyone to do that if you can because though my my home girl who's a lawyer and everything because we were having that conversation and she was saying listen that the pre-enop thing in the UK is not as ironclad oh yes no as it is in America yes absolutely you go I mean which cannot make me be like bro when I saw that interview of my man saying that he lost everything bro yeah of course fam I said how the what kind of lawyers did you have like they must have shanked you from the from the back it's not about the lawyer bro listen I don't think it's the lawyer I think it was a booze mistake I think when he was when he was like getting a bit famous and getting obviously playing for Arsenal making more money you know when you renew your contract and stuff I think he was putting everything on his which I think that's the actual story was putting it in her name yes yes and that's where the problem is yes because he even said himself that he he allowed her run everything yeah that's it he gave me handle all that she's 100 so she was probably putting everything in her name so there you go so once she's like we're not doing any more this nothing raised in my name rainstor he was depressed he he could even go back home he had to go Ghana for like a couple years or whatever to kind of get himself together and everything because fam yeah I know and this senior bro a senior son signed with um Chelsea and you're not there to even like so I saw the interview that the son did and all that right obviously he's a little kid um hopefully he he he he learns but they asked him who is or rather who was your biggest influence in your life when it comes to football I was hoping for my man to say is that he wouldn't bro my man say my mother yeah that broke my heart bro I'm sorry this the person that's there that they're gonna say they're gonna talk about you know that's how kids that's how kids are and also remember that the guy's been um prepped before going on that whatever it is you know one of those things this is why a lot of times they'll tell you to be media trained the truth is I would not expect him to say his dad his dad was not necessarily involved in his life in the sense where his dad was not one taking him training taking him all of this stuff so of course he's gonna say his mom but guess what's gonna happen to that young man he's gonna become an adult and then and then he's gonna learn no he's not gonna learn life is gonna hit him when life hits him he's then gonna have a girlfriend he will understand and his girlfriend starts to act funny is gonna go to his mom and say Mom why is this woman acting silly then guess what his mom is gonna do don't worry I've got you let's put everything in my name let me protect you let me protect you then he's just gonna be out one day drinking drinking drinking drinking conversation conversation conversation come up then he hits him hold on a minute wait oh snap I'm becoming my dad my dad did not protect himself then fast forward he's gonna have an argue with his mom his mom will be like I don't like you anyway you're silly no wonder you're like your dad oh yeah I'm like my dad yeah oh let me reach out to my dad yeah hello dad he will learn how are you doing I'm fine how are you doing my son dad I hope you're not upset ah well man bro when you go to his comments right now telling you when you when you go to his comments right now yeah go through the boys' comments Matthias Ebuy yeah yeah you see the comment there reach out to your father yeah you get me he's not gonna understand it now yeah he's gonna he's not gonna understand it right now brought it you get me bro I felt bad for my man and all that shit bro but god and the mom by the way in that picture sorry this is looking at the picture of when he signed like the signing picture and stuff by the way if you've never been in that situation you would understand it's such one of the most amazing again I'm not saying this to sound like arrogant or anything I've been through that I've seen it I've done it and all of that stuff it's such an amazing moment and to be fair you want to share with the people you truly love when I say sign I mean I've been there and the way Chelsea do it is it's amazing bro I swear down you you would think you are the greatest thing on earth the way Chelsea do the signing day I've been again I got some of my so one of my boys signed um a year or two years ago so it's such a moment it's like an amazing day the experience is something you never forget even for the kid even if Chelsea doesn't you don't make it into like the first team you will never forget that experience that's an amazing experience now this is the key thing in situations like that the fact that again Pops wasn't there to like maybe even be part of it for me when I saw the sign in picture the picture they took and I saw the mom pregnant again I said hey I'm telling you bro I looked at the picture I said hey say no more say no more shit crazy bro but listen salute to them then everything man I hope I hope everything goes on well for them bro fam what's going on between fat Joe and I can't stand that guy man whoa let me address something please because sometimes when you write stuff online especially in the comment section yeah people might misconstrue it shout out to Shopsy Dude I love the stance he takes in everything I actually like it it's a smart move especially if you're protecting your brand if you're trying to be that guy that people don't necessarily see as troublesome or controversial so when that clip got released and Fadjo said there's this guy disrespected Benson that's facts whatever he said he disrespected Benson oh yeah that's never where I want to go to the first thing when he said Afrobeat started in Jamaica or whatever Shop Sidman went ahead to make his usual videos and whatever and the video was very for me I was like okay because he didn't really address anything instead somehow he ended up bigging up Boju Banton's new song and I was like what do you get it there's a way because he's such an intelligent man I thought himself like yo we need to put a stop to this yeah like give yeah he's right he talked about the elements of Afrobeats his borrowed elements from like the reggae dance hall blah blah blah but there wasn't you know that authoritative pushback that someone would go and be like you know what this guy's really respectful he made a point he did not say anything outlandish he told us exactly what it is this brother didn't not say much that I could say okay he was speaking for the genre brother was just there talking about Bujibantin's new song uh listen I get it man you guys need to eat and come on man at some point we've got to be real man now it's really upsetting I'm not gonna lie like I said again yeah shout to uh hey listen people listen people gotta do what they gotta do with it that's but we need to start calling it out man it's we definitely need to you need to stall we definitely need to defend our shit more no because those guys there if there's if there was a guy like your act or um someone else they'll come out there and say yo what you talking about they won't be disrespectful now okay okay academics could be disrespectful but do you get I mean someone that's talking about the genre that loves the genre you're meant to speak about that genre now moving back no fast forward jump into what thing said about how disrespectful Fajo was to the genre let me play the videos then oh okay yeah because this never the first time oh no I know that that's what I mean I said that's yeah cool Fadjo you mean yeah Fajo yeah so this is the first time that he actually talked about this the legendary bojubanta reggae artist he got another artist out of Africa calling himself booju too so I've been hearing this you know there's only one boju banta and he's from Jamaica the legend this was like the first time I believe this was like a couple years ago yeah yeah and now they now had booju on their show yep and this what happened yeah but you know it was a guy in Africa fake guy used a budget budget name you know I dissed him on TV this was when I was hosting the what was it the Wendy Williams show shut him down he changed his name yeah I told him there's only one budget bonton the Don Gaga Mel dissed out TV and went back to Africa the guy changed his name now he's X1312 or something changed his name I don't play that shit the name you know like most people get the name from their friends get a name from you know do some stupid shit and people name them my name came from my mom yeah so it wasn't a name given to me by my friends and I put the name Banton due to my adoration for Bull Bantan and his musical delivery in the dance you know because ever so often we have to keep in mind the people that there's a distinguished difference between a DJ in Jamaica and a DJ here.

