Ep 306 | Burna Boy Makes FIFA History

Burna Boy is set for another major global moment with his reported appearance at the FIFA World Cup 2026 Final Halftime Show. In this episode, we discuss what the opportunity means for his career, Afrobeats and African music on the world stage.

Has Burna Boy now become Africa’s biggest global music export? Could performing at the FIFA World Cup Final be even bigger than the Super Bowl for an African artist?

We also respond to Nota’s controversial comments about South Africa, Nigeria and Afrobeats 

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SPEAKER_01 2:45

My guy. Yeah, man. What are you saying though? Nothing much, man. Just listening to I don't know. Some of the I don't know. It's just weird. What's that? Sorry, guys, if my voice is broken. Yeah, fam.

SPEAKER_06 2:56

What's wrong with your voice, by the way, bro? I lost it. You walked in here sounding like a broken record or something, bro.

SPEAKER_01 3:03

I lost it during the England match, innit? Oh. Yeah, my voice. Oh my god. I lost my voice.

SPEAKER_06 3:10

That night, though. That night. Mmm. Bro, listen. After that game, yeah? The corner store by my house, they closed the shop immediately, bruh. Because they were scared that people were gonna walk in there and just cause a havoc. I'm telling you. Like it's like the soul was pulled out of this country, bro.

SPEAKER_01 3:35

I'm telling you. Domestic violence went on. For real? Domestic violence goes on.

SPEAKER_06 3:43

Do you know what? I saw that. Yeah. I saw someone post that one time on social media. I looked at it. I was like, wait, let me find it actually. Right? I was like, is this actually true? Or you know, it's just one of them ones where people just pull out stats from their arse or something like that. I'm like thinking, how do we actually measure this? Apparently, yeah, whenever England plays, wins or lose, domestic violence goes up.

SPEAKER_01 4:12

Especially when they lose. Because when they win, nothing they're happy, innit? That's crazy. If it's true though, I don't know if it's not true. No, no, it's not if it is very very much true. For real. Yeah. It happens in other countries too, but we live in England, so I can only talk about it.

SPEAKER_06 4:29

I saw this video of this girl. First of all, I'll be the first to tell you. I'm not a big fan of her. I think some of the shit that she says in there if you can tell that she does not like men.

SPEAKER_01 4:38

Who's this?

SPEAKER_06 4:39

Who's this? I don't know the girl's limiting, but whenever I see her thing, let me see your video. She is talking down men. This girl.

SPEAKER_00 4:45

I lost a six-figure job from this. So I this was during the England World Cup, I believe this is 2019 now. England World Cup, there was an article from The Independent that released some statistics saying that during the England World Cup matches, domestic violence stats increased by 41%. Which is meaning for those who are not aware of the context, when England football team are playing football, whether they win or lose, especially when they lose, the men go home and beat their wives. And also we don't see women as full people. So 100%.

SPEAKER_06 5:19

In response to that article, like I I saw it, I listened to us like, what? You know, I said, domestic violence tied to football, how does that even make sense? But I said, you know, well, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 5:35

It makes all the sense, innit? People get angry, just like when it's not just even just when England play. Of course, that's on a bigger scale. Even when the people, their club teams play and they lose, so yeah, it's a lot.

SPEAKER_06 5:47

So people just go home and just stick it out of your car.

SPEAKER_01 5:49

Because they're angry, so let's say your partner's like, oh, it's just football. Some men, what do you mean it's just football? Yeah, do you know what I mean? That's a crazy. But to be fair, you can't, yeah. I I think outside football in general, you can't just try to minimize anyone's experience, obviously. Not just that, yeah. If that's your that's that's like uh your vice, you know, you ever some people care about the vices so much, so you can't tell them it's just this, it's just that. Do you know what I mean? It's like me telling a woman it's just makeup. I can I wouldn't mind, I wouldn't, I wouldn't understand if she shouts at me, obviously. Because I don't condone hitting someone, but there's some men that just are they weird, they just feel like they need to use their hands to that's some crazy shit. To convey a message, but yeah, man, my voice went. I was so upset. I'm still it's not it's still not sanking, I'm still really upset.

SPEAKER_06 6:36

I was watching that game here. I sat here watching the game and everything, right? The first half, obviously we banged in the girl older, you know. I was like, yo, but something in me was still settled, you know what I'm saying? I was like thinking, alright, cool. But then, bro, we came into the second half and everything. Yeah, it's just like I'm like thinking, this guy's about to make the same mistake that Arsenal made against PSG. You can't pack there. Like, these are great teams. You might bang in and go, yes, but as the game is progressing and everything, they are gonna dig deep. You get what I'm saying? And by that time you're getting tired, obviously, because you've exhausted you've exhausted a lot of energy on defense, right? They are still coming at you. You know what I mean? Until the last whistle blows and everything, they will be coming at you. You get me? And that was just what happened. I just don't understand why we always revert back to attacking the boss whenever we play some of these teams. I don't know if it's scared or something, like wow, we saw the formula that actually worked. The formula that worked was we were attacking and playing them in the first half and everything. You get what I'm saying? Like you still have to have that confidence that yo, this one cannot beat us and everything. But once that was a picture that I saw at one point in the game, yeah. There were like 10 players behind the ball, bruh. We were not even playing at that point, bro. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:59

The possession was um what was it called? 86, 612 mad. 88 88%, 612%, mad. And um it's not it's not necessarily in a situation where anyone should again you can be upset at the coach, but it's the DNA of this country, man. You know, anyone that's seen my story, you know I'm a football guy. This unfortunately it's not a football podcast now, so I can't really say But the truth is hey, you can't blame the players if that if if that's something you can't do, you can't force someone else to do something. It's like me going to a 10-year-old that has never lifted up a finger to do anything, and I'm asking them to start to do crazy stuff. They're like that, I've never done that before. In this country, we focus on profile, we focus on um athletes, we f focus on things instead of realize it's football, it's not rugby, this is no cricket, this is no basketball. So why we fo just focus on athletes? So now when it comes to a situation where you have to retain the ball, keep the ball, you know, we can't do it. Spain did that against France, they went one up, kept the ball, and attacked. England went one up, oh no, let's get offended because I don't know. From the young age they've been they've been told to express themselves and run, be a beast, be a this, be a that, but there's no one teaching them football IQ. So of course the England is not gonna win anything anytime soon, anyway, until that changes, until the scouting system changes, until the people that scout players and put them into the pool start to change and we start to have loads of intelligent players so that it doesn't matter if you're tall, you're short, as long as you understand football. And also people like Kobe Maneu that is good at retaining the um retaining the ball, did not play one minute in the world. That's a joke to me, man. But I know, I know, I know that really killed me.

