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Ep 298 | Chaos

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Afrobeats is heating up again.

We’re breaking down the viral chaos between Carter Efe and Portable and why this “fight” turned into something way bigger than expected.

Then we get into the online tension between Davido and DJ Tunez. Is this real beef or just fans doing the most? We break it down properly.

We also review Asake’s Money album. Has he levelled up or is he playing it safe? Honest thoughts only.

And we couldn’t ignore the bigger conversation around xenophobia in South Africa. This part matters. Real talk about what’s happening and why it affects all of us.

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SPEAKER_03

I'm good, man. You good though? Bro, listen, we're back again, bro. We're back again like Nyash.

SPEAKER_02

This guy don't start again. This guy don't start again. You gotta be. Yeah, man, I'm here, man. Listen, I'm not even gonna front, bro. Yeah, I had a late one last night. True, true. Yeah, I had a late one last night. Guess what I was doing, brother?

SPEAKER_04

Shaking your hands? Dancing? No. Shakespeare, shaking of a parts. I don't know what you do, bro. Shaking of the shaker.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know what you do. You see, you see, first of all, let's be coming. Yes. Okay, bruh, because let me tell you something, yeah? I've forgotten to tell you another thing, yeah. This is the first time in a long time that I've seen you wearing just a t-shirt. Yeah, it's hot, man. Yeah, that's true. And the first time, bruh, I kind of noticed that your right hand is gonna be gonna be gonna be something. I'm dumping myself.

SPEAKER_04

He said I should guess. And I'm guessing, you were about shaking the little, you know, number table for the brother.

SPEAKER_02

Number bra well, I don't have none. So I wasn't shaking none. You give me well, bro. I was I was out, yeah. Watching Katefe and Portable, bruv. Fum. Fummy, eh. A little bit. I said Toby, I said Toby, what are you doing? But listen, I don't know about you, manaday. I am loving, I am loving Kate Fe right now, bro. I'll I'll come clean, bruv. I will come clean. I'm sold. I'm sold. That guy is a character, bro. Oh my god. For people that don't know, yeah. So there's a streamer guy in Nigeria. He is a character. I'm uh bro. I've I I want to say that I haven't seen nothing like this guy, bro. But this dude is funny, right? So, and then this other guy, Portable, obviously he's an artist. I'm talking to non-Nigerians now, yeah. Yeah, so Fam the Bob decided to do the boxing event thing. Yeah, at first I thought I thought, you know what, it is what it is. You know what I'm saying? Like cruise. That's what they call in Nigeria, cruise. Everybody's cruising everything, yeah. But after not even the second face of yeah, I think it was the first one where they were in a house or something coming face to bro. The way these two guys, they were going off, yeah. Yeah, bro. I was like, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_04

I feel I think I know the clip you're talking about. The promoter that's like fronting the whole thing, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Fam, the boy that we're going off in the heavy, yeah. Cool. After that, I said, you know what? Let me just I didn't want to watch this shit, but I just found myself sitting down to watch this shit. Bam. This was extraterrestrial being ET, yeah, a fucking alien. Oh my god, and a ninja tartal or something, yeah. I'm telling you, bro.

SPEAKER_04

I'm just I'm upset that a sport that we've come to really love and respect that has been reduced. I'm sorry. Like, I'm not even talking about Kata Fian. In just in general, I'm not. You talk about boxing, isn't it? I'm just saying, yeah, man, they've ruined my sport, man. Hey, back in the days used to be prestigious, you know, you had to know what you're doing. But watching Qata Fe and bro, they made me start to go, man. If you ever were once, I don't care if you won a match or not, but just being a professional boxer. Of course, bro, the stance, the jabs, the punch, the uppercut, look how coordinated those professionals make it look. Then I watched Qata Fe and Potebo, and I went, Hey, bro, but they do the same in America though. That's what I'm saying. The people that are not prof that's why I said people in general, like internet personalities jumping in the ring. I love the idea of all saying, Yo, let's put on gloves because we don't need anyone getting killed, anyone getting stabbed, and all that stuff. Like, let's punch it out. That's good. I love that. Let's punch it out, but just bro. Oh my days, man. Bro, listen, bro, listen. Go watch this, bro. Bro, listen.

SPEAKER_02

I need to play this shit, bro. I need to play this shit, bro. Fam, this is this right here is comedy galor, bro. Bro, check this out.

SPEAKER_04

Let's go. After the last game punch. Look at that, bro. Look at this. Look at this, bro. Watch this, bro. Look. Look at this.

SPEAKER_02

Give it to him, bro. Cut them wanted to kill this guy, bro. Bro, look at that. And then headlock. And then lock. Strength and bro. He wanted to kill this dude, bro. Look at this. Look at this.

SPEAKER_04

The punches are just not even coordinated.

SPEAKER_02

He gave him one punch here. My man spent 360, bro. Look at that.

SPEAKER_04

That's a making the money, bro. They made their money from this nonsense, bro. That's the truth. What? Look at that. Man, turn around. Hey.

SPEAKER_02

Bro, listen. Oh, man. Listen, bro. Yeah. Say what you want to say. Say what you want to say about this dude, right? These guys are marketing geniuses, bro. I'm telling you.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, in the entertainment space, they are, man. In the entertainment space, bro, you go give it to them. Nah, they've done well, man. You go give it to them. Actually, go through with it, put on the gloves and punch each other out. This is not easy, though. Sorry, not punch each other out. One person punched the other.

SPEAKER_03

This cannot be real.

SPEAKER_04

Surely this, surely some of the cars say, hey guys, you fell for our prank. Bro, watching this, you're like, nah.

SPEAKER_02

From he held my mom on now.

SPEAKER_04

No, it's not even that. It's like, bro, straight to the spine, bro. You can see how uncomfortable they both look at using gloves, gloves to punch. Man said, man said this.

SPEAKER_02

Yo, fam.

SPEAKER_03

Cata wanted to kill this dude, bro.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

100%.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, was a photo out there. Yeah, you see, Qata, yeah. My man was sending his punch all the way from Afghanistan. Bro, he's wind, they wind up the punch. From his strategy, yeah. Just poo. You're gonna say, bro. I was thinking, what the I was up. I was watching that shit last night. I'm not gonna front, bro.

SPEAKER_04

Bro, I want you to understand that the the idea of people doing generator uh in in Nigeria. This was a generator. Man said, let me wind it up. Punch.

SPEAKER_02

Do you know what this reminds me of, right? Just watching the rise of like catefi and NF, yeah. And I know people will be like, why you guys started with this up here and NF? I hear that. But uh it's powerful. Listen, bro, yeah, but just watching the rise of catefanfi, yeah, it just reaffirms what I know. Yeah, you see the internet, the internet will will reward you if you are the type that does not take yourself too seriously.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, if you have no shame.

SPEAKER_02

Just have no shame. Yep, because when you look at someone like Drusky, yeah, when he first started, now he looks cool doing what he's doing, yeah, right? Yeah, but back in the day, a lot of people would not want to put themselves in that position. They're thinking, yo, what are people gonna think about me? Yeah, that sort of shit, right? Like, and and more the comedian as well. Yeah, when he first started doing the couple of cans, yeah, a couple of cans and shit. You know what I'm saying? A lot of people will not do that because you do that, you might get two views, you might never get comments on your shit, you might never get likes on your shit, right? You're thinking, oh, what are people gonna say? But when you look at Kata, yeah, especially when he got into the streaming thing, right? There's kid thing and everything, obviously it's produced, or whatever the case is cool. But the streaming thing is like life, you're doing your shit life and everything. I'm not gonna lie, I was one of the people that was like talking, bro. I don't want to see a grown man fucking naked, ruining on the floor, talking about Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, my god, my god, or whatever, right? You know, although so that I was one of the people that said, bro, I don't want to see that shit, right? But he just continued. And regardless of what people say, yeah, he's the biggest streamer out there, if not in Africa, in at least in Nigeria.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I'll say Nigeria, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And yeah, and he's bagging it in. He's he is no, he's bagging it in, and and you can tell he connects with uh with a certain demographic. You know what I mean? They are loving him out there. While on the other hand, Shank is my guy, he's my type of guy, if that makes sense, like the way he moves and all that sort of shit, right?