SPEAKER_08 1:59:11

DJ here is the guy who plays the music the DJ in my country is the guy who hold on to the microphone and talk on the version speaks on the beat.

SPEAKER_02 1:59:19

So from one from in those heroes bull band time you know came to America made a name for himself so came for my mom and the band alright cool so we got a gist right Benson now replied 24 hours later and said the hate in your heart and your misinformation about African music and his artists is why your chromosomes are all fucked up educate yourself and he tagging on the thing yeah and part of the problem is Fadjo started talking about about obviously how Afrobeat came from Jamaica and all that bullshit you get what I'm saying so before I say what I want to say what do you want to say yeah booji started this anyway boojibanton started this remember we went on drink champs yeah and saying how Afrobeats they've always disrespected the genre which I understand and listen it's that it's it's the Afrobeat's fault we don't have gatekeepers you know we don't have people that really want to fight for the genre instead people just want to take what they want to take from it make what they want to make and move on do you get it?

SPEAKER_03 2:00:33

That's not that's what it is other genres they have people that are looking to protect it looking to always talk I'm like yo yo yo you can't say that again back to the guy I mentioned earlier he's made a video now and instead of him addressing that he was again saying oh he shouldn't have said what he said are you kidding me so when he shouldn't have said what he said um Budji shouldn't have tweeted what he tweeted and I'm like I can't tell you how to react if I've disrespected you I have no right and no one has any right to tell me that's a fact you can't now say to me brother man said first of all he disrespected a whole continent yeah he says some guy in Africa brother Africa is not a country this guy is always ignorant he's always and he's willing willingly and will willfully ignorant fat Joe is one of the fakest guys you'll ever meet bro I don't care he's not funny people always go jokes he's not a funny person he's not he's not even a good storyteller exactly like like I see a lot of people say they go like social food story therapy bro he's not the the problem with fat joe the problem with this whole shit is right cool I don't really have a problem if Bougie feels that type of way not not Benson Bougie Banton right I don't have a problem if he feels that type of way because I mean cool he made a name with that name and everything yeah but let's put things into context right Benson came out like 2019 2018 2019 and everything yeah with Benson Bougie right even at that time I'm not gonna lie I kind of was like oh shit like the name everybody had that because we all know Bougie Banton right now obviously around 2021 22 he decided to transition from that name because I believe the story at the time was he now realized that okay when you could use that name in Nigeria cool but if you're going international that's gonna cause a bit of problems and everything with like copyrights and all that kind of shit right so as a smart guy that he is yeah he said okay so he slowly started phasing out oh no Boujo Benson's team reached out to him they told him okay cool yeah cool but slowly he started phasing out that name and everything until he now landed on Benson right cool fat Joe you love boojibanson that's your homie whatever cool but the thing is there is a way going back to your delivery like you said earlier there is a way to say something you get me without talking down on someone or a whole culture or a whole country or continent you get me like you say yo some guy in Africa now he's XYZ like dude like who the fuck are you?