SPEAKER_06 9:50

I was like, what the hell? Like it was just one of them ones I just didn't even have the energy. I said, you know what, the finals, am I even gonna watch the finals? I don't know. You can say like it was just one of them ones proper killed me. And I had my boy, obviously, he lives in the states. So immediately um the US got knocked out. My mom was rooting against England, bruv. You get me, fam and dude was calling my phone. I just went straight to bed, bro. You get me? Like, you know how them ones. I just went straight to bed. I'm not I'm not entertaining this I'm not entertaining this bullshit, bruv. You gotta say, like, oh my god, that took the soul out of me. I was like thinking, what the hell is this?

SPEAKER_01 10:28

On the brighter side though, I'm happy football won because that's how I love my football to be played. As a coach, that's how I coach my team. You know, we don't care if you're tall or you're big, we just play football. And I'm happy the king and the greatest of all time. I don't want to hear anyone say anything. Actually, um, after that game, I just retired any conversation or entertaining any sort of conversation between Messi and anyone. Do you think it's over?

SPEAKER_06 10:51

Over for Messi Ronaldo conversation over.

SPEAKER_01 10:54

Like I said, there's no conversation, man. He every time Messi did it five times this this World Cup. Every time they were in a goal behind, he just looks up.

unknown 11:06

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 11:09

This guy is not real, man. But you know what?

SPEAKER_06 11:11

I'm not gonna lie, we contained him in that game, you know. We did contain him that first half, we did. No, Judge Spence did okay. I mean, we contained him and everything. Like he he wasn't he was a non-factor in that game up until the second half and everything. But the thing is, you know, great players like that, you can't you can't you can't lock them down. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 11:30

That's the thing, you can't lock them down. I love the keyword you used, contain. You know what it means to contain something. That means you just keep in and you just try, you're still you're trying.

SPEAKER_06 11:43

You're trying, you're trying so that it doesn't go out of control.

SPEAKER_01 11:46

I can't do this anymore.

SPEAKER_06 11:47

You know what I'm saying? And that's just the thing, and and bro, it was just one of them once, but yeah, bro. You know, it's it's kind of like a bittersweet thing because the walk up is gonna is coming to an end, obviously. You know what I'm saying? On Sunday, you know, it's done. I remember when when it started, and you're thinking, bro, one month had just gone past just like that. Just like that, just like that.

SPEAKER_01 12:09

Suffering from withdrawals, man.

SPEAKER_06 12:11

You guys say like it was just one of them. But I'm not gonna lie, like it's it's been interesting. When it first started in America and all that, you know, everybody was talking about yo, how's it gonna look like, but so far so good. I think America did their thing. Well, America, Mexico, and Canada they did their thing on this.

SPEAKER_01 12:31

Yeah, outside um the politics, big big T getting involved. Everything was okay, to be fair. It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. It was still bad, but it wasn't as bad. I enjoyed it in a sense where uh for the for any neutral, this was like the perfect world cup. Why? Because all the big hitters scored goals, like they are the ones on the charts. Your Bapiers, your Halland, Hurricane, all of the all the players you want to see Vinnie until he got they got kicked off, you see. But yeah, because normally in other World Cups we've had, we haven't had this level of you know returns from the top players. There's always been some players who chip in here, chip in there, but it's been good, man. So in all yeah, it's been alright. Yeah, it's been alright. This might be actually what a poetic just what a poetic ending for for my goats, man. This might be his last world call, but that's how to do it, man.

SPEAKER_06 13:25

Yeah, I think this is gonna be the last one. He's 39 now, isn't it? Yeah. So that means if we're talking about 43. How old did Krishna now?

SPEAKER_01 13:33

41.

SPEAKER_06 13:34

41. Yeah, everyone knows it's the last one.

SPEAKER_01 13:38

It's the last one for a lot of people. The Boyna, Lukaku, uh even Harry Kane, it might not be his last. At least 33, 34. But it might be his last in terms of him leading the line. It's gonna be maybe go pick him for experience like they do with Henderson, and maybe put him on the bench or something like that. But Rashford, yeah, a lot of them, they gotta go anyway. You gotta mean Rashford, all the boys, yeah. You know, Neymar's gone, obviously.

SPEAKER_06 14:06

It's over. Yeah, yeah, but it's been a good one. It's been a good one. Um how you doing though?

SPEAKER_01 14:12

You're good though, yeah? Yeah, man, I'm good, man. How's your week been? Lost my voice. Still still mourning, still mourning the last fantastic.

SPEAKER_06 14:21

Yeah. Nice, nice, nice. Nice. Bro, my week has been alright though. Apart from the heat, obviously, but so far so good. It's been alright. What did you do special this week? My highlight of the week, really.

SPEAKER_01 14:36

You say you went to the strip club.

SPEAKER_06 14:38

No, I didn't. Oh, that's what I'm fine.

SPEAKER_07 14:41

Sorry, so I wish I did though. Yeah, I mean, to release some tension, bro. To release attention, fam. You know what I mean? I'm not saying nothing. Just to release our tension. You got me.

SPEAKER_01 14:52

I only asked him with my eyes, with my eyes, you get me, with my eyes, you're right.

SPEAKER_07 14:59

This guy to like woman. Oh, of course. This guy, now this guy, this guy to like woman. You got me.

SPEAKER_06 15:12

But the week has been okay, man. The week has been okay just watching uh what's it called? The streamer university thing and everything. You know, that's that's that's what I've been watching. I'm not gonna lie, I know a lot of people say, yo, you know, but I do enjoy that shit though. You know, the streaming thing, you know, yeah, especially from working from home. I just have it on this computer, yeah. You know, just doing my thing, just watching the whole thing and everything. Yeah, I've been watching that. We which we're still gonna talk about that because a lot of people had something to say about your coming last week, bruv.

SPEAKER_01 15:39

On what app were they speaking?

SPEAKER_06 15:41

Because I was listening to the families online there, bro. I don't know where you were. I don't know where you was, bro. But hey, hey, you gotta be a lot of people had had things to say about you though, you know about what you said about my man. I'll do the Enzo Fernandez.