SPEAKER_04

But you can compare. Yeah, but but then but then again, if we'll if we flip the coin. Yeah, we have to flip the coin, guys. Sorry. The truth is, absolutely everything Toby said is so true. But then again, it comes with the with the territory where yes, at the moment, because everything is moment moment everything is moment um momentary, like it's at the moment we're looking at it or we're seeing it, clear his trajectory is amazing, right? And he's doing stuff that, like we said, it's considered shameless. Yeah, one is gonna one person is gonna outlast the other. And the truth is, if you guys look at the statistics, it's not me making this up. Someone like Shank would have a linear move, so it's gonna be like this. He will still be able to be doing his thing for a while. While with um Kata Efeita, then it's gonna be a dip. I don't think so. I'll explain why. It's gonna be a dip because at some point people will start to move on from that type of caricature character. It's the same way they moved away from the skits, bro. Three years, four years ago, pretty much everyone wanted to be a skit maker, which was really lucrative, it looked lucrative. No one ever thought that something like a stream would come to, especially Nigeria, then people will be like, I'll leave the skits now. One guy that's still doing skits and is really good at it, is Mr. Sabinus. At some point, people like your kata Fe, um, what's his name? Um, Sidney Talker. No one is touching them in skits. They used to bag a lot of money. It goes back to this. Everyone's like, I prefer this type of skit, I prefer that type of skit. The people that just carried on, they never had like a massive um what's it called highs or lows. They just had like a linear run. They're still there doing it and now still making more money because they're the ones that lost it.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, but okay, but a part of it as well, I hear you, and in a way I agree with you, but then at the same time, diversifying your portfolio, right? It also plays a game in that, right? Because the same skill that you were talking about, um Drusky, for example, was doing it. Yeah, but then now he has now moved into his hosting gigs and everything now with with the BET that's coming up now.

SPEAKER_04

No, that was gonna happen regardless, because as a personality, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

But that's what I'm saying though, like where he first started. Correct.

SPEAKER_04

Now he has his um could have been could have been records as what even started with first.

SPEAKER_02

You get what I'm saying? Now, when you look at Kata with his kids, yeah, now he now moved into the streaming thing, yeah. And then, but you can tell he has a plan. Yeah, there is there is a plan to that madness there somewhere. Yeah, there is a plan. Yeah, and you can now see him do his 48 hours shit. That shit was a success. Yeah, of course. You know, obviously I didn't watch it live, but I was watching like the base and everything, like clips, and he invested in that shit. Absolutely talking about someone who invested in shit, because that's how you grow. Yeah, you have to get the money, reinvest, get the money and all that. And he did that for 48 hours. A lot of people were tuned in into that, you know, different personalities came on that, right? A lot of people supported him. You can you can see that he has quote unquote the culture behind him compared to other streamers, right? Yeah, yeah. Now, Shank, in a way, we need to find a way to diversify what he's done. You go, I mean, the same way um Qatar is doing. You can tell, bro, with the way Qatar is moving right now. Yeah, my man can go into movies, he can go into his old sort of TV shows, he can he's smart, he's not about to be a good one. He's a very smart dude.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, that's that's undeniable. Again, I just want people to understand one thing is guaranteed, one thing is certified, one thing is established. Everything Toby's saying about Qatar, I don't need to repeat it because that'll be beating a dead horse. But we are forgetting something again, because it's a madness. When I say madness in a good way, it's it's like hot water, it's like pain. At some point, some pain would reduce, your body will get used to it. Your body will acclimatise with the pain and you'll move on. That's what I'm trying to say. With Shank, for instance, Shank does a lot of things like on YouTube, he's doing guests to this, he has like the artist, he's doing like I watch Shank's content on YouTube and it's fun because you can see he can do that. Now, the one thing that's putting um that so somehow separates both of them is they've got two different styles of entertaining. Yeah, he's more of the eccentric cutter. If he's more of the eccentric guy, oh let me do this madness, let me everything is aggression, aggressive. Um, Shank is more of a cool dude, and I'm trying to say that would it's just a look back at all the guys that were crazy. I promise you, they were never like that for long. Why? What happened? That's how human minds are. You get tired, there's a dip. Please clip this. So, in two years, and I'm not praying for him to have a dip, I'm just trying to say the madness thing will wear out because people will now be like, let's move on. Because that's how that's what happens in life. So I hope he capitalizes on this moment because right now the boxing and all that stuff, great. What then happens is people want to see something fresh, they don't want to see that character anymore, they want to see something fresh, like what you said. Drusky is doing Druski now does skates where he he gets real life stuff, he makes it into jokes and stuff. Four years ago, he wasn't doing that. Do you know what I mean? But now he's doing that. Now, again, from that, the opportunity is one of the most popular um comedians, he's getting gigs as a host. That's the same thing I hope Kata Fe does. Because when you watch Kata Fe talk normally, articulation is a thing, guys. Trust me, when you're not well articulated, people might not take you seriously, they might think you're still playing your character. Do you get it? It's like when you speak to Shank on a norm without this thing, he handles himself really well, he tries to make sure his his live street, his streams are like clean in a sense, and that's the thing. If you go back and look at it, when Portable started, we're all tired of Portable's madness now. Am I wrong or right? Everyone is tired of it, but when it comes and you watch it, it's entertaining, but you're like we'll move on from it. Vice versa. See, Whiskey, when he carries himself, it's different from the way the others carry themselves, and that's the shank. That's where Shank is trying to lean into. Yeah, yeah. But but that outlasts any form of extension.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, I mean, I mean, we we we are yet to see that. Oh, yeah. You got what I mean? We're to see, you know, time time is a beautiful thing, in it. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I just feel like knowing where you come from, knowing your demographic, knowing the people that you want to cater to and everything, also plays a very big role. You get what I'm saying? I hope all of them succeed. Absolutely. They succeed. You know what I'm saying? I hope all of them succeed in that because just watching this boxing, bro. Like I say, say what you want to say about this guy. They marketed this shit, they put in work. Yeah, you get what I mean, bro. This stuff was being shown on Days and Right? I was on X. There's this guy who lives in Dubai, his call base is politics, yeah. Literally, politics. Yeah, geopolitics, Middle East, America, and everything. My man was tweeting about this shit, bro.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah, because they they own um doesn't innit, so you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02

Like, it's so crazy. Yeah, when you just look at this, where these guys come from, and obviously where they are, the money that they are gonna get from this shit. Yeah, I love the production.

SPEAKER_04

Bro, the ring, everything looks like one of those American celebrities. It's amazing, man.

SPEAKER_02

Everything I was shocked, you know. Listen, salute to them, though.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I thought it was gonna be like the one, the first one Potabu did this. Come in by who he fought. It was the ring was looking mad, but this one looked clean. They're putting work for that. You got me, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

They're putting work for that. I got something like that for that.

SPEAKER_04

Well, well, well done, man. Kata Fi and Potibu. But let's let's not do this again, bro.

SPEAKER_02

Do it again. I just want to laugh, bro. Do it again. This first laugh is good. Bro, do it again. I was laughing last time, bro. Do it again, bro. Just watching two people that that clearly can't fight. You gotta be just watching two people, two people that clearly cannot fire. And guess what then happens, and just get to a ball. What you gotta give them is the stamina is there.

SPEAKER_04

100%. But guess what then happens now? Stamina is there, but guess what happens? The typical Nigerian syndrome, everyone now wants to do boxing, bro. Let them do see, no, no, no, you're missing the point. What then happens is you remember what I said, once if something becomes yeah, then you lose the yeah, people will watch it, but now everyone now will be like, Oh, let me go and train now, too. Me too, I need someone to win this so they'll pay us and we'll fight. But people keep forgetting that you need to be a good draw. Yeah, cata if it is a draw, Potable's a draw. So obviously, you can't just randomly like for this is what remember that episode I said, Wiz or Burner Boy, they should give them a certain amount and they should get in the ring and fight. I said it, bruh. Check the tip.

SPEAKER_02

I'm gonna say Wiz and Burner Boy. Oh no, even Wiz and David O. Oh, okay. Yeah, Wiz and David.

SPEAKER_04

No, to be fair, if Wiz and Burner Boy fight, I think it'll be a draw. Oh, please. To be a tie, please. Okay, tell me who you think will win.

SPEAKER_02

But Burner Boy will beat Wizard Boy.

SPEAKER_04

I disagree. I think it's a draw. So you think that will end in a TK? Do you think it will end in a TK or KO or just um what's it called? Split decision. Which one? Mortal Kombat, Mortal Kombat. You don't rich, you don't rich with it. I promise you, white kid is more of your uh what's you called Floyd Mayweather. It's been it's been disrespectful. I don't like this. I'm gonna know.

SPEAKER_02

I don't like this, I'm gonna only the only channel whiskey.

SPEAKER_00

You want to poo pull his other disrespect.

SPEAKER_04

I think we just technical.

SPEAKER_02

No one is kidding.

SPEAKER_04

First of all, too much too much of my go. I'm telling you too much of my what? I still got brow to the boy. Yes, I promise you it will be a split decision or draw. It will be a tie.

SPEAKER_02

Please.

SPEAKER_04

How many rounds do you think? This guy is too winning. I can't understand. I really brother what? What? Wow, the upper. I know my guy, Wiz, man. He's gonna come through.

