Ep 300 | Low Hanging Fruits

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Amapiano Vs Afrobeats 
Arsenal wins the Premier League, Champions League Finals 
Afrobeats artists making Low IQ music 
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SPEAKER_03 0:00

What's up, people? It's your boy Toby, and this is Fresh of the Boat Show. Listen, I want to thank every single one of you that have been supporting us, watching these videos, leaving likes and leaving comments. It is important that you don't only watch the videos or you click the like button as well because it helps push the videos through the algorithm and for people to see it. You know, because unfortunately, this is the way YouTube is and this is the way the streaming platforms are and everything, you know, because we are trying to build this platform for our culture and for you as well. And also, it gives us the motivation to come here every weekend and record and everything because we enjoy doing it, but we also need you guys to support us as well. You get what I mean? So do that.

SPEAKER_16 0:49

I love what he said. She's cold, fire cheers. I can hear Drake on this, you know. I swear I can hear Drake on this.

SPEAKER_15 1:06

Fresh Prince of Belette. I'm at the Gate. Fuck on Ballet. I keep everything correct. Fresh Prince of Bele. I'm at the cate. I guess that you want Chana Chanel Fuck on Ballet. I keep everything correct.

SPEAKER_14 1:43

No, I checked the great bro.

SPEAKER_15 1:45

Black boy. I take it only the best artist in Nigeria. Black in the country with a boost.

SPEAKER_04 2:00

Yeah, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7.

SPEAKER_14 2:26

What? No, I take it correct.

SPEAKER_15 2:30

Fresh Prince of Bellet. I'm gonna take a yoga. I guess you want shadow shut up for combat. Now keep everything correct.

SPEAKER_14 2:46

Fresh Prince of Bellet. Hey, I'm gonna take a yoga. Why no? Why? Why?

SPEAKER_03 2:57

Bro, bro, bro. Bro, how many times I call you? Once here the song, bro. I've heard it.

SPEAKER_16 3:17

We are gonna talk. This song can be a little bit more. We are gonna talk. We are gonna talk. Cannot be competition now at all.

SPEAKER_02 3:49

It's coming, bro. He's coming, pop up. It's coming, pop up. It's over there.

SPEAKER_03 4:58

Bro, listen. Yeah, people like you, people like you, yeah, are part of problem that we have, bro. People like you and the likes like you are part of the problem that we have, brother. Yeah. How can you look what I noticed? Yeah, let me tell you what I noticed. First of all, yeah, I'm so pissed. Yeah, that EP between Benson and Sars came and just went.

SPEAKER_16 5:25

No, it didn't. I mean, I mean Oh, you mean it's not like in the algorithm. That's my point.

SPEAKER_03 5:29

It came and went. Yeah, the people that understand music that appreciate good music, yeah, appreciate that EP. These are two geniuses that came together and created what they create. Seriously, right? Okay, let's just wait. Hold on. But the thing is, what I've noticed is in our culture, yeah, we love TikTok songs.

SPEAKER_16 5:50

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 5:51

Okay, you go I mean, if it's not TikTok kind of trendy type of songs, it won't blow up. Yeah, we do not appreciate it, bro. How can you, my friend, yeah, sit here because I'm gonna call your eye in front of the camera, bruh. Yeah, just make sure you don't lie, but I'm not gonna hey listen. Even if I lie, so be it. You gotta say, even if I lie, even if I lie, so be it. Go for it. How can I be playing um Benson's EP? Yeah, with SARS, and you are making all the time, man, bruh, bruh, bruh, bruh. And then you are like, yo, we need to play Chanel by Blackbones, yeah, which is cool. That's a cool song. It's not one of the best songs out there, in my opinion. I like it, but it's it goes back into what I said. We love, we love TikTok type of song. Like, let him know. To me, to me, that's some like low IQ type of songs, right?

SPEAKER_16 6:53

Okay, okay. Are you finished? Let me know. To those that know me, right? You know I'm the worst person on earth. When it comes to songs that are too commercial, that TikTok ready. I hate songs like that. That's why I had issues with a lot of these like David O songs. No shots at David. I'm just saying, some of the other side, but I'll be honest with you guys. Yeah, three weeks ago, I was just on TikTok randomly. Again, I hate TikTok songs, and they've called me out on social media for that, saying, What did that guy call me? I'm a hater, or uh, just because he's on TikTok don't mean it's less of a song. Okay, uh I just don't like the idea that people just do that on purpose. But you see, Black Bones Chanel, I don't want to big on, I don't really big on myself, but today I'm begging on myself. I'm a music guy, bro. It took me three seconds to know that this tune is fire, and them times he's not even thought of releasing it. He was just like playing with the tune on there. I was like, the melody is sick, and black bones is good for that, you know. He's really good with that melodious type of rap. So in my head, I was like, mm-mm mm. And I was like, rah, this song is sick. Fast forward to two weeks later, he's like, Oh, should I drop this song? I was like, ah. I thought we were joking here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course, it's a joke. Are we really gonna drop this? Cool. Fast forward again to the week later. I'm seeing Black Bones feature on Ashake. I was like, No way, this cannot be real. This song is gonna come out Ashake on it. I was like, I can't wait to hear it, guys. Long story short, the song dropped. That is a no, no, no, no, no, no. No, please. This is the first song on ever that's made it to number one in that song called You Guys' Charts that I actually believe.

SPEAKER_03 8:26

Yeah, yeah, but this is the thing, though. You are not talking about what I'm talking about. Yes, the song's a good song, yeah. Nobody's debating it.

SPEAKER_16 8:32

Yeah, I was gonna get to I was gonna talk about the song itself.

SPEAKER_03 8:34

Yeah, nobody's debating that. Okay, you get me. Even to be honest with you, I listen to the song maybe like once or twice and everything. I've heard better songs and everything. You know what I'm saying? Like to me, the song didn't really do anything for me. Okay, if that makes sense, yeah. That doesn't mean that the song is a bad song. But the thing is, I've noticed that in our culture, yeah, that's right, we do not appreciate good songs, good songs, yeah. That it's not like your TikTok trendy, have this one-word phrase or whatever catchy type of shit. You go saying that's the inner like bro, this EP came and went, bro.

SPEAKER_16 9:07

It's not our fault that the EP came and went for those people. Like me, obviously, the EP is okay. Again, I always say to sometimes you have to take accountability for whatever you're dropping. Benson, as much as he's really talented, he's definitely one of the most monotonous artists you ever find. Like, he's he reminds me of those. I don't know if you guys have had okay. To those people that live in London, you might know and talk about Ka. That drink, you can't have two bottles, it's too sweet. That's how I feel Benson's music is and his voice. Do you know what I mean? Talented guy, really like him. I think he's one of maybe top 10 in his in his generation. But yeah, that the EP is alright. Tobes is absolutely right. Those two together, you can tell they're making music. No, they're just making music. They just don't, yeah, let's make some. No, no, no, no, no. They are not playing around. Fantastic. That's why it is what's the EP called again?

SPEAKER_03 9:55

Um, something um the something needs to make there you go. I'll be honest with you.

SPEAKER_16 10:01

The game doesn't really need you, Benson, that much. It needs SARS because SARS is the producer. No, I've got no. I think the game needs to be we are happy that Benson, you're part of it. Do you know what I'm saying? I'm not saying that oh no, we should no no no. Benson is one of those guys. I'm just being honest. But you see, Chanel is the perfect song. If you're trying to make uh trendy, catchy songs, bro, that's the standard.

SPEAKER_03 10:21

So are you saying that the game needs Chanel?

SPEAKER_16 10:23

Right now, please. No, no, let me finish. For for what these people are trying to do, like break the fourth wall and make it to that. That is a song I can hear somewhat like uh um I'll give you just random central C on. I know it's a far, it's a stretch. Even with Drake, that beat, whoever, you know. I need to go search who the producer is. That song is called Bro, listen. I can see why Ashake jumped on it, bro.