SPEAKER_07 15:56

You gotta be what you said about my man.

SPEAKER_06 15:59

You gotta say, but before we drop into that, man, listen. If you've not subscribed to this channel, Fresh of the Bo Show, Fresh of the Bo podcast, whatever you want to call it, subscribe now. Do it. You go, I mean, watch the videos, leave a like, leave the comment, and share these videos with your friends. You know, we just don't want you to watch it, we need you to clip, clip, you give me post, send this out on X, on Instagram, wherever you are, and when you post it out there, we want you to tag us as well. You go, I mean, on X, F O T B um community, that's on X, on Instagram, Fresh of the Bowl Podcast, you know, just tag us and everything, man, so that we can repost it as well. And also on Instagram as well, man. Um, no, on YouTube as well. Yeah, you got what I'm saying. Clip this year, post it out there, man. You get what I'm saying? But we salute every single one of you. For some of you that don't really know who I am. My name is Toby, and this is Banks. Banks. You go, I mean, and we salute you. Yeah, man. Farm, should we start this? Yeah, let's go, let's go. We should do this, yeah? Yeah, man. Let's go.

unknown 17:10

Yeah, Mr.

SPEAKER_17 17:11

Bombastic, Mr. Romantic, Mr.

unknown 17:13

Fantastic.

SPEAKER_17 17:14

Nothing is garbage. You know the night is young. I'm feeling good, I'm in my zone. Run me a fat big blond. And now them double. I'm burning in my light wallet. Like what? Cause I'm a gun love. I be shame, stop. So fly my god. Mr. Bombastic, Mr. Romantic. I've a gunboy with the domain. Give me the my level. I'm gonna boy, everybody want blue. I'm still lana. My love matamat, my way, just gone too. I need to bad man love you, and you go to this, you need the bad man low. I'm a look at the bike. You make it spend you to tie the makeup guide, you left and right, baby guide, guy. You don't want to go by the baby baby guy, guy.

SPEAKER_16 18:32

Too easy, guys. I'm on it, stop the long top, long top. I'm in the thing, you want come You better be late with your mind. Don't go in your own use.

SPEAKER_07 19:03

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 19:07

Energy, energy, energy to talk to, you know, me and get cakos, I've been a good best, but I don't let's go to back, I want some paradox, I'll fellow like a whole low, we could have done, I put it to a lowest stone fighting on the low factor, I won't put some paradox, I'll fellow like a hullow, we could flex I'm putting some paradigm like a bull, it's a lot of kids, five nuclear lessons I'm putting some paradigm like a wood that you don't like to do what you did, my son.

SPEAKER_04 20:48

Because we wanna fight up to fuck some paradigm, like I would love to get up in that kid.

SPEAKER_01 21:01

Yeah, yeah, yeah, boo. It's a shame that we didn't get to hear slick victory. Can I just say Victoria? You have a hit, actually. I've been really jaded with all these Afrobeat songs. I know if you but you see that song, that's a song that can do madness, especially in America. The dance moves, everything is yeah, that's a banger.

SPEAKER_06 21:22

It's a shame that we didn't hear it. I was actually planning to play that during the course of the podcast and ever because I needed to talk about that as well.

SPEAKER_01 21:31

Oh, you see a great mind is thinking like that.

SPEAKER_06 21:32

Yeah, you go because I want to talk about that as well. Why is that song not the number one right now, everybody?

SPEAKER_01 21:39

No, we don't even need it to be number one. Right now, it's doing a madness on TikTok. I know, I know it's easy to get racked up on TikTok because of course if someone sees someone do a dance, they might want to jump on it. Some people don't even know who Victoria is, but I don't care.

SPEAKER_06 21:52

Fan people need to go and check out my man and everything. I think it was Storms as well that commented on this shit. Like bare artists, which goes back to the conversation. That we had, right? We had this conversation, was it last month or a couple months ago, and everything? Yeah. I said when you look at Afrobeats, it's like there's a divide somewhere. Yeah. Songs like that, for some reason, because I called a couple of my buddies and everything that are in Nigeria. I say, yo, fam, is this song going in everything in Nigeria and all that, right? Not really. Over here, I'm seeing a lot of people like banging to it. I don't even need it to go all crazy.

SPEAKER_01 22:31

I need it to. It would, it's Nigeria, bro. They would as soon as it as the clock that, oh, it's doing a madness over here, they would jump on it. It's the same thing that happened with whiskey and stuff. But for me, I don't even go with the metrics in Nigeria.

SPEAKER_06 22:45

Since we're already here, yeah, let's let's let's play the song in there because because I wanted to talk about it sometime, but since we're already here, let's talk about it. Let's go.

SPEAKER_01 23:07

I can hear Drake on this.

SPEAKER_08 23:09

Oh crazy, go crazy.

SPEAKER_09 23:55

Uh-huh, oh my baby, after that, uh, oh my baby corner, that's the next, oh my baby corner, that's the next, like you like, I don't have a test, I didn't have a cat, everybody got that. Oh, one of your three one of your pictures.

SPEAKER_06 24:39

Bro, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen. I don't understand why the the song is not is just too short. I can't even get my words together.

SPEAKER_01 24:51

Why the hell is the song too short? Yeah, it's a clever idea to get someone on the remix. It's a banger, so it's a small move. Bro, I don't listen. I'm tired of artists doing that, bro.

SPEAKER_06 25:00

You get what I'm saying? I'm tired of artists doing that. Like a banger like this, yeah. I understand sometimes the psychology behind and everything. They want you to want more of it. You get what I'm saying, bro. I think it should be a crime for a song to be one minute 40, 40 seconds, bro.

SPEAKER_01 25:14

Yeah, like what we're talking about, a song like this. I know Techno has a song like that I released this year that's really good, but it's a one minute something, one minute, ten seconds. Like, it's pretty much giving me vibes of a reference track. So I think there'll be a remix, man. To be fair. I don't, bro. I don't care about a remix, bro. I'm talking about this. No, he's thinking, yeah, it's gonna still be the same song, obviously. I I know what is probably I might be wrong. He's thinking he needs us a particular person on that to just take the song to the next level. To the next level, then to be fair. I can hear three different artists on this. I can hear Burner Boy, Drake, and a bit of you know what, even Stormzy wouldn't sound bad on that.