SPEAKER_02

I don't think I don't listen. I'm not saying that Bonner Boy is a good fighter. Yeah, you got me because because the little clip that I saw with um DJ Tudors and everything, yeah, you got me, but Bonner Wiz, yeah, and quick question.

SPEAKER_04

What gives you the impression that Burner Boy would win? Bro, weight difference is a real thing. I know. Weight difference is a real thing. Big facts. There you go. But you forget that sometimes it's not the is not the only thing that factors into you winning.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, of course, it's not the only thing, but it but it is a big there's a reason why real fighters fight within a weight.

SPEAKER_04

100%. The reason is they just wanted to be on an even playing field, right? But this one they're not professional boxers, yeah. So the rules would not be particularly you know constrained to their level, yeah. So I'm saying this now, for instance. Best believe Wiz is doing the Floyd, picking his bro. Remember, let me fight. Remember, all Wiz has to do is jab burn a boy like let's say three to four times with what and okay. I'm doing I'm not doing this with you. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

SPEAKER_02

Wait, SS is that what it's gonna do with what guy, please. First of all, I don't think the bottom have stamina affairs with the way the border smoke. You gotta be. I'll be surprised if the border last a minute in the middle of the day. No, I still think it's the time, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

But if you take away that, bro because I think, yeah, the reach, so burnable is reach, which I think a lot of people are like, oh, yeah, he's maybe a bit a little bit taller, yeah. And he does this. All Wiz has to do is you know, because he's uh you can just see that that small gap.

SPEAKER_02

Oh my god, can't believe this. You watch a Whiz I've got you, bro. Don't worry, man. Listen, please. I can't believe this. I can't believe you believe this. Now, if you tell me tunes Bonner one on one. Who unwin? Tunes and Bonner. One one on one. So who win that boxing match? I think I'll I think I'll give it to Tunes. Okay. Fair enough. I think I'll give it to Tunes. Tunes and Bonner one on one.

SPEAKER_04

Give him one punch.

SPEAKER_02

Even though, bro, even though since we are here, bro. Yeah. Before I promise you we would jump into Ashake.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_02

Bro, listen. That's a real one, bro. Hey, listen. At this point, yeah. My guy. Yeah. At this point, you need to spin the block, bro.

SPEAKER_04

What's he spinning?

SPEAKER_02

You need to spin the block.

SPEAKER_04

Who's he spinning the block on?

SPEAKER_02

You need to catch one of Bonaboy's entourage or something. You gotta do something, bro. Wait, why? Because every time my man opens his mouth, yeah, the internet's gonna remind him that he got stomped out. That's a compliment. It wasn't one on one. Compliment, bro. Guys, you didn't know what means. Nobody gives up. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. A wise man was once said this, yeah. I'm just gonna play something for you real quick, yeah. Are you know for real?

SPEAKER_04

Ten or more people stomping me out. I'm gassed. That means it took you how many. It took you lot.

SPEAKER_02

A wise man.

SPEAKER_04

I can tell you for free, that man is not wise. But let's go.

SPEAKER_02

A wise man called Charleston White.

SPEAKER_04

Of course, Charleston White is not the wise. Charleston White is one of the ones.

SPEAKER_02

Let's go.

SPEAKER_00

It's like once it's on the internet, it you can't erase it. It's there forever. Yeah, that's why you shoot the person and put it on the internet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, if a listen, if a nigga knock me out and I wake up and they got them phones out, I'm gonna shoot the people with the phone. Facts. Because they gonna cause more damage than the nigga that knocked me out. That's a whole fact. That'll make everything alright. Facts. Yeah, shoot the motherfucker recording. Motherfucker. Yeah, you trying to cause irreputable harm to me forever. Yeah, I can't ever recall. My kids go, yeah, you get that motherfucker recording. No good rod, motherfucker always wanna record something. Start shooting them motherfuckers with the phones. Do them like the police doing. Can't you try to record? Yeah, man, nah, man. Uh I'm damn near with you. I'm damn near with them niggas. Yeah, fuck fighting. Yeah, keep them guns up, yeah. Cause you lose. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't listen to these niggas. Most you niggas can't throw no motherfuckers straight, nigga. Most you niggas be flicking. Don't listen to these old niggas who grew up fighting. Y'all done grow up fighting. Y'all done grow up playing throw up taco. Most you niggas ain't got scars on your leg. Keep them guns in your hand, nigga, cause you don't know what to do if a nigga hit you in the nose. You ain't never been hit in the nose before. Your mama didn't let you play with another little boy. Most you niggas don't know how to respond to a punch and it hurt and you don't want to be hit with it no more. Get you a gun. Yeah, yeah. I'm with you niggas too. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I done been hit with one of them motherfuckers and say, damn, I don't want to fight this nigga no more. But you got to keep fighting somebody. Yeah, you gotta figure out how to try to make it not make it hurt so much.

SPEAKER_02

Yo, DJ Tunes, you need to crash out this point, my boy. You know what I mean? You don't, bro. Somebody need to catch their pants, bro.

SPEAKER_03

No, bro.

SPEAKER_02

You need to redeem yourself at this point, man. At the moment, you're winning, DJ Tunes.

SPEAKER_04

Don't worry. Winning what? What's the winning? Again, if it takes more than two people to put me on the ground, I am the biggest bro.

SPEAKER_02

Anytime DJ Tunes does this, bro. Anytime DJ Tunes does this, uh so what we'll remind him, bro. Fab, you got Stomp Tower, bro.

SPEAKER_04

The people reminding him are people that have never fought before. They've never been slapped before, they don't know what the rules are.

SPEAKER_02

Yo, fam, cut if you just go in a fight, bro.

SPEAKER_04

Uh if it does go in the fight, bro. That's a controlled environment. A proper fight, a controlled environment. A proper fight where legs are involved, teeth are involved, elbows are involved.

SPEAKER_02

Brother, fam, we bro, we just saw my man on the ground, bruv. We literally saw my man on the ground again, stomped out, bro.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, 10 again. There you go, getting stomped out. Not by one person.

SPEAKER_02

Hey, bro, listen.

SPEAKER_04

If you fight a guy right now and you knock the guy out, just you, I promise you, everyone is gonna look at you different. Now, if you punch up a guy, free of a man next to you, well, in Niger, in in the actual way of speaking English, men, but in the UK, you know, yeah, you get it. Yeah, yeah. I promise you, everyone look at you different. People remind you, oh brother, fam.

SPEAKER_02

He needs to sneak on, he needs to sneak up on someone, right? And just someone is recording over there, yeah. Sneak up on one of Banner Boys Man, yeah, and just you get what I'm saying? And just put on the internet. But fam, you need to redeem yourself, man.

SPEAKER_04

I'll walk around DJ tunes. Let me speak to you. Look at me, camera. DJ tunes. This is all you need to do, bro. Ignore these guys that have never fought in their lives, they've never been slapped before, they don't even know what it means to even throw a punch. That's one. Two, walk around like this and remind people that brother, it's taking more than two people to put me on the ground. Do you know what it means? Bruh, uh, you're lucky.

SPEAKER_02

But people that don't know what we're talking about, yeah. No, they do, they do. So recently, yeah. So recently, yeah, we saw a photo of Whisked in LA playing um lawn tennis, and all white, white leggings, white trainers, all that. I promise you, people, we're gonna talk about Ashake. I promise you, yeah. Let's just finish this one. So, about last week or two weeks ago, photos of Davido in the gym working out and everything. My man obviously had his white leggings and all that. You know what I mean? Similar photo, it is what it is. It is what it is. Sometimes I do feel like this artist, they just knowingly just want to raid bait each other's camp. That's how I feel, right? Cool. All of a sudden, DJ Tunes posted Whiskey's photo after all the little chatter that have been going on on the internet, both camps saying, oh, you're copying this person, you're copying that person. Yeah. DJ Tunes now went on the internet. He's the master troll of all, really. Right? And then he posted this. He posted Whiskey's photo and wrote original, no be China. You know what I mean? Original, no be China.

SPEAKER_04

Meaning the reason you know he's China was counterfeit, because but but how is that enough to trigger someone?