SPEAKER_03 10:44

No, no, it's sick. No, see, the song's a good song and everything, yeah. No shots at Ashake or or Blackbones. I call them type of songs low-hanging fruit type of songs.

SPEAKER_16 10:56

Absolutely, really well.

SPEAKER_03 10:58

But that's my point, though. I think at some point we need to raise our palettes, yeah, as a culture, yeah, to appreciate songs, like real songs, not your trendy TikTok type of songs, if I'm making sense, right? Those sort of songs and everything, you can never you you you barely go wrong with it because of the type of beat it is, you know what I'm saying? And and you can just play around with it. But what Saz and Benson created, yeah, not everybody can do that. I'm sorry. Absolutely the kind of songs that Thames is creating, not everybody can do that.

SPEAKER_16 11:33

Yeah, but those sort of voices, you need a good voice.

SPEAKER_03 11:36

That's my point. That's my point. So when I when when I listen to you respectfully say that, yo, the game doesn't really need Benson and everything. Yeah, the game does. Like people like us, there are people like us that appreciate good songs. Honestly speaking, bro, that's the reason why I sort of put people like him, people like Thames, over a lot of these people. My only knock with Benson is his work ethic. One, and then two, I think he is collab and future heavy, which in my opinion, when it comes to like things like tour and everything, yeah, a lot of his songs, okay. The same um backlash that you gave to this guy's from Ghana, um R2Bs, R2Bs, yeah, where you're like, yo, all their hits is like collab and futures and everything, yeah. You can say that about Benson too. You get me so he has a lot of that. Sometimes I kind of wish that he can stand on his feet more often, even though he's done it, like he has his own albums and everything. Yeah, but it's like that's a lot of collab and everything because just said the same thing, yeah. Yeah, because when I look at him and everything, you kind of have to ask yourself, all right, bro, are you a veteran in the game or are you still uh up and coming rookie? Because you kind of move like you're a rookie up and coming, which he's not at this point. He should be a veteran in the game, but that's a lot of collab EPs, EPs, EPs. You get what I'm saying? Yeah, and then I guess my question is why do you think he doesn't connect with uh the mainstream culture like that? Himself, Benson, Benson, not the futures. He has monster futures out there, but what do you think the disconnect is?

SPEAKER_16 13:19

Again, like I said from the start, I repeat the the game does not need him, the game needs SARS more. Sars is the orchestrator, SARS is the producer, SARS is the creator, the curator behind all of this amazing stuff people are gassed about. I promise you, and the hence further strengthens my point. This brother is he's when he's paired with someone, he he's really great. But himself, you just said as well. It's like we're not too sure where where to put him, as much as he's very talented.

SPEAKER_03 13:47

No, no, that's that's what I'm that's not. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_16 13:49

I'm saying in a nutshell, basically saying, like, you don't know if he's a veteran, like somehow the way he moves to an extent, it's like the way veteran or uh yeah, the way he drops music, right?

SPEAKER_03 13:58

Exactly. Because as a veteran, for example, Drake, don't try that number, like just run the artist and everything, yeah. You barely get, yes, Drake has a collab album with 21 Savage, he has a collab album with Future, right? He has a collab album with Patines though, you get what I'm saying, but most times he's he's also doing his own shit.

SPEAKER_16 14:22

That's what I'm saying. That's why the game does not need the person like that. That's why my point I'm just trying to um what's it called, buttress my point to say the game needs SARS, so I can imagine that SARS gave he SARS came up with the title of that EP. You know what I'm saying? Because I'll be honest with you, I can do without Benson in a sense, but we generally can't do without most of these producers. Like these producers actually carry the scene, it's just that unfortunately they're not the face of all of the music you hear. Like, even the Chanel, I'm guessing right now, the beat alone is incredible. Do you know what I'm saying? So the game needs us and yeah, but you can say that about a lot of artists, though. Pretty much all the artists, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 14:58

So, so, and that's the reason why I don't think it's it's um a Benson thing. A lot of artists, in my opinion, the producer, you know, I'll give the producer about let's say 60-70%. The artist might get might get 30, some artists even five. Yeah, if I'm saying so you can say that about that.

SPEAKER_16 15:20

No, that's what I'm saying. In general, for most artists, hence why again, sorry guys, I'm repeating myself. Hence why the game does not really need the Benton. The game is really, we're really like appreciative of his efforts and his contribution. But we can do with our best thing. That's that's just facts. That's just me being honest. Um it's not this, by the way. You have to be able to understand and comprehend together. It's not this, it's me. That means you know, if SARS said, Oh, I'm not making beats anymore, of course, then maybe in the future we'll have another producer that might be better than SARS. But just look at how many producers have come like literally under SARS and they've influenced the scene, bro. It's incredible. So I'm saying, yes, going back to that EP, the EP, I'll be honest with you. The EP is good, it's not earth shattering that we're gonna be talking about for norms. No, it's not because I'll tell you one thing for free Asheke and Whiskey dropped an EP this year in January. If we go based on the common, it's common gone, kinda, that's what's happened to it. But if you check the charts, just the people that love the charts, the the some songs are still on there. So you know what I'm saying? There's some songs still on the charts from that EP.

SPEAKER_03 16:26

Yeah, yeah, the songs, yeah. The songs that are on the chart are are are barely because of because of the names. Yeah, that's not the artist. No, that's what I'm trying to say. You know what I mean? Because because if we're really gonna have that real that conversation, that real conversation, bro. Yeah, if we're really gonna have that conversation, I think the game right now is there for the taking.

SPEAKER_16 16:44

What do you mean?

SPEAKER_03 16:45

I think the areas are open.

SPEAKER_16 16:47

Oh, yeah, that's an opening right now. That's a vacuum right now.

SPEAKER_03 16:50

Yeah, the game is looking for who's gonna take it over and lead. I think the likes of Wiz Kid, I think the likes of um Davido, Bonaboy, I think it's just names only, bro. Yep, the Halo effect musically, Halo effects, musically, they are not where they are right now. You know what I mean? That doesn't mean, because this is where comprehension comes in, that doesn't mean that they are not dropping good songs.

SPEAKER_08 17:13

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 17:13

You get what I'm saying? But I I would look at them as let's say a Jay-Z, right? Jay-Z is not like back in the day, if that makes sense, right? He's a veteran now. Yeah, so it's the name still carries effect, you get me, but when it comes to the way the game is right now, hip-hop is Drake. If you get what I'm saying, when I look at these guys right now, yeah, they just have the name and the face. But in terms of music, music, no, they're not leading it at all. Because, for example, we were having that conversation just before we started and everything, yeah. That song Um Shakira and Bonaboy trash. And I didn't even listen to it.

SPEAKER_16 17:58

And you know what? I could not even listen to it. It's it's exactly what Tobes has said. Uh obviously, I listened to it and I reacted with the song as well. I don't think it's trash, but it actually exceeded my expectations, but it's not a song that I'll go back to listen to. I will on the replay value. Out of 10, I'll give the replay value of four. I'll be honest, but it's not a bad song. And that again, those songs like that were made for the bigger audience that don't know nothing about Afro B. That's my point, right there.