SPEAKER_06 25:51

Stormsey definitely will not sound bad on it. Bonner boy would definitely kill it. Yeah, he will kill it. Um Drake, if he can get Drake, obviously. You gotta say, but yeah. Bonner boy, yeah. Um I'm I'm kind of imagining him just stepping on this and everything with that bass on his voice and everything.

SPEAKER_01 26:13

Yeah, because he kind of needs that contrast a little bit as well. Yeah, because remember on his um what's the name of the album? I love love love you, Damini, right? Love Damini, love Damini is a love, yeah. Love Damini, yeah. Um he featured Mr. Victory, so he needs to return the favor him out here. Yeah, bro, bro. I found this song is a banger though.

SPEAKER_06 26:35

This song is a banger. Oh my god. I think I think so far, yeah. I'm not gonna lie, some of the songs that have come out recently, Victory, Techno, this techno um album as well. Bro, um, what's the name of this song again? Porter prota Prusse, Porter Prince, or whatever that the name of that song is. Let me just find it real quick, bro. Techno, this album. I was listening to it this morning. I was like, yo, this is crazy. Porter Prince. Yeah, Porter Prince, bro.

SPEAKER_02 27:14

You deceive me for my brand now. From Lego Switch, Potter Prince.

SPEAKER_06 27:26

I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna write respectfully. You know who he who he sounds like? Yeah, feels yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:34

Listen to it again, bro. No, I know what you I think I know what you you're talking about.

SPEAKER_02 27:38

You deceive me for my brain.

SPEAKER_01 27:40

The cadence.

SPEAKER_02 27:41

The cadence, yeah. From the customer.

SPEAKER_06 27:45

That's what I said respectfully.

SPEAKER_07 27:50

I don't want anybody I got you looking at for you.

SPEAKER_06 28:56

Listen, I've been listening to this all day today, bro. He gave me his album, A Dayze, another track on there. Bro, I think, I think, yeah, I'm excited, bro.

SPEAKER_01 29:07

Unfortunately, we still have that pro problem of um what's it called? We have to we have we still have the topical problem where we don't have key issues we're talking about. It's the same thing, yeah. It's love, isn't it? Yeah, it's not even love, it's just it's surface level, is yeah, I'm tired of it, man.

SPEAKER_06 29:25

No, the thing is, the thing, no, no, the thing is, I like it for some artists. Some artists, we have to accept it.

SPEAKER_11 29:32

You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_06 29:33

Some artists we have to accept it. Some other artists are obviously are obviously technical, they have a lot more subject to talk about. You know what I mean? I think that's lane for for everybody and whatever you want to do, wherever you feel comfortable.

SPEAKER_01 29:48

I agree, but we can't have 20 people doing the same thing. That's what I'm saying. I'm not saying there shouldn't be a lane. Of course, there's a lane. I was I'm still a massive fan. I'll always forever be a massive fan of techno, but at some point in life, you just need to branch out and go, you know what? Because if I play, unfortunately, I don't have like you know, if I like in control of me, bro, I'll play five songs of techno that he was actually saying things political stuff, and he's what? And you're like, this is a banger. You're dancing to you, not even realizing what you say. Another man doing with another man, and go, go. If you play techno, go. You hear what I'm saying. You you once you heard once you hear the song, you know the beat, then then you just see listen to the first 30 seconds, you're like, what the flip? This is really good. So you know ask yourself, I'm not saying you should sing that all the time or deliver that type of song all the time, but just mix it up because that album is just filled with the same thing, basically, same subject matter, no diversity, there's nothing, it's just like okay, fair enough. And then this is the thing, no longevity, those are these are the albums that will die in this year, they're not gonna be carried on to into next year. That's how it is, you know. So we we're here celebrating Jay-Z's 30th. Ask yourself, you think it's just because Jay-Z is a very good rapper? Part of it. Good. There you go. Part of it. So the other part is what?

SPEAKER_06 31:08

Yeah, but if you really want to go there, let's go there. If you really go, because it's so funny you brought it up because I was thinking about that within this week. Yeah. Is there any artist? Go all the way back that can come out right now and do 30 years anniversary of their said album or their career, wherever the case is. Like the way Jay-Z is coming out right now, and everyone is coming out to celebrate him. If you look at that stage and everything, this is the first concert that I've seen that many futures on the stage. Jay-Z don't really do that like that. You know what I mean? It's just him. But we saw that. By the way, I'm going to the one in London. You already know this. You know what I'm saying? But is there anyone where you go all the way back? Because there should have been people in our general, in our culture, whatever you want to call it, yeah, that the lane was there for them at some point in their career to celebrate 30 years of whatever their career is. But I think a lot of them fumbled it. Maybe I'm wrong. Or is there anybody you can tell me today? So um come out and celebrate 20 years, 30 years of whatever their stuff is.

SPEAKER_01 32:26

Afrobeat is just 27 years old. I'm talking about modern Afrobeats because the inception was 99. So it's 27. Yeah, we got three more years. Um if the likes of Tony Tatula, the likes of um what's it called? Uh the the guys that started at the start of that inception, they don't have, I don't think they have enough catalogue. Yes, they do have songs, but I don't know, they don't have albums like Jay-Z. We can't compare anyone to that. Reason being the closest person in a couple of years that should be celebrating 30. Forget 30, even 20 should be like your P squares, but they're not together anymore. But that's my point. Those are part of the people that I said that fumbled it. Yeah, yeah, of course. It's not just them, there's a lot of them as well.

SPEAKER_06 33:06

There's a lot of obviously should have done that, yeah, but he just wasn't too consistent. Yep, you go. I mean, the band, we saw what happened, yeah, fumbled. Um, P Square, they fell out. You know what I'm saying? Um, all of them, all of them. I just don't know what it is, which goes back to we always build shit, but we never really maintain it. But it's you get me. We don't care about our legacies and how our legacies will come across 10 years, 20 years from now. You know what I'm saying? Hopefully, this new cats. When I say this new cats, I'm talking about the Burns, the Davidos, the Weez Kids, all them people can be consistent to that point and still be great to the point that 20 years, 30 years from now, they don't do it, they will do it because they finally broke the barrier.