SPEAKER_02

I don't know. I swear these authors, they they have, they have the thinnest skin ever.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_02

You have to. You know what I mean? Because if someone posted that, yeah, when I saw that shit, I saw when that shit was posted, my mind did not go to Davido. I swear to God, that might not go to him. You go, I mean, I just said DJ Tunes posting what he's posting, doing what he's doing, the internet shit. All of a sudden, Davido now jumped out of the window, bro. You go, I mean, you are a disgusting, nasty fellow. Them use boots to carry your stees forever. Which goes back to my point. Choose need to do something to redeem himself, bro. Nothing tunes, bro. Because anytime he opens his mouth, Davido is using that to mark him. Yeah? Wait, hold on. Davido is using that to mark him. Boda is using that to mark him, yeah. Kate Fe is using that to mark him. We saw the other day on Malay in the club with Black Bones. The song came out, or Braffade for Ground. He was using now. I'm not saying that he's monkey man and everything, yeah. But that's what the internet was saying, right? I'm just saying, bro, at this point, at this point, you he needs to do I put him and J. Cole in the same box, yeah? J. Cole, when the beef was going on, right? Between Ken Drake and fucking Drake, he put out his beef, then took it back within 24 hours and apologized, right? The internet's there say, yo, bro, you're weak. Right? In my opinion, J. Cole needs to use one of these, one of these rappers as an example. I'm talking about rap battle now. You know what I mean? He needs to use one of them as an example and show everybody, listen, I'm a monster when it comes to this. I just didn't want to get involved, right? DJ Chu needs to use one of those people as an example to say, hey, listen, don't play with me. Yeah, it was me versus them man, but don't play with me. And anytime he gets a phone call, yo, Bonner Boys man is in the club right now. We see him, he's alone. He needs to sneak in from the back. Yeah, and someone must be recording that shit, bro. My man needs to redeem himself, bro. I think so. Don't you think so?

SPEAKER_04

DJ Tunes. Do not do anything stupid because at the moment your reputation is intact. Believe it or not, your David Does it doesn't know necessarily just David Do. All these people are gonna use that, or your C's. How did your C's go forever when it's not one guy that puts you on the ground?

SPEAKER_02

It's in Balambu, bruh.

SPEAKER_04

Bruh, it's about 10 or how many groups of people. And by the way, about 95% of the people stomping, air coach stomping, are subservient to uh what's it called? The guy, the antagonist in this.

SPEAKER_02

They are doing their job.

SPEAKER_04

Of course, that's a job that no one paid you, but hey, do your job, you know what I mean? Yeah, suck up to the master. Lick, lick, lick. At the end of the day, yeah, but that's what they do, innit? But at the end of the day, remember, him using that is for him. It's all about let me find ways to spite his ego. I've told you guys, if you've been in a fight before, you're praying that three, two more people jump in, especially if you know you're gonna lose the fight. Because now you can get up and go, guys, listen, you don't want to know what do when it's one on one. You don't want to know, man. Show us, yeah, sure exactly. Show us that. Now, if it was a man that punched you up one-on-one, I agree. I'll be like, Yeah, damn man, your Steve's, you have to do that, that, all of that. Brother, whatever, man.

SPEAKER_02

So you don't think he should have said now?

SPEAKER_04

Nothing, bro. Go home, cook, eat, sleep, get up, troll, do the same thing again.

SPEAKER_02

What if he gets touched again? Because Davido said, Yo, let's take this off the internet. That's real life. Something, something when it comes to that. Yeah, which means, yeah, listen. So if I catch you in real life, you know it's going down.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, so if it goes down again, yeah. So that is then if it's one on one.

SPEAKER_02

No, you cannot dictate a fight. Yes, you can. No, you cannot. This is not organized fight, this is not boxing. You get me whether one-on-one or or whether I'm I track you down, wherever, bro. On the street, nobody says, Yo, we go do this. No, again. If I'm with my boys, I'm gonna catch you, yes, and I catch you lacking.

SPEAKER_04

It is what it is, it is what it is, and I tell my of course again. If you've been in a fight, you know what I'm saying. As soon as you catch your up, you're like, Yo, bro, let me handle this, brother. You're dickhead, come, come. That's bro. Uh, tell my bro.

SPEAKER_02

But nobody, yeah, but nobody says that, bro.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, okay. I would yeah, I won't say too much. Okay, that's cool. No one says that. We'll see.

SPEAKER_02

Obama feel like you gotta do something, my guy. Obama go do something, bro. Yeah, that'd be good. I'm not I'm not advocating. Listen, I'm not advocating for violence, anyways. We are not advocating for violence. We just having a good time here. You go, but I still support Charles State.

SPEAKER_04

Why the heydays, man? Heydays when you catch your up, when you catch your up, oh, and you especially when you want your up not to go and say, Yo, bear man jumped me. Uh no, no, no, no, no, no, bear man. It was me and you, bro. You ran. That's why it's important to make it clear. That's why I keep telling people if you really truly want to brag about your strength, your dah dah dah. Once, especially when you're getting remember, technically, you've won the fight when you're doing one-on-one with your bridges at the back, making sure none of them jump in. You know what it does psychologically to the guy? He's like, Oh, he's got his guys. He's lost that fight anyway. But you take that advantage now, I'm like, Whoa, whoa, when you grab him, make sure your boys don't jump in, make sure they don't jump in. So when you knock that guy out, he don't go, Oh, yeah, they were like 10 men jumped me, man. Because brothers do that a lot. You caught me and my there. Let me stop. Anyway, carry on. Listen, salute to them, you saw me.

SPEAKER_02

Salute to them though. Should we jump into Asha K, bro?

SPEAKER_04

Pause. We can't jump into him, bro. Yeah, pause, pause, pause. We could say, can we should we do this? Brother, pause. Pause. Let's talk about the album. Let's go. Yes, sir.

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Let me pause.

SPEAKER_02

Asha Kay! What did I say? Money. The new album out right now. Go check it out. Let's go. Bro, listen. Listen. What do you expect? That is a vibe, though. Not gonna lie. That is a vibe. I've said this before. Ashake is one of them people where you hear the album is coming, everyone just to just. You know what I mean? Everyone just needs to give away, give way, give way. You know what I mean? Just give way. Give way, give way. You know what I mean? Just give it a pipe is coming. He has earned it. He has earned it. You know what I mean? He's one of the few that have earned it, in my opinion. And it's very few, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_04

Is it four for four? Because it's got four albums out. So is it four for four?

SPEAKER_02

Is it four for four? Oh my god. Is it four for four? Bro, the bar is too high. The bar is too high.

SPEAKER_04

I would not say you're gonna play. I want you to play. Sorry, I'm gonna go with the single. Sorry, it didn't make it.

SPEAKER_02

It was a single I mean bear with me, people, bear with me, people. Um Yep, let's go. Is it is it's a single, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

What did you think when you heard that bit?

SPEAKER_02

Listen, the Holy Ghost, bro.

SPEAKER_04

That's the difference, guys. The Holy Ghost Nothing can touch a hungry man, bro.

SPEAKER_02

Nah, that's a whole fact.

SPEAKER_04

Nothing can touch but brother, brother. Bro, I should gliding, bro.

SPEAKER_02

Listen, to your question, to your question, whether it's four for four, the bar is too high.

SPEAKER_04

For him, you mean, or for the industry? The bar that he said. Oh, oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

You go, I mean, the bar that he set is way too high, bro.

SPEAKER_04

I'm trying to check. Go on, keep going.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, you're talking about his first album. The first two albums. Yeah. Bro, it's gonna be hard to touch that. Forget about the second one. The first one. You know what I mean? It's gonna be too hard to touch that. So I cannot give it four for four. Do I think that this album is a decent album? It's a very good album. Yes. You know what I mean? Or do I put this on that same that first album is a classic, bro?

SPEAKER_04

No, not necessarily like comparing the fourth one to the first one. So you see when someone does something the first time, it's successful, second one to successful because you're not comparing it. Different sounds, maybe different times, different stories. Third one too successful, excuse me. Then the fourth one is successful. That's what okay, cool. So not comparing in terms of impact, in terms of like quality, no. Yeah, just like a good album, great. First album was good, you said? Yeah, we all agree.

SPEAKER_02

If I'm the first album is a classic, exactly.

SPEAKER_04

Second one was solid.

SPEAKER_02

I would say the second one is a classic.

SPEAKER_04

Classic. Third one, too, good, very good. Fourth one, good. There you go. That's what four for four is. Yeah, but is that four for four for you? No. Oh, okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_02

No, because because you you are the way I look at it, the way I reason it is you're asking me to put it on the same.

SPEAKER_04

Oh no, no, no.

SPEAKER_02

You go, I mean, no, I can't do that. You go, I mean, I think this album, based on where he is now in his life, like you just said earlier, you cannot touch our hungry man.

SPEAKER_04

No, you can't touch an angry man.

SPEAKER_02

You go, I mean, his belly's full right now. You go, I mean, he's dripping in gold right now, bro. He's having a wonderful time and everything. This album reflects where he is. Absolutely. You go I love that for that. Yeah, him and that album for that. Yeah, you know, now he's he's on a yacht. He he is in in Santorini, he's in Mikanos and shit. When you listen to that worship, the single, that's for the summertime somewhere in Santorina, Mikanos, bro.

SPEAKER_04

That's even for like brunch.