SPEAKER_03 18:28

I I understand the business mind behind it, why someone like a burner boy will jump on it because of the Latin market and everything. I get that. I understand the business, and to me, that's what you know the bigger you get as an artist, for the most part, you are making decisions based on dollar signs and pound signs and everything. You are not making it based on the creativity part of it. You get what I'm saying? To an extent, yeah. Yeah, to an extent, which goes back to the conversation that we had just before we went on a break and everything, that a lot of people wanted to kill me for. That I said, I think Bonner Boy should take a break. A lot of people didn't understand what I was saying. A lot of people thought I was saying that he is poo-poo and trash, right? Like, dude, he has been he's been dominating for time, right? He's been on top of the game for time, right? At some point, you're gassed. He is gassed at the moment. That doesn't mean that he's still not a bonab boy, but he is gassed. And that's the reason why this past year, in my opinion, it was a very it was just there. The album came and went, all the features that he was doing were just uh there. You know what I'm saying? Like I said, when you look at Michael Jordan, when he was in the league and everything, he dominated, he went triple for three years. He had to take a break, came back, refreshed, and took over again. To me, that's what a bonner boy needs. You get what I'm saying? But everybody heard it, thought that I was saying that he's so trash and all that he should retire. But unfortunately, we are in a culture where a lot of people do not think to understand, and believe you me, some artists, some artists, I'm not gonna mention their name because I I respect these people, and obviously it's a conversation between us, reached out to me in my DMs and said, bro, you're right. You know what I'm saying? On God in heaven, I'm not even making it up. You know what I'm saying? Say, bro, you're right. Because if you understand music, you understand exactly what I'm talking about. You get me? And I see a lot. It's like we are always looking for the low-hanging through, the up-and-coming artists. Okay, what is gonna catch? And then the older artists, they are not making music based on the musicality of it, based on the creativity of it now. It's all business. I'm I want to tap into this market, I want to tap into that market, so I'm just gonna jump on whatever you get, and to me, it kind of fucks me up because it is really affecting the where we are as a culture.

SPEAKER_16 21:09

So that means people like CK have to take a break there.

SPEAKER_03 21:14

I think people like CK need some work to do.

SPEAKER_16 21:18

Have you heard his latest song? They need to work harder. African African men like Nash, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 21:23

There you go.

SPEAKER_16 21:24

That's my point.

SPEAKER_03 21:26

That's my point.

SPEAKER_16 21:27

Hey yo, CK, look at me. Camera or me, CK. If you don't cut that crap, what nonsense are you doing, bro? Like, I don't care what why guys hire, bro. That's my point. Man say African girls, uh African, um, African men like Nyash.

SPEAKER_03 21:41

Yeah, you know what I mean? Which which goes back to my shit like is this the fault? Is this the artist trying to cater to the market, what the market wants, or is this just we just don't have no, it's not that so the the artists that can stand on their own and move the tide towards them like. Temps did.

SPEAKER_16 22:00

So the idea for most artists, really and truly, if you're exceptional like your Times, you don't need the algorithm. The algorithm works for you. See people like Times, the algorithm works for them. But some of these other artists, they're working for the algorithm. So that's why they'll make songs like Africa Managing and stuff like that, right? Because they need that shock of value to be in people's conversation. Like the conversation we're having right now. There's a lot of artists in Nigeria right now, not even just in Nigeria, Africa are making amazing songs. But the songs they're making are something very much. How do I put it? They're not standing out because they're not like weird topics, they're not shock value, they're just songs, you know.

SPEAKER_03 22:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_16 22:50

Now, some people would rely on other massive artists to shine the light on those artists. Like let's say, for instance, a quiz or Burnout Boy goes, let's say you're making music and you make a song that to you a great song. Musicality is on point. Your what's it called? Uh the melody, the sonics are great, and for some reason Spotify shuffles your song, and maybe Burner Boy was with his people, and the song came on, it's like, oh, who's that guy? And they say, Oh, it's Tobes, this new artist, and he posts it on his um he doesn't have to play the song, he just puts like a new screenshot of the song on his finger. Before you know it, everyone's like, ah, let me go hear that song. That's what some people would hope for. But the idea of you just like you know, I would say for lack of a better word, blow in that sense is now gonna be so difficult because everyone is dropping a lot of nonsense. So imagine dropping loads of nonsense every single day. It's gonna be hard for you now, with amazing music, to just stand out like that in a place where people are paying for this, paying for that, they'll pay for this blog to carry their music, they'll pay for this um salacious um what do you call it headlines because they just want to trend. Like I said, Halo effect. Halo effect is when an artist or footballer or any entertainer has passed their peak and now it's just their reputation working for them. Case in point, Burner Boy, DVD, Whiskey, uh Lamy Day, all these other artists. They're still great, but a lot of times it's just their reputation doing the work for them. Yeah, they could come on on the on the mic and do and the producer could loop it over and over. People would be like, that's a banger. That's that's how life is, unfortunately. You know, even like this. Uh I guarantee you there's probably a young kid now watching us right now. Like, you know, I want to be a podcaster because I see Tobs and Bangs doing it. Could just be one kid, right? And he would try to emulate what we're doing. We now could get to a point where we can just come in and just say, Oh, did you see the guys boxing? We could just say nonsense for an hour. People are like, oh, that's a great episode. Do you know what I'm saying? It's like, uh, because the people are already used to us, and that's why they just want to hear our voices, they don't care what we're saying. Yeah, and that's what Afro Beats is turned into, bro. That's what it's turned into. People just want to hear them guys do their thing.

SPEAKER_03 25:11

That's crazy, bro. But I'm not gonna lie to you, bro. Listen, have you heard this on?

SPEAKER_00 25:19

You ain't gotta say too much, just show me some. Last time I got too drunk, now I always sunk. Keep listening, bro. Keep listening, bro. Get behind it, I'ma throw it like a tantrum. This ain't a love song, baby. This a dance song. It's your dance on, get your dance done.

SPEAKER_03 25:43

It's coming, it's coming, it's coming, it's coming.

SPEAKER_02 25:55

That's a deal. That's or deal.

SPEAKER_16 26:04

Oh no, I've heard this though.

SPEAKER_12 26:06

Oh, I didn't get the first the beginning.

SPEAKER_16 26:08

I don't know for some reason I've never I I've heard this shit. I've heard this shit.

SPEAKER_12 26:14

I think about the words that you can say. I might be not your love, but I'm not lazy.

SPEAKER_00 26:23

You ain't gotta say too much and show me stuff. Last time I got too drunk.

SPEAKER_03 26:27

Bro, listen, that's lotto.

SPEAKER_16 26:30

That's lotto for my new EP or album which won't be. But I'll call it EP or whatever it is. Yeah, that's you know that first bit, I did not hear it. Is it? I did not hear it. I'll fuck with it. Um, when I started hearing the song was from that whisked spot. Mm-mm-mm. That's that's pretty good. I'll fuck with it. I'll fuck with it. Yeah, the song is a good song.

SPEAKER_03 26:48

Oh, yeah, it's a good song, everything. Then D hear um future with Tyler. Oh come on, Tyler is my goats, man. Come on. Future with Tyler, nothing for the um for the World Cup and that. Tyler is my goats. Yeah, I'm just gonna play it real quick, yeah. Real quick.

SPEAKER_11 27:04

Where is it? Boom. Funny thing about your problems that you ain't, man. Staying up to the late night. 20 seconds to game time. Getting religious with it. Time crossing the state, man. Working hard through the late night. 20 seconds to game time. I see the stars in the sky, and the thing is in the top of it. Oh yeah, oh yeah, people stop with me, trying to be clacking me. Hey, it's for the one that came out of it. It's for the one that's turning in the world. It's for the fan, my family trust for the picket number.

SPEAKER_02 28:06

I'm waiting for the cellar to come in.

SPEAKER_06 28:12

Oh, if you don't wanna win, I can spill it. And what you don't want to swim, you don't wanna swim in on the pickle but you don't want to swim in a phone. I don't want to pink one, I got the pink.

SPEAKER_16 28:47

This is really this is really good as one compared to bro.

SPEAKER_03 28:51

I'm telling you, bro. This is the kind of shit that I want to see. Somebody's people jumping on everything. Y'all giving me um um Kai Kai Kai Kai, whatever that song is, bro. I don't know the name of that shit, bro. I'm ti I'm I'm so sick and tired of this people. They say Kai Kai. Is that is that not the name of the song? What's the name of the song again? I might be tripping, but what's the name of that song again? It's not Kai, Kai. Kai, is you know Alemade? No, no, no. I'm talking about the bottom one with Shakira. Oh, don't you? Die, die, die, die. That die.