SPEAKER_01 33:54

They're now considered global artists. So, yes, they have a structure, they have a record label, they have a lot of things in place for them to be able to do stuff like that. That's the thing. So, those other guys are like, I won't say victims because obviously they played a part in however things worked out, but for the larger part of it, it's not necessarily just all their fault, you know. Talk about the country they're in, they talk about this like the lack of structure. But you see, your burners they're signed to international labels, they're partnered with international labels. So those guys would always be there. You know, those ones love archives, they will obviously archive your stuff, help you keep it, it's well curated, and they need to make money. So them doing this just as Jay-Z is doing it, regardless, he's doing it because of course it's Jay-Z as well as making money. Okay, exactly. And these things are his record label, which he owns or partly owns, it's the same thing these record labels we do for the burners at the David O and Whiskey, as long as they're still partnering with them. What they're gonna do is gonna help them in 20 years, say, Oh, let's do this anniversary stuff. Like David O is doing um some small concert at the O2 forum, Kentish on the 11th of August to celebrate his album launch or album release, whatever the case is. So you see all of these things, they're learning from the people you've seen doing it. So unfortunately, well, the good thing is as long as we have a good catalogue, then you'll be able to celebrate it 50 years from now. That's why Jay-Z has that. Like, like you can see, everyone, everyone, some people have the reasonable doubt, some people are like the blueprint, blueprint too, some people are like four foot. Bro, there's everyone that's got something that they love and they can relate to. And also when you listen to the album, he's not just talking about the same subject matter, like he's rapping about himself, talking about experiences, borrowed experiences, and stuff like that. Well, here we're talking about hold my hand back, brother.

SPEAKER_06 35:43

Yeah, but that's RB, it's kind of like the same thing. You know what I mean? Like when you look at RB for the most part, all they think about is love, sex, I don't think you understand. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:53

I get what you're saying, but it's not structured lyrics. That's what I'm trying to say. Uh, if you listen to songs like Joe Disney, bro, what are they talking about? The subject matter is not that great. But when you hear when you hear the song lyrics, I can pick out things, I can write it down, I can go over it. It's still talking about almost the same thing, this your technos and these other guys are singing, but it doesn't just have structure again. It's just lyrical, I don't want to call it jargons, but it's just lyrical splatters everywhere, just different stuff. That so Afrobeat is heavily on rhythm, melody, it's not on rhyme, it's not on lyrics. Yeah, so I get that, but you can still change it, you know. But hey, yeah, we're better than changed it. You know, we've if you listen to Forester, I'll pick up a very random song, not that random, yeah, yeah, for instance. If you listen to the song, he's talking about a lot of things. You know, you he has quotables in there, uh but anyway, if that works well for them and people are buying it, people are listening to it. But now I just don't want to be entertaining on the song. I'm already bored. Even when you played um that one with um Young John and what's the name of that song? Young John and um Ashake, yeah. The first time I heard it months, months ago, it sounded, but now I'm like I don't know, it just doesn't sound it doesn't didn't age well. Like this sneak in Tony is the beat, it's such an amazing beat.

SPEAKER_06 37:21

But that's the thing though, right? You know, and that's the reason why I sort of push back a little bit because let's not act like we don't know what our type of music is about. You know what I'm saying? If I'm listening to rap, if I'm listening to hip hop, right? There are artists that when I once I just put them on, I know what to expect. It's like my brain shifts. I'm not expecting top-tier lyrics from them. You know what I'm saying? I'm expecting, you know, rhythms, I'm expecting vibes, beats, and all that kind of shit. You know what I'm saying? While there are artists, i.e. Jay-Z, right? I turn him on, it's like my brain switches. I'm listening to what he's saying. Nas, I'm listening to what he's saying. You know, to me, that's the same thing with what we call Afrobeats, right? I don't expect top-tier lyrical whatever from these people. I do not. You know what I'm saying? I'm not expecting lyrics. Yeah, no, no. So so I'm not surprised or I'm not disappointed when I hear I and I understand exactly what you're saying, but I'm not surprised and I'm and I'm not disappointed. I I just listen to the song for the vibe of the song, basically. That's it. Yeah, you get what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01 38:43

Yes, you can do that to an extent. That's what I'm saying. For a while, we've done that for a while because we were excited about the explosion of Afrobeats. I'm not against that. I'm not saying people shouldn't make fast food music. Do your thing, it can be lyrically empty, very vacant. I don't mind. But I'm saying there's a repetition to it, and it's boring. From where I'm from and from the era I'm from, we were purely on lyrics, bro. From even the most very on serious songs from Ulumentane, like you hear the lyrics Igola, Wang Belo, Mio Male Timoto. Like it's fun, I can relate, and I'm like, rah. Again, it's not that deep, it's not that substantial, but we can still listen to it. It's structured. Then we've gone again to even I catch code, catch. All did they do? They interpolated and sampled ludicrous area code, yeah, drop lyrics. If uh I can sing till today, I can sing word for word that song. Well, they gave me batty, yeah. Wallahi and me colored. Like, bro, come on, man. And we're here saying, Oh, we switch, don't switch nothing. We're enabling nonsense, bro. We've moved from that to this. Then we had that area of um activist um artists. We have your daddy shoki shoki show, bro. These songs are silly songs, but they were adding gems. You're like, mmm, I'm kidding. Then we had another era, oh, Lou Fumi, you're talking about love, but I promise you this song. When I said to you, but and I'm listening to them, I'm going, rah, lyrics. Then we've come to this era, and now people are just enabling. This is what I'm saying. Bad behavior is not just bad behavior. We enable it, including me. I've enabled it. I'm not saying, but um, I've stopped now. Now I said pick and choose the song. I really want to even guess, and I make um clear, I go, I love the beats of this song. Man is great, man. We need to change it. So, are you saying that that the techno song is trash?

SPEAKER_06 40:47

No, no, no. Be honest, bro.

SPEAKER_07 40:50

You said everyone ever you you said everything.

SPEAKER_01 40:53

There is bro, let's call it trash, bro. There's no one talented. I'm not, I'm not making this up. I genuinely think techno is genuinely the most talented artist in Nigeria. In my opinion, I've said this for years, since 2016-17. He gave the videos hits, like he changed an era, bro. The guy is talented. I'm not, I'm just on the buttons. I'm using him as a reference point. It's nothing to do with techno. That is techno style. Techno's always been there. I'm saying we have 30 other songs, I promise you, within that subject matter. Again, I don't want other artists to feel like, oh, so why do you only want techno to do it? Because techno has mastered that. So you coming up, do something else, bro. Go and do something else. Let's listen to something else. We don't want to hear another techno. You don't do it.