SPEAKER_02

You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, you got what I'm saying, like that's what he did that song for. Now, a couple of the songs, you know, like um Wow, that's for your you got me.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, of course, you know, it's got a different thing. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_02

That's that that right there's for the Loon Goon. You get me?

SPEAKER_04

But do me a favor as well. Yeah, that um the joint E P between him and Whiskey. The first what's the name of that track? You hear something as well.

SPEAKER_02

Which which which one are you talking about?

SPEAKER_04

The one this song, I keep forgetting the song. The second track, I think. Is it the second track?

SPEAKER_02

Is it turbulence? Is it jogged or is it?

SPEAKER_04

Sorry, my bad, turbulence. That's cool. Just listen to Asha Kespa. And this is what I was this is where I'm trying to go to with my take. This is the guy that I know he can still do that.

SPEAKER_02

I don't think he still can.

SPEAKER_04

Bro, did you just just this took me back to his second album, Damn Mode. The only difference now is the texture of his voice. Because he's now richer. But you can still see the qualities like watching a footballer, just rewind back the whole old times, the prime times, and you're like, oh, he's still got it. That's how I see it. But then again, you know these artists, you don't know when they recorded the album. You don't know. Do you know what I'm saying? Some sometimes they're just laughing in the corner going, that's uh like an old yeah, it's just a bunch of songs I just put out. We never know, but the album is good, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_02

Listen, I don't think Ashake is capable of making a bad album, right? He's not song, yeah. I don't think he's capable of making a bad album or a bad song and everything. But then when I now look at the quality, yeah, I'm not gonna lie. When I was listening to this album, you know, a part of the album struck me like this is just a bunch of singles bunched together. You go, I mean, there was no there was no the transitions was not very smooth, right? Yeah, it wasn't as cohesive and everything. Like, for example, if you go back to the first album, and it's so hard, right? Because if you're comparing this Ashake now to his first album, like where he was, you're always gonna lose. You get what I mean? So, but then at the same time, it's very hard with his type that the type of person that he is, right? The type of artist that he is, right? It's very hard to listen to one album just on itself. Like you always gonna go back because you know where you were, you know where he was here, and then you have to compare it to where he is now because you can clearly like we all followed his story, we all followed his journey, and we saw the transitions and that. You know what I'm saying? But back to my thing, yeah, the transition between Zanza and Ototo is seamless, perfect, right? When I listen to this album, some of it just strikes me as a bunch of songs, singles just put together. You get what I'm saying? And I can't really he I can't really feel that hunger. Like, you know, when you listen to an artist, you can feel that hunger. You get what I mean? He's on some rich shit right now. You get me? He's on some some I got bare chicks right now, you know what I'm saying? I'm that guy, you go I mean they are calling me God, like you know what I mean? They are calling me king and all that kind of shit, you know, which is which sounds good, but bro, I love the flexing and shit. No, no, gonna lie. I love the flexing. It's so hard to sleep on a marble floor, right? And think you can still tap into that. That shit is different. You know what I mean? That shit is different. But once again, but once again, I will say this. I think a lot of people underestimated. I'm not saying that Ashake is not great, Ashake is great. But I think a lot of us, even though I've always said it, a lot of people underestimated the greatness, the source, the flavor of Olamiday in the the music creation with Ashake. Because when I'm listening to this album, I can feel that missing a little bit.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, that's what you're finishing. I'm not sure. Oh, I thought you wanted to do this. No. No, but that's pretty much what I was gonna say. The only thing missing now is he's left to his own devices to do his own thing, however he sees fit. So he's fully now experimenting. The first two albums have Olamida written all over it, which I love. So you can tell that he's made the song because we played this old. Let's put this verse here, let's put this one there, and the ad lips, let's change this, blah blah blah. You can see a lot of inspiration here, um, imprint on it. Now, what then happens he left, he didn't look a good boy. You can hear the difference. Yeah, now because now he's now like I don't have to really go back to anyone for them to listen back and give me better feedback. I'll do my own thing and I'll I'll I'll just go with it. So now what we're seeing genuinely is purely Ashakare, like all Ashakir's thoughts, the mind, the sound, everything he really wanted to do. He was of course, not that he was sad doing what he did in the first two albums, but now he's like on his own, independently, making his own song, giving us an idea of what his own sound is. And yeah, that while, why love, why love? There's a song on this album anyway that sounds like olamide. The his tonality, the texture of his voice, even the spacing between the beats, you can just hear that's like an olamide. That's a habit that he picked up from. So, yeah, absolutely. That's something I I've always said.

SPEAKER_02

And also, okay, you know, no, and in my opinion, Ashake needs to work with a lot more artists to bring in a lot more flavor into the songs and everything. I mean, he's great in what he does and everything, yeah. But I I think it would be beautiful to hear him along with other like great artists, rub minds together and everything, because a lot of the songs, I think he's in a place where, you know, obviously he knows his fan base, he knows what they want, right? But then he's playing around with a lot of sounds, especially on this album and everything. For example, um the Alba tune and everything, you know, that Fiji with RB, like infused in it, you know what I'm saying? Like, he's playing around with different sounds. I think this album was sound heavy, right? But then also very limited in terms of uh the creation and and the lyrics and all that stuff, right? But I think he needs to work with a lot more artists for the songs to be a lot more coercive, if that makes sense, you know. But I he's not capable of making a bad song at all.

SPEAKER_04

But it's just the same way some people are not capable of doing making a bad product, but then you can tell the workers that are not there anymore, the people that contribute heavily to the uh amazing production of the previous product, you know, and shout out again, medium is the greatest, so that's why he's called Bad Of a reason. Yeah, man, it's just amazing. Because he just yeah, the fact that he just like allowed this artist to be himself as well as contributing to his greatness, and he's gone off to do his own thing. But again, we don't want it to look like Ashakero can't hold on and hold his own. Clearly he can, but no, yeah. He's very much uh eccentric, I would say, because with that whole skating, he's such a lifestyle. Skating, skating, skating, you can just hear that. Yeah, this is what Ashakeo wanted to do before, but now he's able to do that on the Lungu boy. Now in this as well, you can hear that worship song, you can just hear that that's what Ashake. So that if Ashake was left his own devices from album one and album two, a lot of the songs would have been what we're hearing now. And now, like I said, now he's not necessarily living in Nigeria 24-7. So he's seen and hearing a lot of sounds that has like influenced his mind, his thoughts. And hey, it's good, man. It's good to see the projection.

SPEAKER_02

I think I think also, I think Ashake, I think Ashake is he's getting to that place now where you know he's a big artist, but like regardless of what people think. Now he has he has to serve different fan bases, exactly, you know, so a lot of the things that Bonaboy is suffering, Ashake will start suffering now. You know, because on the album, the previous albums and everything, he knew his fan base, he just gave it to them. Boom, boom, boom. But then with this one, you're hearing different sounds now. You get me? So his f his fan base might get maybe two or three tracks. Yeah. You know, he's having the fan base in in maybe conos. Yeah, Malibu. You got me in Malibu and all them places, you got what I'm saying? He's having this fan base here. You got so he he he he's a he he's a chef now.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, man, you know, cook for loads of other people.

SPEAKER_02

Exactly that. You know, so he will have to really find a way to diversify that shit, bro.

SPEAKER_04

But all in all, to be fair, in closing for me, all in all, I would say from the scheming, because I schemed through the album, it's not a bad album. No, it's not. And I think I need maybe two or three more listens, which I'm gonna go off and go in a deep dive as well, and just listen to it. Like, not just listen vibe, vibe, vibe, vibe, but like just sit down and listen and dissect it. And I think again, I in my opinion, this album serves a purpose. Just like that. The first two albums served a purpose. The third one, Lungo Boy, served its purpose. Now, this is gonna serve its own purpose as well. So it's like I I respect it, it's keeping straight, it's keeping true to the theme.

SPEAKER_02

They they two-pack sample as well that he used on there, yeah, hard.

SPEAKER_04

But you go I mean, but then again, it's leaning to that two-pack persona on there.

SPEAKER_02

If it is it, yeah, it's on here, it's on here.

SPEAKER_04

Shout out to my one. This is one of my favourite. This is my favorite.

SPEAKER_05

So many girls come in, my king. Can't stop walking up your mind. But since I didn't know the first, put them nigga my style. For the street with a shine, uh, go to the back. Look at the back shine, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

This is hard, bro. This is hard, bro. There's a speam out there on the internet, yeah. I don't know if it's real, I don't know if they were really vibing to that tune, but it's an Ashake and Whiskey song, right? I believe it's the East Kuller song, something like that, yeah. But it was two guys on the roof, so I think it was somewhere like in Italy or something, right there. Yeah, two white guys on the roof and all that. And one of the guys was DJing and the other guy was was fucking blazing and shit, bruv. You get me, and like you just see the both of them just fucking I love it. Just vibing like that, bro. Just vibing like that. I don't know if it's someone that put the video and the song together or if they were really doing it, but that shit was on the internet, bro. That shit was crazy. I love it. Just before we leave it, yeah, bro. Why is another tune for me though? Why love?