SPEAKER_16 29:19

Oh, have you had the Remus one? World Cup song. Oh no, Lisa and Rema. Lisa, Rema, and the other cover. Just with Lisa and Rema, you should come up. Let me see. Let me let me just check it out. World Cup song.

SPEAKER_03 29:33

Goals, yeah, that's the one.

SPEAKER_16 29:34

Yeah, Rema' spazed on that still.

SPEAKER_07 32:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_16 32:12

I love the gloves he wore in the video, bro. Green white, that's a sick glove, Remo. Sick glove. I like it, I like it. With the ball, and yeah, that's sick. Nice. But that's those are the moves I like to see from this artist. Like, you know what I'm saying? I love the way how he had to dumb down no disrespect to the buttons what the song requires. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No deep lyrics, just flex a little bit. Yeah, just play around in there. Just play around there. So it's about football shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's the type of song.

SPEAKER_03 32:36

Yeah, it's about football shit, bro. Bro, listen. Do you know what? Hey, salute all of them though. Bro, talking about football, bro. Talking about football, my guy. If I listened to you, if I was a betting man, which I am sometimes, but if I listened to you, yeah, I would have been out of money, bro. Because the conviction in your voice about what? When you were telling me that Arsenal was not gonna win.

SPEAKER_16 33:04

Yeah, that's coming from hate, you know. It's gonna be the Premier League, bro.

SPEAKER_03 33:06

I was I was like, But also in the minute, I was listening to my man thinking, yo, my man is a coach and everything, bro. Maybe he knows what he's talking about.

SPEAKER_16 33:13

I do know what I'm saying, bro. But guess what? Well, it's funny how everyone talks about the Arsenal one, no one remembers that. I tell people I told everyone that came to listen that Tottenham is not getting relegated.

SPEAKER_03 33:24

I think everyone knew that. No, no, no, I think everybody knew that. No way. Yeah, I think everybody knew that. I knew that because this is the thing, right? Regardless of how shit they are, right? They have uh uh uh would you say a better or higher quality of players than the bottom teams?

SPEAKER_16 33:43

Three weeks, impossible. Half of the squad was injured. Uh to those people that know what I'm talking about, you know what I'm saying. Everyone was like, oh, it's mate, sorry, mate, they're gone. I was like, no, they're not going anywhere.

SPEAKER_03 33:57

Yeah, but the thing is, right, regardless of you see these clubs Tottenham, Arsenal, Maya United, Chelsea, City, Liverpool, right? Regardless of how shit they might be throughout the season, yeah, it's gonna be hard to see them get relegated because of the quality of players that they have. And that's what I'm trying to say.

SPEAKER_16 34:18

Yes, you're right, but the truth is everyone was banking literally on what he's just said now. Oh, they've got quality, blah blah blah. Uh oh, four more games in. It did not look like that. Why? Because all the quality players gone, they were injured, there was no one, so they were just playing, you know what I'm saying? But shout out to everyone though. I told you turn in the game again. I'm not gonna lie, bro. But one thing for sure, though, I can put something on, yeah. Le Monsieur Le Croissant, the Champions League, let's uh beats belts to us.

SPEAKER_03 34:50

Bro, listen, I don't know, bro. I don't know. PSG, let's sprinkle water because this is the thing that we're asking. Yeah, they're always trying to they find a way. I know people criticize them because of the set piece and everything, but they find a way to win. You get what I'm saying? And everything that I've been hearing is bro, let them not make a mistake. Yeah, let PSG not make a mistake and consider go because Arsenal's gonna park a truck, a train, bruv. You get me? Like you and bro, they will break somebody's is you see. This is the one about Arsenal fans, uh um Arsenal players now back in Hun Rare time and all that, yeah, there were aja bucket, in it. You get me? They had aja bucket and everything now, bro, is our we're kids there, bro. You get what I'm saying? They are playing, like yo, if you fuck about, we are taking out your ankles, bro. We don't give a shit.

SPEAKER_16 35:38

The only reason I would love Arsenal to ever win something, which as much as I I hated on Arsenal, I'm still hating on him, and I don't want him to win anything, is because I'm a massive fan of Ateta's philosophy, how he coaches, and his all of that. I'm I'm a massive fan of Arteta, you know what I'm saying? Who's gonna stop him now, though? Because when you think about it now, Liverpool just fired their coach, and they're they've they've literally just signed one of the best managers, young managers.

SPEAKER_03 36:03

Andone Irayola. What I'm trying to say is it is open now because the last decade, yeah, Pep had the the league on a stronghold. In my opinion, the the person that could have really competed with him was um Klopp. Not even Klopp.

SPEAKER_16 36:22

Uh yeah, it was the only club that gave him a very good runner, yeah, but still he was still smashing it.

SPEAKER_03 36:27

Um what's this guy's name again? He was United coach and then he went to Real Madrid now. Oh Mourinho. Mourinho, yeah. If Mourinho was in the league, yeah, it would have been the bull of them because Mourinho is trash. What are you talking about? Bro, Mourinho was the one that that got him out of the Spanish League, bro.

SPEAKER_16 36:46

No, that's no it's not Mourinho that got Pep. Hey, okay.

SPEAKER_03 36:50

When Mourinho came in, bro, when Mourinho came in, a good challenge, bro. Yeah, it was before then, yeah, Barcelona was was smashing everything.

SPEAKER_16 37:00

Yes, 100%. There you go. That's what I understand. Real Madrid did what they did under Mourinho because of the caliber of players, vice versa, Barcelona. Everyone knows this, right? So Mourinho's gone past his peak. Like, bro, the guys, yeah. Now he's again, it's like those Afrobeats artists we talk about. He's not the guy as he used to be 10 years ago. That's facts. He's gone, he's now a nomad, he's gone different places, he's trying to obviously this season he did okay with Benfica, they went on beaten to an example. All of that stuff don't matter. Mourinho is not as feared as he was before. Klopp was the guy that Pep looked at and go, his brother here is different.

SPEAKER_03 37:39

Yeah, but yeah, but he was still smashing. That's my question.

SPEAKER_16 37:42

I'm saying, yeah, he did really well. Yeah, but if you asked Pep now, right now, and say, hey, who was the one manager that gave you headache and sleepless night? He would genuinely tell you, especially in the prem, Klopp.

SPEAKER_03 37:53

Yeah, because Klopp was there for a very long period of time. That's what I'm trying to say. You get what I'm saying? But we uh um Moreo's weakness was obviously he he'll probably be in the place two years, max three years, and then he's out. So that's his weakness and everything. But I believe, I solely believe that if More was in the league, yeah, for this last dec this last uh decade, yeah, club, and if the team supported him with all the resources and everything, yeah, bro. Pep is not gonna have it easy, yeah. I mean he's not gonna have the league on a stronghold the way he did. Yeah, now he's left and everything, bro.

SPEAKER_16 38:29

Listen, I still don't think there's uh there's no massive gap because he's left. I'll be honest with you guys. There's I have a I this I don't think even Arsenal, as much as I like Ateta, I don't like Arsenal, of course, but Ateta himself, he knows that. Yo, I want people to understand what Irayola did with Bone Mass, bro. It's what he's done with Bone Mass is incredible. Bone mass ended in sixth. All right, I want you guys to understand that Irayola's tactic is something marvelous. Again, to those that don't know, I'm like a certified listen, badges and all. Like, I'm not just saying I'm I'm I'm not your you know couch coach or just your armchair coach. Nah no, actually, I'm a football guy, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 39:09

And I can tell you, yeah, bro. You said that to me on everything, bro. I was banking on you, bro. If you know what I mean, I was banking on you. I almost lost some money, bro. Okay, first of all, yeah.