SPEAKER_06 41:38

Techno mama just got you trash, bro.

SPEAKER_01 41:40

Oh, you know, take it, take it. You know, hey, songs. I've related to songs. I like I like technical songs. I would say if it's trash, I would tell the truth. There's no one I say, I don't like it's trash. If a song is trash, that song is not bad. You can hear Bob just fucking with me. No, no, no, no, no. I'm just saying, if it's rubbish, I don't care about these guys that much, but I really do like um techno's talent, bro. Like, if we go back to the first song that a commercial song of techno featuring Davido, oh, if you know that song, huh? When I was back in high school, hey, I mean uh one day I'll start a musical podcast, just sit down and just be going through this on. That was a banger. Like, even techno tell you that's a banger. And techno's always done well for himself. Obviously, he had this hiatus with the whole health scare and all things. Cool. But I'm just saying, listening to that, it's like I want to hear growth. Yeah, not just from techno. I'm talking about from the industry. That's why a lot of people put Burner Boy somewhere different. So when he drops an album, that is like you're like, what the heck is this? Hence why people still target him when he goes, when he said that whole Afrobeat has no substance, then he released songs like ta-ta-ta. And people are like, Oh, but it's Afro funk. No, I know a lot of Afro funk music, and there's lyrics to it. Oh, yeah, Burner Boy is allowed to have fun. He's dropped loads of albums and songs that has got lyrics in it. Yeah, it's allowed to have fun, but that's that's just my thing, man. Yeah, I hear that still.

SPEAKER_06 43:24

I hear that. Talking about Bonaboy and everything, man, because we've talked about him um a couple times now. Yeah, the FIFA, it just came to my mind the FIFA World Cup halftime show.

SPEAKER_01 43:35

Oh, that's dope for him, man. Well, he's climbing up the charts anyway, with that diary. I get it, I understand. Shakira, we know, but hey, it takes two to tango, man. He does, he did his thing. His verse is wasn't trash. Remember why I told you guys said the song, I didn't think it's a bad tune. I didn't think then, anyway. Now I actually like the song in a weird way. Maybe because I've had to watch a World Cup and the song is just being picked. Listen, but that's my point. You gotta say, but that's my point.

SPEAKER_06 44:03

They just they just flood you with the song and everything, and you don't even know what fucking hit you. You gotta say, I'm telling you, it's like right there in your subconsciousness and everything, and it's just ringing in your brain. There was a time that I was upstairs working on my computer, and I just found myself singing in another. I said, bro, but that's the power of music, innit? You get what I'm saying? But I still don't fuck with the song, you know. But I I understand, like commercially, it is it is that song, and you were talking about the walker, you get what I'm saying? And we we might come back in 2020, the song might still be playing again. You know what I'm saying? It's just one of those songs where you know he can eat from the song forever.

SPEAKER_01 44:46

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_06 44:47

You know, if he does his business, which you know he will always handle his business and everything, it's one of them songs that he can eat from forever and everything, you know. But um, the halftime show, the first of its kind when it comes to World Cup, FIFA, everything. They're looking at 30 minutes break, bro. That 30 minutes break, bro. Yeah, with 11 minutes of performance and everything. Like, and then who knows? They are gonna bombard us with commercials and everything. We're talking about America, the capital of capitalism, in there, yeah. You gotta say, do what they've got to do, yeah. But um we are now looking at that, it's gonna be him, so it's gonna be Bonaboy, Shakira, Madonna, Madonna, BTS, Justin Bieber, BTS. That is a superstar lineup, right there, bro. Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_01 45:36

That's that's that's what you call capitalism pro Max, pro Max OD, Pro Max and everything. That's capitalism OD, bro. Because Justin Bieber, Canada covered his like a global star. BTS, you know what a deal, man. You can't have a chat today. Madonna, you bruh, come on. You already know. You've covered all bases. Shakira, you already know you're bullying people now.

SPEAKER_06 45:58

And then him from Africa. Listen, that's a big deal and everything. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 46:01

He's been aim act as the face of Afrobeat. I've said this a long time ago. Bonner boy is the face of Afrobeats, man. Because he suits the idea of what it is that they want to see from Afrobeats. That's it. Bonner boy is the face of Afrobeats. That's that's what this means, basically, to me. Wow, that's what it means to me.

SPEAKER_06 46:19

That that's a mouthful right there.

SPEAKER_01 46:21

Pause in it, the face of Afrobeats. Yeah, that's what it indicates. From time when yeah, I guess. Hey, he's the one touring the most. He's the one, like, no, let me not say the most because obviously Madi Kuti, Femi Kuti, She, all these guys are doing. I'm talking about in the modern Afrobeats. The pop. Yeah, he's the one that that's touring the most, he has the most um, should I say, most um, toward capacity in terms of like stadiums and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I guess he's the face. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 46:58

Would you say that he's the biggest Africa's musical export?

SPEAKER_01 47:05

Pop export to the world. Yeah. So if we're talking about in this era, I'm talking about in this era with his own colleagues and stuff. Yeah, he's the biggest man. The whole of Africa. I won't go the whole of Africa though, because that's a bit it's a lot of yeah, from the Kenya, from South, yeah, the love of big artists, you know.

SPEAKER_06 47:28

But which is why I said because because what's the name of this Congolese guy in Arafit? He's about to do two days in in um the O2 back to back. What's the um this Congolese guy's name again?

SPEAKER_01 47:42

Oh, File Pooper. File Pooper. Two days straight. Yeah, but Filey Pooper is big in the Francophone world, francophone world, but I don't know if they know him that much in America, but Burner Boy is known in the pop world in America. Yeah, and Burner Boy is in the World Cup song with the biggest uh uh what's it called? Um it's the biggest sport in the world, but I'm talking about the World Cup in itself, it's the biggest uh festivity when it comes to football. Like when it comes to sports, it's the biggest. So him just being there already, and we're talking millions don't watch football, it's billions. So just imagine that's why if you check the numbers, the views on that song. It's crazy. That died song was released a month ago. It's uh it should be on 300 and something maybe. Yeah, it's gone, it's gone, it's gone. There you go. So and it's gone up the charts as well. The 200 whatever charts. I don't check it, but I saw that on the news.

SPEAKER_06 48:34

So, according to you, let's get this right. So, according to you, you think that Bonaboy today is the face of Afrobeats.