SPEAKER_05

Why and have you said, Must gone down.

SPEAKER_02

Bro, listen, salute to Ashake, man. Ashak this like about bro. I've heard this album right now like five times already, bro. Yeah, for real. Yeah, from the first night, the first night I was at the gym when it came out like 12 midnight or something. Yeah, they get me. I played it.

SPEAKER_04

That's less than 24 hours now. It's not 24 hours.

SPEAKER_02

No, it's more than 24 hours now. Yeah, it came out Thursday night into Friday.

SPEAKER_04

It came out on Thursday, yeah. Was it not Friday? No, 12 a.m.

SPEAKER_02

No, you got me. It's it's Thursday night into Friday, 12 midnight, isn't it?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. 12 midnight is already Friday.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it's more than 24 hours right now, bro. We are in Saturday, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. You got me. You're right. Yeah, so it came out. I was at the gym.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you're right. Bro, I was high. I was high. I was like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I was lost game.

SPEAKER_02

I'm not surprised, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not surprised. Summer time. Summer time, yeah, bro. So it was just one of them was nerfing. I heard it then. It didn't first register. That's it. You got me with just one of them was some of the songs were not cooking for me. Cool. I heard that night, woke up the next day, um, played it again.

SPEAKER_04

You go, I mean, that's now the fit started.

SPEAKER_02

Played it while I was working, actually. You go, I mean, so the speaker was obviously behind me. I'm just jamming to rare. Okay, cool. So the first time was headphones, now, now the um speaker, and then I go in the car, playing it. You go I mean, like some of the songs blend well in different environments, innit? That's what music does. You go, I mean, yeah, and a lot of the songs there cooking. So you go, I mean, a lot of songs there cooking. Then I was out last night with the boys nerfing, obviously, having a drink or whatever. I say, yo, can you put this song in here, bro? For me, you gotta say, just gonna get the vibe and all that shit. You hear me? And then obviously, this morning as well. So that's what music does for you, spiritual, man. It's true. You go, I mean, it's max.

SPEAKER_04

Every environment, different environment. There's a song, um, is for instance like Why Love. The first time I had Why Love, I was like, Oh my, what's this? Then the third time, I was like, Oh my, this scene is amazing. It's amazing. But there's some songs, first time you hear it, you know it's bangs, you know, and that that that leads me into guys. Listen, I understand predominantly this is a Nigerian, it's very, very West African.

SPEAKER_02

Do you agree? Yeah You mean you you you made a podcast? Yeah, okay. You can say that.

SPEAKER_04

No, it's predominantly that's it. So we're looking at we're seeing maybe more like 70 30. Yeah, yeah. You know, now obviously you know what I'm saying. But guys, if you're out there, please, yeah, put your um Nigerian hat or Ghanaian hat down. There's some artists around Africa cooking, bro. I'm not gonna lie. For me, I'll be honest with you, one album, and you know how much I love Ashake. Listen, any artist I give my own hard-earned money to, you know that I rate that artist. For this artist to be like, kick Ashake to the side. That's the album I've been listening to since it came out. It's a Zambian artist called Your Maps. Guys, just go check out the album. The album is called Vibes on Vibes. The man did not lie. Your maps, your maps, bruh. Your maps is as big, he's like for the past two years. I've been if you follow my reaction, you know. I reacted, bro. He can drop today. I I could be sleeping, I wake up, I have to go listen to it. The bro, the brother is just flawless, man. He's really good. Um, yeah, go check it out, man. If you have time, go. I know sometimes Nigerians can be a bit cagey.

SPEAKER_02

If he's not afraid, which of any of your songs should we check out?

SPEAKER_04

Oh, my favorite, bro. The one I've been banging the whole week, bro. Just quickly. Budget. Go check out budget from his new album.

SPEAKER_02

Budget by Yo Maps. Yeah. All right, let's check it out. Just briefly there if you uh so that people know. Let's go.

SPEAKER_04

I jumped your man.

SPEAKER_02

I think this is the minute.

SPEAKER_01

I don't think it's on the back.

SPEAKER_02

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Don't be deceived. No, no, no, no, no. I got disappointed though. What the fuck was that?

SPEAKER_04

Don't be deceived. But I thought that drop was gonna just Ah, that's what your map is doing, bro. Don't be deceived, guys. Don't be deceived. That is just to tell you guys warm up, warm up, warm up, bro. That's this song. I'm just trying this song for the first line, people. Yeah, this song is a full play. You see that bit there?

SPEAKER_02

Just wait, hold on, okay.

SPEAKER_01

Let's see. Then you carry on.

SPEAKER_04

Hey, your maps, guys, your maps. Go check out Zambian music, by the way. They are doing a lot there. You know, one thing for sure I like about Zambian music is the fact that I don't want to say unfortunately, but it's always bound to happen. You know, Nigerian music space or Nigerian Ghanaian music space is like the American music, which would always influence the way Africans start to make music because that's the most popular group of people, and their song will travel further because of the amount of people interest of God. One thing I love about Zambian music, obviously, they have a new crop of artists doing it with what we hear. Well, I would say Afrobeats, but what they're doing is very much still traditional. Like you're listening to this, man, like it's such a vibe. Man says, So take a minute, I we means like it's a word, it's an endaring term in Zambia where you know it's like how do I put it? But when someone says give us ewe, it's like give us the vibe, you know. So it's like giving, it's like them saying in how ninety justice will be like let's go, something like you know, just a term just to gas people up. So when he's saying give me, um, give um take a minute, e we breathe in, breathe out, bro. It's just cold. Like, I love what they do, they keep it so traditional and they use their language a lot. So that's even interesting because I don't speak Zambian language, right? But from there, if you love music, you know, some people learn languages from there, from just listening to music. Just the same way people now use Yash. 15 years ago, no one knew what Yash was. Do you get it? Now people know that because obviously music, pop culture. But guys, go check out Zambi Music. Amazing, amazing. Yo, maps. That album is sick. Check out another track on there called Hello. Please, sir. Pay 20 seconds.

SPEAKER_02

Oh no, you know, it's a go check it out, bro. Go check it out, bro. We should shout out. Go check it out. Guys, okay, okay, no, go check out. You know what? I'm gonna play it real quick.

SPEAKER_04

Hello, it's 10 seconds. I just want you to hear the vibe because that first one we played. Yeah, fair enough, it might sound like okay, that's like uh you know, you know, as they would say, people. Yeah, it's a fluke. Hello, hello. Just maybe 20 seconds of it, and you take out that's all right. I told you. Yeah, but guys, that's the kind of vibe you're gonna get from the album. If you like it, you like it. If you don't, it's fine. But uh, regardless, just wanted you guys to check out your maps again. I know shout out to all the other brothers in in Zambia, J Trigger, uh Modekai, and a few others that right now, uh yeah, bro.

SPEAKER_02

Listen, bro, shout out to Whatever money they paid you to promote bro, whatever money they paid you to promote. I just need some, bro. I wish because you're going too hard for the Zambians, bruv. No, I wish whatever money they paid you, bro. I need some of it.

SPEAKER_04

Please guys pay me, please, so that I'll do more.

SPEAKER_02

Listen, them Zambians, bro. You gonna check it out for them.

SPEAKER_04

Listen, because for three years now, I've always been on that. You get me? So shout out to them, man. I I feel bad because a lot of time, long time ago, I should have actually like talked about it on the podcast or in general, but I just I don't know. We just we know we're talking about David. But in general, guys, I wish they paid me, and even if they did, I would not be once up, bruv. Oh, 100%.

SPEAKER_02

Listen, if he's not gonna take you, you're not gonna pay me, bruv.

SPEAKER_04

Shout out to my Zambia, Zambia Cochalo. Let's go.

SPEAKER_02

Salute to you, man. Salute, bro. Umalele has announced that he's he's his council in London. Um, the the OVO uh arena arena, 12,000 capacity, I believe 12,500 capacity and everything in November. That'd be nice though.

SPEAKER_04

I love how they announce it time before, bro. So take a minute, breathe in, breathe.

SPEAKER_02

And you can't say that some people announce the the O2 one year. Bro, I was just saying, bro.

SPEAKER_04

Some people announced um listen, everybody's doing the attention. We prepare for it, of course. Yeah, man. We need to go there too and do gimmicks. I'm sorry, I mean, um, vibe to the songs. Well, it was an accident. I wanted to say vibe, but my brain was like, give me, give me, give me.