SPEAKER_16 39:17

If you next time I'm giving no, but next time I give you an advice, ask me, is this coming from hate or this is coming from your football knowledge? Yeah, my football knowledge, I can guarantee you guys. I said I have a feeling because I like Ateta. I I knew that it would go to the wire. You see, my hate was stronger than my football knowledge, bro. My hate, I do not like Arsenal, bro.

SPEAKER_03 39:38

The fans are in all my if I see I don't see it, bro. Let me tell you the truth. I don't see it because United we got Carrick. Okay, we're gonna see what Carrick's gonna do. I don't have too much faith, um, too much faith on him. Um, Chelsea, okay, we'll see. Rebuild stage and everything. Liverpool, up and down and everything. New coach from Bournemouth. I don't really know. You get what I'm saying? Who else? City, we'll see what City is gonna do. Arsenal to me are the ones that are they're only gonna get better from here. And if the news is out there that Mbappe wants to leave um Real Madrid and Arsenal have tasted this cup now, they've seen what he can do. They are not afraid of spending money right now.

SPEAKER_02 40:20

If Mbappé plays around, if Mbappe plays around, yeah, and finds himself in fucking Emirates, yeah, it's over, my guy.

SPEAKER_16 40:33

So because they get sponsored by the same people, bro.

SPEAKER_03 40:35

It's over. You're gonna say I'll be honest, it's fucking over, bro.

SPEAKER_16 40:39

I'll tell you this one, guys. That's my fear.

SPEAKER_03 40:41

I don't think it will ever happen because Real Madrid are the Real Madrid is a team that where else is Zimbabwe gonna go to? He went from PSG, the biggest club over there, he went to Spain, Real Madrid, the biggest club over there. Unless you're gonna tell me that he's gonna go to Germany. I don't see him going to Germany. You get I think he's gonna land in if he doesn't stay back, if he doesn't stay back in Real Madrid, I think he's gonna land in the Premier Madrid. But that's what I'm trying to say.

SPEAKER_16 41:04

I don't even see him leaving Real Madrid because the thing is, Real Madrid is not run as a club. Real Madrid is run as a country, yeah. You know, especially like the La Liga, it's run as a country, bro. There's politics, they're not gonna that's like their star boy, like he's the most you know, valuable player right now for them. You know, he's the he was the highest goal scorer this season has just gone, or this season has finished. And yeah, you can't let that person go. They're gonna do everything to appease him, they're gonna rub his head, give him massage. I hope so. Give him a few, I hope they keep him there, bro. Few few um you know I hope they keep him there.

SPEAKER_03 41:39

I'm scared, bro.

SPEAKER_16 41:40

Listen, bro, let's last week okay. Do you think Arsenal will win the league next season?

SPEAKER_03 41:46

I see them, yeah.

SPEAKER_16 41:46

The only thing I'll give to Arsenal and Ateta and these guys is the fact that they are the only club right now that has the stability in terms of the manager. That's the only way to do it. They've been there for eight years now, I'm gonna be nine. Well, we're going up to ten in two years or whatever the case is. That's it. But I just don't see it.

SPEAKER_03 42:02

Yeah, but yeah, but you can't say that's it, right? Because when I look at the city, right? I don't care what they do. I don't care what they do. Yeah, from Pep. They're gonna drop a little bit. Not not too much. You get what I mean? Like they cannot they cannot be better than Pep. I don't get it. You don't know my boy Maresco. Okay, never mind. We'll we'll see. You get what I'm saying? Wait, hold on, hold on. We'll see. Chelsea. They're still building Liverpool, Liverpool. You get me? So if I actually really look at it, I give Arsenal a slight edge over CT. Now we're gonna see what what the city coach is gonna do and everything, the people that they're gonna sign and all that. Now, if Mbappe lands in city, alright, you get me. But right now, I'm seeing like at the front row is Arsenal, bro, because they are very stable right now and they are willing to spend money, bro. But apart from that, bro, last week, yeah, or rather last weekend, bro. I didn't hear what bro. Arsenal fans, bro. I did not hear a word, and then the piano people, first of all, shout out shout out to the ammo piano people, bro. You know what I'm saying? We're still gonna talk about that, bro, because I have shit to say about that, bro. Bro, I went there, yeah. The amount of child um Arsenal jerseys in there, bro. They are everywhere, and they are rubbing it in your face, bro.

SPEAKER_16 43:37

Coming to the studio today. You get me. I'm seeing brother. I got I got outside there next to Tesco. Some guys go bag coming out of Tesco. I look I looked at him and go arsenal.

SPEAKER_03 43:49

Fam, too, today's the parade, innit?

SPEAKER_16 43:51

Tomorrow.

SPEAKER_03 43:52

Oh, tomorrow's the parade, yeah. Fam, they are expecting over a million people in London. Over a million. I love it though because small businesses are gonna make money.

SPEAKER_16 44:02

The only thing I like right now about them is their song North London Forever. Whatever, even though it's not their song, but um, you know that guy, yeah. Shout out to Ateta for getting that song, and you know, you know the deal behind that. What's the name of that song again? Uh, just put North London Forever.

SPEAKER_03 44:18

That's it, right here.

SPEAKER_16 44:20

Annoying song, but I love it. It's such it's like you never walk alone for Liverpool, yeah, yeah, yeah, bro.

SPEAKER_10 44:38

Oh no, it's too long.

SPEAKER_16 44:39

Sorry, so a lot of them. Yeah, but but uh that's the one of the things I really like of this season. Outside that, I'm a fan of Atleta, of course. But let me just let some people know something, right? So Mareska has been behind a lot of great things that's that obviously had um had happened at City for a while when he was with Pep as his assistant. Before he thought, you know what, let me go do my thing. And he went to Leicester City. Then, you know, we to those people that know, you know, Mareska is not a guy to play with. So this Arsenal believe your stability clear in that man City's got more money, they've got more connections, they're gonna have the right players. Maresca is a very good tactician. I promise you this, and I might be wrong, I don't mind being wrong. There's nothing wrong with that. Man City would not allow Arsenal to win the league next year. That's a fact. And on top of that, the biggest one for me personally that I really wanted the guy to be the coach for Man United. But I'm happy with Carrick because Carrick is one of my favorite players, obviously, and now even a decent coach. Irayola. They'll wait Liverpool. Kudos, man. Yo, that's a fantastic buy, bro. That's a bargain, you know. Irayola and um Liverpool, Liverpool are gonna be scary next season.

SPEAKER_03 45:54

What? Yeah, we'll see what happened, anyways, bro. We'll see what happens, we'll see what happens, we'll see what happens.

SPEAKER_16 45:58

Shout out to Jacques Belonzo, though. I know you got the Chelsea job, and you guys know Europe, so that means you guys will have a good season next season because you have more rest time. I see you.

SPEAKER_03 46:06

It happened to us, it will happen to you too, bro. Hmm, okay, we'll see what happened. I'll be looking for I'm not gonna lie. After this, I'll be sitting down chilling to watch the game tonight. You go, I mean, so come on, PSG, PSJ, PSJ, PSJ, PSJ. So for for my sake, I hope PSG wins and everything. If I didn't have money on here, I bet 150 pounds with someone. So if I didn't have money on here, I'll be rooting for for Arsenal, you gonna, because obviously it's England, but with my money there, bro. I'm rooting for PSD, bro. I need my African brothers to win PSD. We'll see what happens. Nah, talking about African brother, bro. You have Nigerians on um fucking overrated saka. How about Izzy? Easy is my guy, but Izzy's how about the other guy? What's his name again? I've forgotten the other guy's name, bro. Louis Kelly, no, the the other um Ibo guy. So I'm telling you that bro, bro. That's what I'm telling you. They went and signed Abu people, bro. This is not French boys anymore, bro. They're not they're not doing lover boys no more. You get the day when they say, Yo, we're gonna go to Nigeria, bro.