SPEAKER_01 48:41

Yeah, that's that's what I think. I I'm not I'm not sure about it, but I think that because it's all all the indic, yeah, all the indications just yeah, and you also think that he's the he's Africa's biggest musical export out there right now. No, no, no. I don't think it's Africa's biggest music export. Nigerian export at the moment, yes, Africa is too big, man. There's some people that are just not known, uh, I would say that we don't know, but they probably the biggest exports. But for me, the fact that they've looked at Shakira and they've said, let's get Burner Boy, that was a well, whoever curated that knew what they were doing. Do you get it?

SPEAKER_06 49:16

I would say he's probably is because we're talking about the World Cup right here, bro. Yeah, yeah. We're talking about the World Cup. I think I think there's an argument to say he is Africa's biggest musical export at the moment.

SPEAKER_01 49:28

I won't stretch the stretch it to Africa, but I'm just saying Niger.

SPEAKER_06 49:32

Yeah, and I know that some people might might throw out some names and everything, but he's in the conversation for sure. Oh, yeah, bro, 100%.

SPEAKER_01 49:38

You can't mention five, you can't sorry, you can't mention 10 artists in Africa right now and not mention Ben of God. No, you cannot.

SPEAKER_06 49:44

Yeah, so there you go. So you definitely cannot. So him performing on this stage right now. Yeah, I'm gonna ask you, is this bigger than the Super Bowl? That's not even a question, bro. Super Bowl, um, the most on our boy performing on the World Cup Finals halftime show. Yeah, it's bigger than the Super Bowl.

SPEAKER_01 50:07

One million percent. It's not even a question, man. Like the the Super Bowl, um, the last one got, I think, roughly 300 million views. The opening ceremony for the World Cup got 1.5 billion views, bro. So we're not even and remember, it's not all they didn't get all the metrics. Just remember that. So it's we're probably going into 2 billion, 3 billion. Bro, come on, man. Also, coupled with the fact that football is it's a it's a global sport, yeah. It's a global sport, and everything. But no, we can't what's super bowl. Super Bowl is just particular to Americans, and it's because you know how Americans are they're very they're very aggressive with how the market thinks, yeah. It's from that's why it became a popular thing in the pop culture world where people in the UK don't watch anything to do with it, but because it's like oh halftime show, it's this artist, it's become it, it became a thing, it became a thing over the last six-seven years because I remember 2012, 13, no one cared about it, but now it's become a thing, like worldwide though. You're talking about worldwide. I don't mean in America, America they've always cared about you know, Michael Jackson has done it. Beyonce, I'm talking about worldwide, I'm talking about places in Africa that never used to talk about. If you go on Twitter now, or X as you like to call it, um, you see people talking about halftime show, comparing it.

SPEAKER_06 51:18

But but but does it matter that that um he's not the only person on that stage? If he was the only person on that stage, we would have said, Okay, yeah, you know what, this is his stage, but it's him and four other people.

SPEAKER_01 51:31

Yeah, it's the song wherever he's gonna be performing. How many minutes? How many minutes, and also the song is not just him on the song, it's him and Shakira, right? So if anything, Shakira will be bringing him in, bringing, bringing him on because it's a song featuring, or should I say Shakira and Burner Boy, because he had about eight to sixteen balls, so it's not like it's just like a quick hey, hi, and gone. But it's like he had a full control, but but but then you you understand what I'm saying, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 51:58

Because when Kendrick was featured, when Eminem, Dr. Dre, and all that did their thing and featured Kendrick, right? Nobody said, you know, well, yeah, we say, all right, cool, we hear it. You get what I'm saying? But then when he now did his thing, you know, do we wait for Bonaboy to do his own halftime FIFA show? Or should we say, you know, well, he's on that stage with us people now, so it counts.

SPEAKER_01 52:22

I think either way, it's a win for him. W Burner, man. It's a win for him. I don't care in that situation. Because, like I said, it's a World Cup. We don't, I don't expect one person, that's why they've got multiple people doing it anyway. They've had your they've got their Madonna BTS because it's not particular to one person. The only person I think that could just do that show just by themselves is dead, which is Michael Jackson, in my opinion. That's the only person I believe that FIFA will be like, yo, because he's globally known. So that's why they've handpicked these people to perform on that day, because these people touch every corner, they represent their continent, exactly. They touch every corner, these are the biggest stars, yeah. You know, so they represent every corner around the world. Obviously, Drake is not as big as Justin Bieber. I know some people like to think Drake is the no Justin Bieber is different.

SPEAKER_06 53:09

So if that's the case, if that's the case, let's now look at it objectively. If FIFA, global sports worldwide, no one can debate that, the biggest sports in the world, yeah, football says, yeah, football, says, you know what, we want the faces of each continent out there in the world, and that's what they did. So we look at um the Spanish-speaking country, Shakira. The Spanish speaking country, Shakira. Yeah, we look at Asia, BTS, yep, we look at um America, Madonna. Yeah, America, Madonna, Canada, justin Bieber, Justin Bieber, Africa, Bonaboy. So it's safe to say that he is the face of Africa, yeah. And he's probably face of Afrobeats, the face of Afrobeats, yeah, and it's safe to say that he's probably the biggest musical export from Africa. Because, like FIFA, they will look at the metrics.

SPEAKER_01 54:12

Oh, yeah, they look at metrics, of course. They'll look at the metrics.

SPEAKER_06 54:15

All they care about is money. FIFA don't care about anything, they'll look at the metrics and everything, and just say, now couple with the facts that oh, okay, we are actually right. We he did this song with Shakira, and look at what this song is doing. That means that we actually got this right, yeah. So here we are.

SPEAKER_01 54:32

Yeah, so that means can this be compared to Ramas Calm Down? Uh, don't worry, guys. I'm I'm I'm just throwing it. That Reman's Calm down was out of here, though. Wait, that's what I'm saying. This might be out of here too. Or maybe it's just go with that Reman's Calm down, it was out of here. No, no, no. Maybe within a month. Um, because maybe because of the uh football um festivities, that's why the song was so maybe after World Cup the song might not be as relevant anymore. We'll see what happens with it.

SPEAKER_06 55:00

Let's see what happens with it. But shout out to my man, though, yeah, man.

SPEAKER_07 55:08

Shout out to my man.

SPEAKER_01 55:18

You you like that song, man.

SPEAKER_06 55:20

I couldn't start that song, bro.

SPEAKER_01 55:21

But these people are telling me that I said it's not it doesn't have a replay anyway. Let me not entertain this ex-people, man.