SPEAKER_02 2:03:10

Yeah exactly that's you I mean who the fuck do you think you are you get what I'm saying you're you're just a fucking man did lean back you get what I'm saying that's it yeah you get me like you can't just shut the fuck up yeah man you got what I'm saying like cool if Budjo Baton is your friend cool whatever if I join you're just a beg Budji Banton is not even really uh there's this thing in America where they like to like big up this the Jamaican Jamaicans right and I get it because the it comes with that um bravado that um mannerisms of the whole acting all hard and stuff which I understand first of all the guy that actually is the one that's really let's say friends and has actually pushed to the culture a lot is the person that's your friend which is DJ Khaled Fajo yeah you and DJ Khaled are friends DJ Khaled is the one that's closer to the Jamaican roots why because there's plethora of evidence on the internet of DJ Khaled in his slim days yeah DJing doing the whole pushing the old reggae pushing the old bro we know this and that's why a lot of people can't stand him bro and and and then and then at the end of the day yeah he's opening his dirty mouth yeah talking about someone trying to steal names and everything yeah half of these rappers are here are they not stealing names from guys in the streets exactly are they not stealing names from from Italian gangsters and everything talk about him terror squad what's terror squad exactly like these guys are stealing names from from the real gangsters on the street yep yeah these guys are stealing them from the real Italian mafia you get me but all of a sudden with Afrobeats on this guy and Afrobeat I mean if this guy's gonna suck a dick I wish Joe the artist R and B Joe sued him as well because what's fat Joe you gotta say what does that mean like like like people like him yeah they talk but it's and I'm not the type of person that like to play the racism thing or whatever the case is right yeah but that's a word for it. Why you're you're looking at people okay because he's from Africa who the fuck he is that is a racial undertone then you got me that's a racial undertone then you got what I'm saying and people need to call it out no they won't call it other you got me people in this culture need to stand up and everything you know I don't want to shoot about anybody but I saw the videos that you were talking about and all that shit you got what I'm saying like in my opinion it's so disappointing when we also see people that are elders in this culture in this scene yeah not able to stand up for one of our you get me like you can have your opinion about budget banton that's your homie and other kind of shit right but hey let's say you can't talk down on us like that man you know you know what you know one thing as well you can talk down on one of us is all of you talking up on all of us and everything let's let's be the one to talk down on one of us yeah yeah yeah let's do it let's do it let's be the one to do it because because this is our family that's not me but this game no no you know what's even mad fucking a man went on his camera and said oh bojo could be in the same room you know this is music they could end up in brother you're talking about yourself or are you talking about the artist who said bojo would want to be in the same room with Fat Joe who said that who is that ever gonna happen it could happen it might happen it probably would never happen let's address the buffoonery first before we start to bring hypothetically I don't care exactly about fat Joe bro yeah man saying oh you let's give it up but but you know these things cannot be said because you know it's it's an industry you know in mind but that's the thing like we always want to look up to yeah these people oh this who gives a fuck about fat Joe we all gonna be in the same room brother you're saying you're trying to speak and say because that would you getting in those rooms as well is equally gonna give you that opportunity again those that's what they at the end of the day forget about this musician i'm I'm slight grown ass man yeah man it go I mean you can't talk you can't talk down at me as if I'm a child and everything bro you can still put out your opinion you're right without being all fucking disrespectful you get what I'm saying and some people might