SPEAKER_16 47:14

Yeah, Kravaskalia today. Hey, Kravaskalia will cut out like this. You know, you cut bread and put button, bro.

SPEAKER_03 47:25

We'll see what happened, bro. I wait, man. Last weekend, bro. I went to see I saw DJ Maforisa. Maforisa and um the piano people, them and everything, yeah. Piano piano, first of all. Do you see what DJ Maforisa did with shebang? Yeah, man. I mean, he wasn't he wasn't the one that did it, but whoever matched it and everything, bro. That shit's cold, bro. Cold, cold, that's how to do it. I was looking at that and everything, yeah. The blending and all that thing from the shebang. You got me, bro. That shit was crazy. I was looking at that shit figured, yo, and that shit just took that song, it just just went. You get me? The only thing is, I saw someone say that, right? Someone said, Yo, it's so crazy how that song have gone the way it did and everything, but nobody knows the person that actually merged it. Like, nobody gives a fuck about the person. Everybody's talking about Malfarisa and Drake now, Drake, yeah.

SPEAKER_16 48:24

Of course, that's how life is, they're the bigger names, you got what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_03 48:26

And I love the fact that he also like bought into it. I'm talking about DJ Malfisa, he bought into it. He did a video um in the plane by he did another video and all that shit. You get what I'm saying? So he's really working it. It's part of you, I mean, yeah, he's working algorithm as well. So that's it. But I'm looking at that, I'm looking at that thinking, bro. I saw an X, a lot of people, a lot of Americans, right, were now saying, yo, who is this guy? Who's this guy? And everything. And then back to the the Ama Piano concert last weekend and everything, a lot of people were posting it because he he was doing the dance as well. But then he was now doing it with the original song.

SPEAKER_16 49:09

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 49:09

So I'm not looking at all that thinking, yo, that's gonna open a lot of doors to a different demographic that I probably is not aware of at my piano. Yeah, but bro, when I was at that event, I've been thinking about this. Thinking, is this a hill that I want to die on? Far by I said yes, bro. I prefer, I think I'm a piano event is way better than Afrobeat events.

SPEAKER_16 49:43

Oh, that's facts.

SPEAKER_03 49:44

We don't even have an Afro-beat event like that. Exactly.

SPEAKER_16 49:46

That's one point, that's fine.

SPEAKER_03 49:47

I mean, we don't even have an Afro-beat event. When you go to an AP um a piano share, everybody there on stage, DJ and whatnot, are South African or South Africans in the diaspora. The songs from A 200 is a piano. You get what I mean? The Irish know, let's do hip-hop here or whatever. Nah, you're just hearing that and it's like everybody just working the crowd, bro. You got what I mean? Everyone is working the crowd, nobody is there to do shallow. You know, no, no, no, nobody is there to you're not too cool. You get me? You're not too cool to dance. Yeah, the girls are there to dance. There is no popping bottles and shit. No, no, nobody cares about popping bottles and everything.

SPEAKER_16 50:39

Nobody spraining water.

SPEAKER_03 50:40

You can nobody is is it's is is is trying to get a get a um sit see in the boot or something, bro. You get what I'm saying? Everyone wanna be in the crowd and shit, bro. You get me, and everybody is done, nobody's looking at what you were or none of that. You get what I'm saying? Like when you're in there for them three hours, bro, it's vibes, yeah. We don't have that in our shit. Where are all the DJs? And I know that people are gonna say DJ Ubi and everything, cool, but you get what I'm saying? When you look at your DJs, your DJs presentation also matters and everything, yeah. The DJs look like the artists, you get what I'm saying? The way the drives, the Rolexes, the chains, all that shit. You get what I'm saying? Like very presentable. When you look at DJ Mafree style, when you look at Major League DJs and everything, them twins and that. You get me presentable when you look at all their guys, we don't have that in our shit. You get what I'm saying? All our DJs respectfully, some of them look good, most of them like bombs. You get what I'm saying? Like, no, no, no, no. For real, though. I'm not saying it just to be if you got a point. It's all about the packaging and shit. You get what I'm saying? And I honestly think that we should a lot uh a lot of our DJs need to do work and everything and start putting themselves out there. We need to start doing Afrobeat events, all the songs from A to Z, Afrobeats. We don't want to hear no RB, we don't want to hear no hip-hop. You go, I mean, none of that.

SPEAKER_16 52:17

Yeah, I I think the issue with that, especially the Nigerian DJs or people that are outside South Africa, is because most of these DJs rely on other people's songs. Do you get it? But that's the South South African people, too. What I'm trying to say is South Africans, the songs they're playing are very much their song, if you know what I mean. Um not really, you don't get what I mean. It's like I get what you're saying, but African songs, okay. Okay, not like it's their song. Obviously, they'll play the ones that they made themselves as the artists saying, but it's all like South African songs, all South African.

SPEAKER_03 52:51

But that is that not the same thing as Afro Beats.

SPEAKER_16 52:53

No, because the Afro B DJs will be playing Drake. But that's my point. That's what I'm saying to you. I said that's the problem. The problem now is those guys can't do without that. Do you get it? They feel the need to want to be cool, extra cool to other people. South Africans actually did their own thing themselves, saying, you know what, we're gonna play our songs, we're gonna push our songs. That's how um my piano became popular, you know. But the problem now is the Nigerian, you know, you know the Nigerian guys are anyway. We have to appeal to the Westerners, we have to appeal to this others, we have to always appeal to other people, and also another point to that is South African DJs support each other. That's my point, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 53:29

Even though, even though when you actually listen to South African podcasts and everything, or when you speak to South Africans in South Africa, they might have their little beef here and there, right? But for the most part, the big ones they support each other, yeah, right? When you look at black coffee, black coffee is the biggest DJ in the diaspora. Yep, it's so funny how that shit works because when I was in Cape Town and I spoke to South Africans, they said, bro, when it comes to South Africa, in South Africa, all the way to the ground, my Ferisa is God, yeah, yeah, yeah. You get me, but when you go outside, black coffee, bro, it's black coffee, especially in Europe. Yeah, black coffee just did his shit at the O2. My Farisa was there. You go I'm saying they carry each other along and everything, yep, right? But in our share, we don't work together. No, because like why don't we have events where Nigerian DJs? Some sort of like, you go I'm saying, yeah, maybe the local ones, but the local ones probably, but like I'm talking about the big ones.

SPEAKER_16 54:32

Yeah, no, no, no. These guys are all cultists, bro. This is this cult, this cultism, cultism behultism behavior is not gonna help these guys progress, man. Oh, yeah, you belong to this camp.

SPEAKER_03 54:42

I don't do that because you see that, like this bullshit that's happening in the music scene with the artists and everything, yeah. You see that is is carrying over and all that, yeah, right? You see someone like Shea Vibes not really want to jump into his thing and everything, clout chasing and shit. You you see him and everything, he's got his album coming out soon, and all that. Now he feels he has to dece everybody because he's hanging out with Bonner Boy, yeah, yep. You got what I mean. When I look at that, I'm like thinking low hanging fruit. Yep, it is that same low hanging fruit. Yeah, we always feel like we have to do the drama to get to you know, I mean, we have we just have to invest in the craft. When you look at a my piano, bro, I'm a piano is taking over, cuz taking over, like that's the reason I'm not a big concert person, I'm not a big event person. I get invited to events, but there is no time, and I um and my piano shit is happening now. The caviar, the big ones, right? The major leagues, mafia, some of these guys and everything. I'm there, yeah, man. It's fun, man. You got what I'm saying? Because it's not artist-centric, you go. I mean, it's not artist-centric, it's just the vibes, yeah. But unfortunately, we don't have that in our shit, bro. We could not even invest in in a fucking um what what is the code again? We could not even invest in in uh some sort of arena.