SPEAKER_02

This guy, bro. You don't start to give, bruv. This guy, oh my lane. This guy, anywho's bro. Fam, did you see this news that's floating on the internet? Right? I've tried to check to see the interview where it came from. I couldn't really find it. Yeah, this is Nasty C and Tyler. You get what I'm saying? So this was posted on X. I swear it on X. I was like, yo, and a lot of people were talking about it, yeah. I'm just gonna just read it out real quick.

SPEAKER_04

Is that stuff real?

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I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know. You get me. I I tried to find it, but it's getting a lot of traction. Yeah, I I even went to the South African um whatever. You get me? No, no, no, no, no. A lot of people are talking about it as well.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, okay. I thought you meant like when you went there, there was perfect. A lot of people are talking about it as well.

SPEAKER_02

You get me now, but I've tried to find an interview where that came from. I couldn't find it basically. Yeah, so someone said Tyler said her fellow country singer Nasty C once DM'd her on Instagram about a possible collaboration. She told she told him her fee was $300,000. Dollars. Mama replied, bro, and said no, Mama replied with a laughing emoji saying she is not on the level of Rihanna. Thank you me not. I don't believe this or Cadi B yet, and accused her of being rude. He also mentioned that he thought she might agree to do it for free.

SPEAKER_04

You see, now this is where I don't believe this stuff. You don't believe it, though? I don't believe it. I swear I don't believe it. I don't even trust these guys that just come up with stuff on the club.

SPEAKER_02

And then apparently he later blocked her.

SPEAKER_04

I don't believe it, man. My boy Nasty C don't do things like that, bro. That's why no one is even yeah, yeah. I don't believe that, man. Man said she said 300,000. First of all, artists wouldn't yeah, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_02

What do you mean artists wouldn't charge?

SPEAKER_04

No, no, no, we won't charge that much to another artist, to another artist that is off Last C's level. Guys, you know who Nasty C is.

SPEAKER_02

Do you know who Tyler is?

SPEAKER_04

Do you Tyler is my goat?

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_04

I know who Tyler is.

SPEAKER_02

So do you think that that Tyler would not charge 300,000? 20K.

SPEAKER_04

Brother, we're not not come on, 300,000.

SPEAKER_02

Wait, are you saying come on because she's not on that level?

SPEAKER_04

No, it's not that, it's just that it makes no sense for you to charge me 300,000 if that's a single. No, that's cannot even be your fee. How much if if I'm calling her over for a um for a concert to perform, yeah, 300,000, yeah, 100%. It's a track. We're not paying 300,000.

SPEAKER_02

Bro, I've seen artists out there, yeah, that say that listen to jump on your track is is a certain fee. I've seen it.

SPEAKER_04

Certain fee. So what's that fee? No, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_02

On the hundreds.

SPEAKER_04

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

Some people, massive difference. Some people like a Drake would even ask um um to own some of the song.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, that's exactly my point. They're not charging for you. Drake is not gonna change it.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, but which one is worse? He will make more than 200k from you then.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, it's not guaranteed the song will make anything.

SPEAKER_02

No, if a Drake jumps jumps on your tuner now.

SPEAKER_04

Should I mention names that Drake has jumped on your tuna didn't go?

SPEAKER_02

We don't need to go go down here, but but he more songs than none will take off.

SPEAKER_04

Will take off, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

You go, I mean, more songs than none will take off. So a Tyler, now do I think I wouldn't know. I don't know. I'm not a pocket watcher and everything, yeah. But I wouldn't be surprised if someone like a Tyler, bro, a multi-grammy award winner, older, yeah, is probably charging the 300k. That wouldn't be what that wouldn't be in the top five of the craziest shit I've heard in my life.

SPEAKER_04

I reckon at the most, artists are charging you at the most, like when you're like when I say at the most, I'm talking what the heck? Cap 200,000.

SPEAKER_02

What's the difference between 200 and 300?

SPEAKER_04

100. That's a lot. First of all, I said at the most, which meaning that 200 is even something unforeseen. Like, we're not even talking about that, bro. We're talking 50, 60, 70, 80. The most 100,000. Tyler not charging nasty C 300. How much is streams, guys? Are you taking up brother? This is a business. We're going into contracts. I I need to understand how am I gaining anything from here? It's not guaranteed for the song to go or blow. Okay, we're just getting exposure because maybe you've got more Western people um looking at you, or you've got that fan base. That's two, three. What the heck?

SPEAKER_02

But if Tyler tells you to pay 300k, would you pay it?

SPEAKER_04

No, I'm not paying it.

SPEAKER_02

If you're now that's the scene, I'm not paying it.

SPEAKER_04

That's what the heck is this? 300,000 is someone like a Drake, Michael Jackson, Kanye West. Fair enough. My goats charge me 300. And I and you know Tyler is my goat, right? So I'm not even trying to diss or anything, but it's get the heck out of here, man. With that, I I just know that story is a lie.

SPEAKER_02

How do you know? You don't know.

SPEAKER_04

So take a minute, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

I wouldn't outright say it's a lie, I think it's a lot. But I've looked for the source, I couldn't find it, but I wouldn't point. Yeah, but I wouldn't outright say you know that's a lie, bro.

SPEAKER_04

It's fabricated, that's what they do now. These days, if you go and X, someone who puts Toby uh slept in um in the kitchen under the sink.

SPEAKER_02

No, if it's not true, no, if it's not true, yeah, if it's not true, it'll be with um fucking Nasty C. But Nasty C hasn't even said anything about this, or like I would expect now um what's it called? Nasty C to come out and be like, yo, fake news.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, have you realized the new thing they do now? Well, they just leave it alone, they don't say anything.

SPEAKER_02

I think you noticed no, cool. But the thing is, in the story, talking about yo, he laughed at her, he blocked her. Like, a lot of people will constitute that as being rude. Like, okay, cool. The girl told you her fee, you don't want to pay, cool. Why are you telling her that she's not? I'm saying it kind of paints him in the in a bad light. Yeah, but it kind of paints him in a bad light, right? So you're saying you're on you're not on the level of a Rihanna, you're not on the level of a Beyonce and all that kind of shit, right? Cool, you can easily say, Oh no, sorry, I don't want to pay. Cool, it is what it is, but not put her down and everything. All I'm saying is the story in itself paints him in a bad light. If it was me, I wouldn't come out to address it. All I'll just put is fake news. You know what I mean? That's it. Die the whole shit.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, well, you get my point. I get your point, but again, guys, I just want you to know this story is not true. The thing new artists are doing now is something that's not true, we don't even address it, we just leave it alone. Because it's true, the internet has got days. Yeah, today this topic is hot, next tomorrow, someone dies, and we all move on. So, nasty C knows why am I addressing something that there's no concrete proof that I said this? There's no interest, like you said, if check for there's no source of you can't even see me say this. So, why am I coming out to say fake news? Fake news as well. First of all, if it was like a flyer saying I'm gonna be at a camp house performing, yes, I'll come out to say hey guys, that's fake news because people are gonna actually come out. How can you come, how can you come to a conclusion about someone's character when there's no proof of that person saying that? It doesn't even make sense. Then it will be sad for whoever sees this and start to think something of that is that person is sick in the head because yo, brother, there's no proof of me doing this.

SPEAKER_02

I didn't say this, and even the Tyler itself, that's shout out to them, man, for not even coming out and entertaining this nonsense, uh so what if if tomorrow, because as this on the internet right now, one of them is gonna go on an interview and and they're gonna ask them. No, no, and and and and they're gonna ask one of them. So, was this true? What if one of them comes out now say, Um, yeah, you know, it definitely happened all that.

SPEAKER_04

Then clip me, please. Yeah, then I'll come out to say, you know what, I got it wrong. But for now, that's what that's all it's not true. We uh we know this, but it's not true. They're just gonna and watch Nasty C is not even gonna add any food to this. When you ask him that on the interview, he's gonna laugh. I promise you, he's just not gonna go. Alright, cool. Come on.

SPEAKER_02

You hear me? I just want to feel like 300k is crazy, not gonna lie. 300k is crazy for like a single, but I've seen crazy shit. So if an artist comes out, I'll be like, I'll be like, it is what it is.