look at this video now and say oh but you guys are disrespecting him too how we don't we are giving back the same energy yeah but no we didn't did we didn't disrespect him I did he's a fucking prick for that oh oh oh oh fucking bro I don't care about the brother I just he's done it too many times now for me to care he does that shit all the time all the time like he has this racial undertone he's just racial undertone he keeps taking shots at Africa and guess what they these guys will still suck up to him because I saw him in the comment section in that guy's video and he's there doing love it's like yeah man this is what I'm talking about the guy comes and slaps your family member and yeah you're going oh guys you know violence is not the answer you're absolutely right but guess what is the answer a retaliation I'm gonna slap him back then then we wouldn't then now go you're right yeah yeah my bad violence is not the loudest the guys are clown bro a lot as people but talking about Benson Farm did he hear the new song besides I haven't even heard it and I'm so happy I haven't oh bro listen listen I'll play for you Chris I'll be I haven't heard I haven't heard it I'll play for you they Chris let's check it out or rather a clip of it yeah yeah Benson and Sars back outside it's summertime you get me was my photo my gosh out of my phone yeah bro people need to go check that out bro that's a good song they need to go check that out I I I know that the reply gave him a bit of um you know push in terms of the algorithm because then again people went to check and there you go do you know I'm saying I I I know how the game goes but I'm happy that he replied yeah now whatever he meant by whatever I meant which we know probably what he meant but that's not the point the point is hey guys do not touch someone and tell them oh you can't do that back listen you're gonna dictate how someone retaliates it makes no sense bro a lot of shit but Benson and Saz bro you know what Saz never disappoints yeah Benson even though even though I kind of wish that he's a bit more active and everything but I know that whenever he he's whenever he comes out he's out bro and also please don't get twisted by the way I'm not the biggest Benson fan but this one is I don't care I am I would if you speak down on a guy that I rate I'm gonna yeah bro I'm one of the biggest Benson fans and everything even though he frustrates me a lot because because I don't think that he puts out enough music as he should I think he's one of the best in the game if he really puts his mind to it you get what I'm saying but I just kind of wish that he's a bit more active bro fam look at Ruger bro people are not talking about what Ruger is doing out here. No people are they always finally talking fam this guy is doing 14k 15k like it's nothing my man is in Australia he's in New Zealand he's here he's there bro like my man is working bro yeah he's on tour isn't it he got me it's like after he came out from um his label or the label that he was signed to what's name again uh Jones in world jones in world or wherever bro is like he just let loose bro oh yeah because he knows his oh he has to do it all himself isn't he got me he looked like he just let loose and my man is healing it's gonna have to do it all by himself he is healing it's gonna have to keep going bro that's someone that a lot of people are not talking about but people are still gonna catch on to my man bro because dude is killing that no to be fair people are and people are aware that he's got good um what's it called uh it's a good go good pen game he has good ears for melody the guy is a he's a very good and he's a hard worker so yeah people are gonna like him bro it's like we got some new music coming out you get me in the next couple weeks bro the market's gonna be crazy who which artists yeah before we jump into that yeah which artists do you think yeah when he or she announces that they are dropping

SPEAKER_03 2:12:00

Everybody needs to clear needs to clear road.

SPEAKER_02 2:12:03

Um name name in Afrobeats or in the world? In Afrobeats. Oh, in Afrobeat. I think we already know, man. It's just top five guys, the top five guys. Uh David, Whisked, Burner Boy, Ashake, maybe a bit of Remo. Is it? Yeah. And Ashake's album is coming out. First of May. That was the reason why I asked this question.