SPEAKER_16 56:14

Oh, it's happening already in Nigeria.

SPEAKER_03 56:16

No, but go check the people that are doing it. Life Nation in them are building the arena, yeah.

SPEAKER_16 56:20

Yeah, but I know a guy that's Life Nation, Parisian, some of them people. Bernaboy is involved in it, apparently.

SPEAKER_03 56:27

How? In what capacity?

SPEAKER_16 56:29

I think he's one of the investors. I think I heard.

SPEAKER_03 56:33

I hope so.

SPEAKER_16 56:35

But yeah, for me at this point, I don't even care who makes it anymore, who who builds those things, just build it to create some sort of let's see what these guys do with it. You know, those days of me hoping that Nigerians no, no, no.

SPEAKER_03 56:49

I do though. I do though, but I do, but at this point, because if you have foreign investors building an everything, yeah, and you guys are complaining about ticket price and everything, wait till then people build an everything. Yeah, but you guys are still gonna cry.

SPEAKER_16 57:00

It's the same thing. If you in the house you're not gonna do it, someone else will do it. That's it, that's how life is, you know, because I know for sure the the Lagos government are saying they're behind it as well, for sure.

SPEAKER_03 57:11

Of course, of course, they are they are gonna sign it off one way or the other. So just read it now because as you were just talking there, because I don't want people to think I'm on my phone. I would just check in something. The Nigerians first purpose-built multi-purpose um indoor arena is the hundred million dollar Lagos Arena in Victoria Island Lagos, developed by the the um constitution, um, including Oak View Group and Life Nation. This is a 12,000 capacity venue which is designed to host international music concerts, basketball, UFC, and uh WWE events. You go I mean, yeah. So the project backers are Piannus, Pajanus Group, Life Nation, Nigerian Sovereign Investment Authority, and Oak View Group. So I don't know, I didn't see a bonaboy name here, but oh no, no, it's not his name that will be there, of course.

SPEAKER_16 58:11

It'll be he'll be you know, maybe he's part of a consortium or it's part of a group or it's part of a yeah, you're like a pack or something like that, yeah. So that's again allegedly.

SPEAKER_03 58:21

I might but that's my point. But why can't why can't one person, all these billionaires and everything that are working around in Nigeria and everything? Why can't they build it?

SPEAKER_16 58:30

It it's not valuable to them. Um the problem here is most Africans, because I don't want this to be centered just on Nigerians, most Africans love instant gratification. Do you get it? So they don't have that mindset of investing for the future, they don't believe in posterity's sake, and how people do things, oh, for posterity's sake, let's do this. Uh you know, they don't believe in that. It's uh I put money here, I receive it immediately. Why do you think those scams happen over there? A lot of times they do the MMM scam, the you know, the pyramid scheme scams and all that stuff because it it's just that it's part of the culture, instant gratification. You can link it to religion where people go to church and say, I was blind, now I see it's instant. Everything in the culture, it has to be instant. Yeah, so that mindset is kind of you know stalled a lot of people's growth in terms of like it could be career growth, it could be whatever type of growth, and they just think, Oh, yeah, what's the point of building if I build this capacity, I won't get my money back immediately. You know, that's that's the main thing. But I understand because there's no structure in the country, so yeah.

SPEAKER_03 59:36

Because when I look at you and everything, yeah, when I look at go to South Africa, anytime you travel there, yeah, go to their events and everything, yeah. Bro, when I was in Cape Town, every event that we went to, every club that we went to, every party that we went to, you don't hear foreign songs. If you even hear foreign artists, yeah, it has to be that they did a song featuring with an with a South African, like the song with um Ashake and um what's his what's his name again? DJ Snake. No, the one that's the one that um oh shit. Oh my god, my OCD man. Now I have to find that song.

SPEAKER_16 1:00:18

I can't just Is it Barcola?

SPEAKER_03 1:00:21

No, what's the name of that song again, bro? Um the one Asha Key, Young John, and homeboy.

SPEAKER_16 1:00:30

Oh yeah, I know the light skinned brother. Oh, what's his name?

SPEAKER_03 1:00:35

I know what you're talking about. I know what you're talking about. You know what I'm talking about?

SPEAKER_16 1:00:37

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know the light skin, they're South African guy.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:40

Yeah, sorry guys, I've got I've got an OCD and everything. Now I have to find out something.

SPEAKER_16 1:00:44

Yeah, I know, I know, I think, yeah, I know the guy. It starts with P something. P so just go to Olame Day's album, you see it. If you go if you check Olame Day's album.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:55

Is it Olame Day or Young John?

SPEAKER_16 1:00:57

No, Olamide featuring vibe, M Chae vibes and the guy. No, trust me, go on it. You see, just go on Olame Day's album called the Olame Day. That's called Olame Day, the album called Olame Day, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:10

It's a new song, you know.

SPEAKER_16 1:01:12

No, I'm saying the artist's name.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:14

The artist's name. Yeah.

SPEAKER_16 1:01:18

He's featured on Olame Day's album.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:21

He he has a song with with um Davido as well. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Okay, and let me see what that guy's name is.

SPEAKER_16 1:01:31

Talcom or Palcom, something like that. Something comes, something like that.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:35

No, it's not him, it's not him, it's not him. You're talking about someone else. Yeah, yeah. I'm talking about someone else. It's a young John song featuring um Ashake and the guy. Focalistic, two factors.

SPEAKER_08 1:01:49

Oh no, bro.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:56

A number, bro. Another it's not in bro. I can't help myself. I have to find it.

SPEAKER_14 1:02:14

I have to find it, bro.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:15

Yeah, so a song like that, you get what I'm saying, or something that has maybe a piano theme, the one that they always play as well, is the Marvel with um whiskey as well. That's an I'm a piano thing. You get what I'm saying? Yeah, so but that's like they are doing it, they are pushing their own shit. They do, yeah. As a culture, they are pushing it.

SPEAKER_16 1:02:33

But that's what we did 20 years ago, though.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:35

We had for some weird reason, bro. We just we just everybody old man for their thing now, bro.

SPEAKER_16 1:02:39

No, no, no, because we found out that we need these guys found out that the money is when you dress like the people you're trying to appeal to. You don't you need the validation from someone that you know you're looking up to and you're dressing like them, acting like them, and you're making songs that are similar to what they like, and now they're buying into it, and of course they're giving you the money investing, so that's why we're doing that. Not knowing that actually what pushed us out there is us being ourselves. That's why Ashake is one of the greatest artists, bro. This guy has never, and I don't think he's gonna even change who he is. Now, Sonics might lean towards that, but just listen to him, everything keeps it, he's still in his language, like bro. The way he still speaks, he's not bro. He speaks the way he thinks. You can just tell that this guy is just so comfortable in himself, very, very comfortable. Everyone else wants to, you know, speak. Everyone wants to talk like Mikelo V, but uh just fine. Um, but yeah, that's what it is. So and I'm not I'm not surprised that South Africans and that again, weirdly enough, I think that's what they're even doing with the whole xenophobia stuff, like saying, Oh, we don't want illegal foreigners, you know, because people are getting that wrong, they think they say foreigners, they said illegal foreigners they don't want in the country. Cool. I feel like they just want to have their own thing because they again, you know, you might like it, you might not like it, doesn't matter. But I don't think we're ever, ever gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:10

I honestly think, I honestly think that we need to start having events, not concerts, events, afro beats, the the DJ Obi's of the world. Um Spinol, big, yeah, yeah, yeah. You go, I mean, spin all and everything, bro. So start start doing it, bro. Start doing it, start pushing it. Discovery do that. DJ Ob friends, but yeah, but DJ Obi has has one that is gonna be happening somewhere in Kent.