SPEAKER_04

Guys, when you're fabricating your stuff for engagements and for whatever, try to cook your lie properly. Like the person that would have bought this lie if you had said she he said, um she said, sorry, um 60k, then go with your story. The narrative will bang. I'll be like, oh yeah, 300. That's where you flopped. Whoever was cooking this lie, that 300 is where you messed up, you put too much salt. Yeah, next time, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Bro, before we leave, yeah. Last couple of days, I've been seeing a lot of video from South Africa, and I'm so disappointed, bro. Because that's one of my favorite places to visit. You know what I mean? I was in South Africa last month, Cape Town. Absolutely amazing, amazing people, had a wonderful time, order, you know, looking to go back again. But some of the videos with the whole xenophobia thing, and literally you see people, bro, going into people's shops and pull them out, pull them out, beating them up and everything, and obviously the people are immigrants and everything. This whole narrative that immigrants are taking your job. I want people to understand that this is the lies from politicians or from people in power who are telling you don't look too deep into the corruption that we are part of. Right? You love what it does in power, we can't do our fucking job. We are terrible at our job, but we're gonna make you believe that the people, that the reason why your your bombish life is terrible, yeah, is because of some immigrant who came into your country, scrapped and worked hard, and opened a shop, scrapped and worked hard, and contributed to your economy. That that's the problem right there. While you you are born in your country, you decide not to go to school, you you decided to be a fucking bomb, yeah, you decided to be an an illiterate, you probably have not left your neighborhood your whole fucking life, yeah, you've not seen the world, you refuse to educate yourself. I'm not talking, I'm I'm not talking about sitting in a classroom, educate yourself, right? But you're turning around and say, oh, this next person that came into my country 15 years ago is the reason why I'm not succeeding in life. You know what I'm saying? And you see that narrative being sold, whether in South Africa, whether in Europe, in the West, whether in America, and you see all those politicians looting money.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, it's low-hanging fruit, isn't it?

SPEAKER_02

It's a very low-hanging fruit, and you see the people that buy into that shit. Now, do I think that okay, there are conversations that should be had when it comes to immigration policies and everything? I get that. We can have that all day, right? But to make yourself feel better, to cope with where you are in life, and so oh, the reason why my life is terrible is because this person came into my country. You have to be the dumbest person ever. I know, man. You get what I'm saying? And when I look at that and see South Africans engaging in that shit, and this is not a new shit, this xenophobia shit has been going on, but now social media is bringing it out to the forefront, you know, and I'm more disappointed in South Africans that are saying, No, um, I'm not participating in it, but you're not speaking up against it. You know what I mean? You're not speaking up, bro. These people are walking into hospitals, yeah, pulling out sick people.

SPEAKER_04

And is this happening what part of South Africa?

SPEAKER_02

Um, so I spoke to my brother, right? He lives in South Africa now. You got what I'm saying? He already he's working in South Africa, and he said that you don't really see that in Cape Town. Of course. I was just getting it. You know what I mean? That's happening like in the countryside or in the rural areas, yeah, and those sort of things. You know what I'm saying? And that was the reason why when I was within South Africa and everything, a lot of people say, Oh, don't go to Joe Bug, Joe Bug is dangerous and all that kind of shit. I've never been there, so I can't speak on it. I'm just saying what people said to me. But when I was with my brother, I said, Yo, fam, is this really happening on the streets and all that shit? He said, It's it's more of like the rural areas, exactly, you know, it's not really happening in the city, like a Cape Town. He said, bro, if that shit happens in Cape Town, bro, the police is gonna run that shit down. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you know, but it's just sad, bro.

SPEAKER_04

It is sad because again, that's what the internet does. The internet would show you something and magnify it in such a way that it's disproportionate to get it. So, if someone, for instance, now let's say we're just I don't know, like during the riots in 2011, it was happening when it first started, it started in Tottenham, right? Then he obviously spread into South London and stuff like that. It was happening in London, but some people will be like, oh, in the United Kingdom. So which would you you're thinking to yourself, so raw. So it's happening in um what's it called? Um Northern Ireland, it's happening in Wales. Do you get it? Even though you went to all the other parts and cities in London, yeah, you're not sure like which part. So now you're scared to go. It's like when they say, Oh, there's gun violence, no, knife um crime in London. Yeah, if you're not specific, you're like, oh man, I don't want to go to London. Do you get it? So but if I say to you there's knife crime in London, in Lewisham or in Brixton, then you know. And that's one thing that's happening in South Africa. It's happening for the it's been happening for the longest time. Now, I'll tell you guys this. This has nothing to do, it's just the mentality, the average mentality of a South African. I don't rate it anyway. So I'm good. And when I don't rate something really, I don't really I've never said to myself, I'm gonna travel to South Africa. If I do, I do. If I don't, I'm fine. Do you get it? And what's then gonna happen is it's gonna have it's gonna leave this negative stigma as time goes on, like you said, in those rural areas that people would people immigrants are going there to maybe even help contribute and build the place up. There was no one is gonna go there, so you guys are gonna be left in your rut and suffer because some to an extent gentrification could help some of these places in in South Africa. You know what I'm saying? But now people be scared to I don't want to invest there, man. What's the point? Because I can't even live there or do anything, and then guess what, guys? It affects you. So technically, this makes no sense. No technically, actually, for real, for real, it makes no sense. You're looking at another black brother, but you of a race, bro.

SPEAKER_02

It's so crazy because you're you're mad at people that look like you, you're mad at other Africans, you're mad at yourself, you got me. It it it is just the colonialism mindset.

SPEAKER_04

You get me like imperial imperialism, yeah, as well.

SPEAKER_02

You know, because you're saying that the white man is your problem, but then you're actually you're also fighting against a black man that looks like you.

SPEAKER_04

But did you see that video? They went to like a neighborhood where it's like with loads of white guys and they chased them out, bro.

SPEAKER_02

They beat the shit out of them, bro. They beat the shit out of there, bro.

SPEAKER_04

That's what I like to see as Obafia DeForgan. Bro, that's the one.

SPEAKER_02

I was I was happy that to see them white people just stand their ground, smacked them, beat the shit out of them, bro.

SPEAKER_04

There's one guy that I don't know what he was thinking. Um, they've smacked the other black guy, so he thought, oh, let me step forward, bro. Bro, bro, they wrapped him up, bro.

SPEAKER_02

Merry Face Man's bruv.

SPEAKER_04

Literally, merry face.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I mean, merry face mass or my man, bruv. You got me. I saw that video, bro. You get me. I was so happy, yeah. You know, because some of them people are just idiots, bruv.

SPEAKER_04

I swear down. What I can't believe you're stepping up to a guy and saying, How long have you been here? Where are you from? Man said, I'm from because the country in Africa. Oh, you know, you're not meant to be. What do you mean you know you're not meant to be? I've probably seen you Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. I've said wave for years. Suddenly now I'm not meant to be.

SPEAKER_02

I saw a video, I believe they asked guy, yo, where you from? I think he said Congo. The lady was asking him, So, why didn't you go to the next country by Congo? Why did you travel with these other countries girls to Africa? Like, bro, that shit was so crazy, bro. You know, it just wanted to be like that's the most ignorant thing I've ever heard. And bro, and the way these people rob taxi drivers over there, the way they rob track. What?

SPEAKER_07

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_02

I don't even know why the taxi guys allow them to sit on the front seat with them. Because what they should have done is to put some sort of like a bulletproof glass between them, you have to stay in the back. They have guns, yeah. Yeah, bro.

SPEAKER_04

Allowed to, I think, yeah, they're allowed to be.

SPEAKER_02

Fam, if you go on X and everything, yeah, the way they pop each other there, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

It's about you, them guys are crazy.

SPEAKER_02

Fam, the way they pop each other over there, drinking, smoking, that was a there was one that I saw, yeah, in the city center, I think maybe a market or whatever. My man was just there, just having a chat with another guy. You can see from the C T V, yeah, that you can see this guy just walk past him, walk past him with his guy, walk past him behind him, and just turned around, put out a gun and shot him straight to the head and just walked away, bro. The C T V was just right there, just watching. The way they pop each other over there is crazy.

SPEAKER_04

Give me vibes of Brazil. That's bro, that's nuts. Them them rural areas are nuts.

SPEAKER_02

I was chatting to a guy who I work with, a white, a white English guy. Um, he used to date this South African Jewish girl, so he moved to Cape Town, they lived together for some time. He was telling me stories, bro. He was like, yo, that place is it's nice when you visit, no, yeah, but at some point, bro, that place is crazy. Yeah, you got me.

SPEAKER_04

Because you see people getting robbed, just going on a broad daylight.

SPEAKER_02

You see people getting high, bro. People are just people are just walking zombies and that, bro. Yeah, it's mad. You got me south. Oh rather, they need to um sod their shit together, bro. Yeah, man. You got me, bro. Bro, yeah, that's it. Yeah, man. It's been a good one. You know, we want to salute every single one of you out there, man. Go check out the videos, engage, engage, engage. Clip farm, clip it out, share with your friends, make sure, leave comments, leave likes, all that stuff. You get what I'm saying? Is your boy Toby Mr. Banks and your boy Banks? Your mom. Listen, I hope you guys have a wonderful weekend. Make sure you do. It is a bank holiday over here. So everyone is chilling and that you go on. Let's go. You know, and I hope you guys have a good week. We will see you guys next weekend. Until then. Peace, yo.

SPEAKER_01

Salute, let me pass my life.

SPEAKER_02

What the boss

SPEAKER_05

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