SPEAKER_03 2:12:26

Because um I think we're just one was supposed to my man just clear road and postponed this one to 8th of May straight. Yeah, of course, bro. Why wouldn't you?

SPEAKER_02 2:12:36

Ashake?

SPEAKER_03 2:12:38

Why wouldn't you?

SPEAKER_02 2:12:39

Ashake is not the guy to play with, man.

SPEAKER_03 2:12:41

You got what I'm saying? Listen, I will say this, yeah. Because I'm seeing the promo, the Ashake promo and everything, of the sculpture guy doing the whole art thing and all that, right? And somebody in the comment section, in our community, FOTV community on X, if you're not on there, go on there right now, yeah. My man said, let me just find it real quick. Oh my god, where is this shit? I saved it. I should have just made sure that I had it before we started uh God. So my man left a comment and said, We need to talk about how everyone is covering things just to release an album.

SPEAKER_02 2:13:29

But at least I like his gimmick. And to be fair, it's not really a gimmick because he's not involved. It could just be he took listen, it's a good rollout. A way to push um album promotion. He's just taking a video of a guy sculpturing something.

SPEAKER_03 2:13:42

I think it just means art. Yeah, you got me. But I do feel like it's only a handful of people that can really pull that art thing off. Ashake, can't you? You get me? I don't care what everybody says or anyone says, you know, that not all these artists are making quote unquote art. Yeah, you get me. People are just following sounds and chasing sounds and everything. Yeah, and then drop an album that is. But when it comes to someone like Ashake, I think I can give that to him. When it comes to someone like Whisked, I can give that to him. When it comes to someone like Burner, I can give that to him. Davido, I can give that to him. Thames, I can give that to her. I'm not gonna lie, bro. Fireboy.

SPEAKER_02 2:14:27

No, Fireboy is an album artist. Fireboy, I can give that album. Fireboy is like top three album artists. There's only three guys that can give you an album right now. My top three album artists, Burner Boy, Fireboy, Ashake. Everyone else, please go and find a room in the corner just down the hall. Thames. No, Thames is not enough.

unknown 2:14:45

This guy.

SPEAKER_02 2:14:48

Listen, this is a mansion, right? Yeah, good. Everyone has their room. Thames has her own foyer. She has everything in the corner. Just no one goes there. Just leave her alone. Just leave her alone. Leave her alone. Just leave her. Just wave from afar. Hey, you doing, Thames? You're right. She's goes, I'm good. I'm good. Oh, nice one, nice one. We'll catch up with you later, yeah? Dinner time?

SPEAKER_03 2:15:07

Cool, cool, cool. Like she's in there. Did they bone you a step there? She's in there. No one deserves me on there. No one is going to be. Because I don't care what nobody says yet. You know, all this artists want to say, yo, I'm I'm cooking art, I'm making art and F. Bruh, a lot of. You get what I'm saying? There are people that we go give that to. That do. And you know what? I'm not gonna lie. I love the fact that people like Fireboy and Asha Kay, they put a lot of thought into their promo. You get what I'm saying? Because I think Fireboy is also preparing to draw. You get me? So he's doing the whole, you know, even though you get what I mean. I have some patients. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:15:51

You get me. But oh yeah. Oh listen.

SPEAKER_03 2:15:58

Hey, to ease their own, bro. You gotta have it to ease your own and everything. I don't think all that is necessary, but if that's what you're trying to curate, hey, you give me more, more, more grace to your elbow.

SPEAKER_02 2:16:09

More fluidity. You give me more grace to your elbow. You love it, Fireboy.

SPEAKER_03 2:16:13

Yeah, but I love the fact that a lot of these artists, not a lot of these artists, a handful of this artist, like Fireboy, Asha Kay, they are sort of like trying to communicate this message, whatever it is that they are trying to create, or the mood that they're trying to create with their album, right? I love the fact that there's a lot of thoughts going into it. You know what I'm saying? Because I think we are we have past the age and the time of just wake up on a Friday, drop something, everybody listen to it. Okay, everybody go. You know what I mean? Put some thoughts into that, put some creativity into that. Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_02 2:16:48

You got it because that's what creates some longevity. That's what creates replaying your legacy. Replay like even what's her name? Uh my my goats, you know. What's her name again? Um, is that no Tyler, no Tyler, no Tyler, no Tyler. Tyler is one of my goats. Um, you already know Tyler is one of my goats, in it. Yeah, my goats, goats, yeah. Fam, you have a goat everywhere.