SPEAKER_16 1:04:34

Yeah, you go, I mean, so but he's still gonna play other songs, which I'm not saying he shouldn't, but these guys have too many friends that they need to suck up to or appeal to. That's why. Like I said, shout out to the South Africans. That's what I like about your DJ Mafraises, your probably your yeah, what's his name? They don't care, they all play the my piano, boom, and just go, bro.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:52

Bro, listen, like when you're in there, yeah, when you're there and you're listening to the other songs and everything, bro. It's like, bro, it's different. It's different, it's different. That's facts, bro. I'm looking for for one of the songs that like that I've been playing lately, bro. You know what I mean? One of the song I've been playing lately, and everything, bro. Let me bro.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:18

You're there with this shit, yeah? Yeah, you're in there. You're like everybody there just doing this. Wait, don't look around, bro. I want to do this. Yeah, I'm gonna go to the house.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:06

I don't care what nobody says, bro. Shout out, bro. For real. Shout out to them, bro. They kill that shit. They kill that shit. They always kill him, man. You mentioned um Asha K. He's got his up and coming um concert coming up at the OT.

SPEAKER_12 1:07:20

Ash I'll be there.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:22

In October. Um, what's the title of the concert again? I believe in God with In God We Trust, something like that? Something like that. Yeah, something like that. You know he's all about the dollar signs right now. You get me? My guy's all about the dollar signs.

SPEAKER_16 1:07:37

So what do you expect the ticket prices to look like? Listen, I saw some people complain online. Empire will collect their own cuts. Oh, yeah. Live Nation collect their cuts. Oh, yeah. Oh two collect their cuts.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:48

There are a lot of people that have hands in the pocket right now.

SPEAKER_16 1:07:52

Even me too, I'll collect my own cuts. You get me? I'm seeing a lot of people complain and all that. I'm saying, bro, what did you expect? Guys, concerts are not for your everyday people. I'll be a good thing. No more. No more. If you want to come out, you come out if you don't. Even me saying I'll be, I shall be there. Closer to that time, bro.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:13

If I if my plug doesn't do the plugging thing, bro, a lot of people are saying 100 and something pounds for standing, bro.

SPEAKER_16 1:08:19

Yeah, but why do people go to concerts and stand? Are you guys okay? Yeah, but I I need to see though. What are you guys doing standing in a concert? There's some songs that will come out. You know, when they have the um interval breaks and stuff, there's some artists that come out that man don't rate like that. I need to sit down.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:36

See, this is the thing, yeah, because I saw a lot of people online complaining, talking about how expensive it is and everything. I said, Clause, listen. First of all, all you know that are complaining with still go. So why would he start popping the prices and everything every year? Two, if you guys want to boycott it, then don't go. You get what I'm saying? Or you can just save from now until then. That's it. If your budget allows it. That's it. But the thing is, I think Ashake, he knows the space that he occupies in the culture. You got what I mean? And he's taking advantage of it right now.

SPEAKER_16 1:09:10

No, Ashake is not. You know what I'm saying? That'll turn up there. Bro, this guy is loved by so many Westerners, bro. Every Ashake's cause I've been there and I've looked around, yeah. It's not just my people there, man. Like some even some lady, she's a soldier in America, she calls Ashake her husband. She made a comment one of my the reaction of Chanel and stuff. She was like, Yeah, so Ashake is now uh I hate that word global, you know.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:39

The only thing the only thing is, I don't have a problem with the price and everything, yeah. But if you're gonna be charging them type of prices, bro, I need to see art on that stage. Exactly. You go, I mean, all that standing around and hoping that the music carries you, I'm not saying that he does it and everything, but all that standing around and hoping that the music carries you, like most of these artists do, and all that, bro. I don't want to see none of that shit. If I don't have a problem with an artist charging whatever he wants to charge, yeah, but the service has to be worth the money. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_16 1:10:11

It means either the performance or the stage design, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:14

Everything, everything, the performance, the stage design, everything. Like, I was having this conversation with my homegirl the other day. I said personally, and I know that a lot of people will disagree with me and everything, yeah. But the best I have seen Ashake on stage was Symphony.

SPEAKER_16 1:10:30

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:31

That's the best, that is the most comfortable. That is when I look at him in his in his glory, if I want to use that, yeah, the most comfortable I've seen him that he feels, you know what, I own this was that Symphony. He's concerned O2, the one before that and everything. Yeah, um the songs were great, but I wasn't overly impressed. The symphonic one was so different, yeah.

SPEAKER_16 1:11:00

But the symphony one is a different style of performance. Okay, so he that allows so he needs to deep dive in, yeah. He needs to deep dive into that. There's less of DJ, Playmitrach one. DJ, Playmitrack 4. That's the symphonic one is totally different, so that's why it was really good. And because he's a performer anyway, I obviously graduated as a performing art. So um from performing art. Um, so that for for me, I already need there. But all the ash for me, all the concert I've been to of Ashake's, he's always delivered, especially that day he performed at my piano. Oh my god. Yeah, Ashake is cool.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:37

Bruh, listen, for everybody crying crying and everything, talking about ticket prices and all that shit, it's either you safe to buy the tickets, or you boycott and don't go. That's it. Or a lot of you that are complaining, should shut up because you still gonna go. And you're looking at a guy right now who actually believes in himself, believes in his craft, knows where he occupies in the culture, and he knows his his cashier right now. So he's him right now. He's him right now. You get what I'm saying? But you can tell that dude lost money, bro. Somebody was saying something. Somebody was saying something, yeah. Someone was saying, why can't he push the Naira sign a bit more? Why is it why is it always dollars, dollars, dollars?

SPEAKER_16 1:12:23

Nigerian artists would always cater and pander to the Western world. We said this already. That's it. That's the listen, they don't care about the average Nigerian listener because you don't make them anything. This one streams, that one streams, bro. The streams, they don't make no money from you guys. So tell me if I'm not if I don't get any value from you, how can I push you? That's how the world is, unfortunately. Which obviously, for me, I disagree with that. I think it should be the other way around. I feel like without the Nigerian listeners, we wouldn't know who Ashake is. Yeah, absolutely. Nigerian Nigerian uh space and market and the audience when we're obsessed about something, we do everything possible for everyone to know about this thing. So even when Ashake blew up, so the Nigerian guys are pushed, push, push until you got to the Western space all thanks to social media, of course. But you already know how these artists are, they've got mouths to feed, and the best way is who's gonna give me more money, either the pound sign or the dollar sign, it's not the Naira. Yeah, you're right, bro. Unfortunately, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:29

You're right, you're right. Bro, listen, it's been a good one. Oh man, great conversations and that.

SPEAKER_16 1:13:35

I'm happy I know. It's a link back on the day.

SPEAKER_13 1:13:40

Steadily, steadily, steadily. I'm happy.

SPEAKER_14 1:14:02

Shout out to Breezy and G. I shall be there. Let's go.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:08

Yeah, but uh listen, bro. Salute to every single one of you all there. As you already know, it's your boy Toby. And it's me, Mr. Chanel. And yes, this guy. Subscribe to the channel, watch the videos, leave a like, leave a comment, and share these videos with your friends. Come on, you get what I mean. Until next time. Peace, yo. Salute.

SPEAKER_13 1:14:42

Oh, this song comes on in October.

SPEAKER_16 1:14:51

Nah, Drake, Drake, you need to jump on this, bro.

SPEAKER_15 1:14:53

Fresh Prince of the Left. Oh my god, that just wants. I keep everything correct. We are just taking the vex. Ah Bella.

SPEAKER_14 1:15:10

Fresh prince of the left. I'm on the cut. Back the chance on that. Nike everything correct. We are just taking the vex.

SPEAKER_15 1:15:37

Move as a cutie and conflict like a cat is cold. Black in the country, that boost.

SPEAKER_14 1:15:57

I can't bring me that back phoenix. Hey, should we bring it back? Yeah.

SPEAKER_16 1:16:12

Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:14

Yes, sir. Peace. Peace out.