SPEAKER_03 2:17:11

You have a you have a goat everywhere. No, Kellani. Farm, like you go over there, you have you go over there, you have you go over there, you yep. You get me. How many goats do you have in the industry, bro? I'm a shepherd. Like, it looks like every single week. I'm a shepherd. Every single week and everything, bro. You just having fucking goats over there.

SPEAKER_02 2:17:28

I'm a shepherd.

SPEAKER_03 2:17:29

God damn, have one. Have one. I have a farm. I'm a shepherd. Have one. I listen. I lost every hope in you when you this guy said lost every hope in you. When you open your mouth and say that Tyler is your goat, are you okay over there? Are you already over there? You're right, yeah. I lost every hope in humanity. Oh, God. When you open your mouth and said that Tyler is one of your goats.

SPEAKER_02 2:17:56

Let me ask you a question. Talk to me, please. How many animals do you think you have in a farm? I don't know. You tell me. Loads. As a shepherd, as a guy, you're a herder. I'm a herder. Listen, I'm a herd of animals. I've got loads, man. I can't just have one goat. You have one rabbi, yeah. Hey, I have to have goats, yeah. So tell me, how do I want them to re- you know, um, um procreate, you know? You have one Nama. Nama. But yeah, Kelani dropped an album this week. An amazing body of home. I've been listening to that shit, brother. Brother. Fam, leave Kelani alone, bro. She's this is my point. Leave Kelani alone. When you drop an album like that, bro, you don't even need to drop a single again this year, bro. If we're being real, if we go with you dropping something, the reason why these guys will drop an album, then two weeks later they drop a single, they know that it's not the album is not albuming. This is my point. Kelani, imagine we have an artist like Kelani uh in Afro. Like, look, like Thames, where she drop the EP. People still call it album, but like I'll call it an EP. She has two good solid songs that have made rounds there, bro. Yeah, bro. Do you know what I'm saying? And that keeps the um that EP spinning in the algorithm.

SPEAKER_03 2:19:09

Even though I even though I have a theory about uh that whole EP album thing, I do feel like I the artist sometimes drop quote-unquote EP to see how good it does. And if it does so well, it's an album.

SPEAKER_02 2:19:23

Oh no, no, no, they can't change it. We all know it's an EP. And with Thames, let's be real, she's got loads of songs. Them's don't just drop every day. Of course not. Again, this is why I say please again. I repeat for the last time because now you're not good. But they vex me. She's not Afro-Base, she's never been one. Hence why she doesn't do your I claim that listen, I claim my terms as Afro-Base, bro. Okay, that's why she doesn't do your music Friday. Them's don't do that with you guys. Don't do your stream live. Nah, she doesn't do all of that stuff with you guys. You guys can keep doing your own thing, you know what I'm saying? So let's leave that woman alone and let her drop her music however she feels facts. Oh, you know what I mean? However she sees fit to drop it.

SPEAKER_03 2:20:03

It's dope. I'm not gonna lie. Listen, talk about music Friday just before we leave and everything. Yeah, come on. Drake is coming, 15th May. Iceman. Listen, we're gonna see what happens with that one, bro. I like it. You get what I'm saying? I personally think that. Listen, I think he's about to drop some heat. Yeah, I think he's about to drop the pressure's high though. 10 years ago. You get me. The pressure's high though. The pressure's high. 10 years ago, they gave me some. Like after this whole beef thing, the pressure's high.

SPEAKER_02 2:20:27

I promise you guys, just so you know, well, I will. I'll make you guys aware of this now so you guys don't be like, oh, you're just saying it that close. I'm telling you now for free. Drake is not the subject matter in this album, is not gonna be because if I was to guess, I would think Drake should be like so focused on telling us a story, what he's been through, what he's done all the after the beef, what happened, not necessarily giving us dates.

SPEAKER_03 2:20:49

I think he's gonna address it.

SPEAKER_02 2:20:51

Nah, he's gonna be taking silly shots, then talk about the young women is going around with oh, we know how Drake is gonna, bro. That's what he's gonna do.

SPEAKER_03 2:20:57

I mean 50's made 50 minutes around the corner, bruv. No, really. You get me 50 minutes around the corner and everything. Of course, you agree with him. Fucking Drake hate hate over there.

SPEAKER_02 2:21:05

Who? She's a no, I don't even hate Drake. I just no no no. I'm talking about her. No, no, but that's what I'm saying. But Drake is gonna give us the same subject matter. Uh, unfortunately, I wish he could give us back two 10 years ago. Bro, he can't. We'll see. He can't tap. Listen, do you know what it is?

SPEAKER_03 2:21:20

That's like asking Kanye where to give you college rock.

SPEAKER_02 2:21:24

No, we're not saying about the same sonics. No, I'm not talking about it. I'm talking about 10 years ago. Where he was meant or no, we're talking about the diversity of the subject matter. Yeah, like he gave you party, he gave you vibe, he gave you some hair, he gave you very like um what's it called? Um uh introspective sounds and all of that stuff. That's what I want to hear from Drake. I'm not saying give me that type of no, no, no, no. We know you've gone past that. You're never gonna be able to do that. You're richer now, you're fatter now, you're you've got more muscle, you've got less abs now, all of that stuff, you know. Your life has changed. And yeah, you're never gonna give us what you want to do. You know what I'm saying? He's got chiseled abs, he's got cane rolls now, these you know, yeah. You know what I mean? He's got his chicks everywhere, he's got his jet now, brother. You're not gonna give us 10 years, bro.

SPEAKER_03 2:22:11

You just do you too, like, oh you too. Oh my god, you too like, ooh, man. Listen, fam, listen, it's been a good one. Oh my god, it's been a good one, every bro. Great conversation, goddamn two and a half hours. Yeah, that's mad. Just before we leave and everything, yeah, yeah. New music Friday. People should go check this music out and everything, or rather, this long list of music out and all that Bel Ash Moda, Ara featuring Olami Day, Benson, back outside, featuring SARS, Tenny, Zion featuring Olame Day. Olame Day is clearly busy. He gave me Zinolinsky. He has come out of um um apparently, yeah. Apparently, so he's starting his own shit now. He goes, My guy had to plead and say, hey, hey, listen, listen, listen, listen. So maybe his contract ran off. Yeah, so he had to come out and tweet whatever it is. Say, hey, listen, there's no problem between me and me and Nara Malio. We are all good and all that shit. I say, I say, bro, I hear it. You get me? Follow, fine shit. A your mouth, attack, ice praise, basuki um kitty, um brother's bare songs out here, bro. Crayon, I like crayon, I like crayon, y'all go check him out. Techno, press button, y'all go check him out. Um Angeli Kijo, she has our new album coming out. People go check that out. She has well. Do you do you have anyone you want to talk about?

SPEAKER_02 2:23:43

Oh, it's the same songs, anyway.

SPEAKER_03 2:23:44

Yeah, same song. All right, then cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. Bro, listen, it's been a good one though, fam. Yeah, man. Guess what, guys? I'm hungry, bro. Same here as well, bro. And the weather's nice as well, bruh. The weather's beautiful, and we are trapped in the house. I like it.

SPEAKER_02 2:23:59

I like to move it, move it. I like to move it, move it. You like to move it.

SPEAKER_03 2:24:05

You gotta say, listen, is your boy Toby? Yeah, come on, banks, yo, and your boy Banks. Subscribe to the channel, make sure you do, watch the videos, make sure you do, leave a like, make sure you do, leave a comment, make sure you do, and share these videos with my friends. Make sure you do. See you next week. Until next time, peace. Be safe.

SPEAKER_17 2:24:40

Jump on your day. Your body did kill me, she did give signals to my big blink. Stop over for your city. The body later, you could sing me. Oh, shit. Oh, my woman limit, I delimit your biscuit. Ah, could you shake, could you share me? Cause now every minute she defune me. But for now, she could collect her money. I forgot the regards. I'm a big collie. No, I feel you love, but I know get your money. No, I'll tell you the buttons, get your body.

SPEAKER_03 2:27:09

Yes, sir.