SPEAKER_06 55:28

So these guys keep smoking different drugs, yeah, bro. Fam D you watch um act versus Shalomane God, their conversation, bro.

SPEAKER_01 55:35

Yeah, I think that was a really good content to be fair. I think we very good content.

SPEAKER_06 55:39

People need to do more of that three hours, in it, something like that.

SPEAKER_01 55:42

Yeah, I didn't watch the whole three hours. I did. I didn't watch the whole three hours.

SPEAKER_06 55:45

I sat here for three hours watching that shit. I didn't go that far. Yeah, I think it was happening the day that I don't know what football was happening, so I was watching the football and and also watching it. Yes, so guaranteed the football was mute, and yeah, facts I can't do that, facts, but it was a very good conversation though, totally enjoyed and everything. Like it's just one of them ones where you're watching two people that clearly picked the side, you know, even though Shalomane is acting like he didn't pick a side, yeah. You did. You get what I'm saying? But you're watching two people that actually picked the side and everything, you know. Ak obviously is repping Ovio with his OVO chain on, you know, Shalomane is obviously uh repping Rock Nation with his with his rock nation pin on him and everything, you know, but it was a good conversation where you know Ak was feeling that he was feeling like Rock Nation was coming for him, and that Rock Nation is playing some some sort of games, and you know what, you know, some sort of proxy games and everything, you know.

SPEAKER_01 56:50

I I I would like to think or I would like to say he's delusional, but he's not. He's uh absolutely valid to think of or feel that because we don't know what he's dealt with, we don't know what he's seen, we don't know what science is that's out there for him, and also when you talk a lot, like actors in streaming, that breeds that definitely breeds uh paranoia, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 57:14

Of course, because you've said a lot of things, you can't remember what you said, and and also he has a right to feel like that because they called him in for deposition. He said he was called in for deposition, and he and he was in the position for, I believe he said for like was he eight seven to ten hours, something like that. You get what I'm saying? And they were asking him bad questions, and one of the lawyers slipped up, or rather slipped up and everything, yeah. And he saw something that looked like a text of them saying, Oh, we need to report this to what's her name, to Desiree, who is the head of Rock Nation and everything. So he knows what he's seen.

SPEAKER_01 57:52

I know so sometimes I feel like Ak is even adding bits to that whole the text. I just think is it's a good story. I'm not gonna lie, it's it's it's it's yeah, it's a good story, but I just think it's exaggerating, which is fine.

SPEAKER_06 58:04

But he's been talking about it though for time since the pollution thing. Only streaming. He got me, but conversation was was actually really good, right? But I was watching that whole thing, right? And the conversation that we had last week came into my mind, okay, because I was looking at the whole comments and everything, everybody was going about it, you know, and I'm talking about some of the things that I said about the whole shebang between Adeshay and Whiskey and everything. You go, I'm saying, which was so funny. Because one of the clips that we put out there, Gracie May, so salute to her and everything. Yeah, shout out thanks for the shout out. No, some like, yeah, what was it say? Um thank thanks for the shout out or thanks for the name of Nick. No shout out, shout out. You go, I mean, she was being sarcastic about it, obviously. You go, I mean, because because I mentioned her name on the clip, yeah, but it's context to it. But bro, the clip has been out for two years now. You get me, and the clip trends every three to six months, yeah, religiously. You get me? Everybody knows your name on it. You got what I'm saying, and the thing is, I just don't understand this whole why people are scared, you got me, or afraid of whatever. Like, what is this?

SPEAKER_01 59:30

If you said something to understand, sorry, bro. When obviously she said that I and I got the for me, the tone was uh very sarcastic, uh sarcastic, yeah. Cool, but was anything said after that? No, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_06 59:43

But oh, but obviously, I understood what she was saying, like yo your family, like why would you call my name though?

SPEAKER_01 59:49

No, but there's no way you could tell that story without calling her name.

SPEAKER_06 59:52

That's my point, though. What the heck? You get me, but my point is with the comment that she obviously put out there and everything. Everybody knows it's you, stand on it. You go, I'm saying, if you're talking head, which goes back to what I was trying to say for people that don't understand, because you know, I saw the comments and everything, Dotune and all that, you know, left some comments and everything. Yeah. And he was saying something to the to the effect that it's not fair because Adesha Bear's job as a hype man is his job and everything. Yeah. I think a lot of people sort of misrepresented or didn't understand what I was saying. The whole hype man on stage and everything, you know, MC on stage, carrying the crowd or whatever, that's his job. No one is saying that. You got me? Nobody is saying that. I was referring to whenever he sees these people backstage and everything, the whole hailing and everything. Like, that's what boys in the street corner do and everything when they see some of the celebrities. You know, you're hailing them and everything. You know what I'm saying? Like to me, as an elder statesman that he is, he shouldn't be doing that. But let me take it away from him. Let me talk to the people, yeah. For people that don't understand, there are two sides when it comes to this music thing. Yeah, you have the side of the people, which is the fans, and you have the side of quote unquote the elites, the music heads, the artists, all that stuff, right? If you're playing the corporate game, you want to rub shoulders with them, you want to be in the room with them, you want to hail them, all this kind of stuff, right? I'm sorry to tell you, you are not allowed to tell the truth. You cannot be objective in your assessment. You know what I'm saying? I can come out today, everybody knows I love Honor Boy. Yeah, I can come out confidently and say this year, the album that he dropped was not all that. I can come out and say that musically, I don't think he lived up to his greatness. I can come out and say that and go to bed, nobody will be surprised, nobody will be like Mama Gamba, and everything. Yes, some of the people in the comments might say something, but that's about it. But do you know why? Do you know why? Because I'm not trying to be body body with all those people. I respect them, I respect their craft, I respect order. You know what I mean? But if I'm here trying to be kumba yamaring with all those people, you know, saying um this and the in the young you know, I'm seeing bastard, I'ma see this person. I'm sorry, I will not be allowed to be objective. You got what I'm saying? You can say whatever you want to say, yeah, but you're gonna feel the heat because people will say, Oh, I thought you were cool with this person. You got what I'm saying? But the thing is, if you're on the side of the people, if you're on the side of the fans and everything, some things you might say might rob some people the wrong way. Whether you're right or wrong. Because you are not allowed to be objective in your assessment when you get too close to power. That's how it is. That is the reason why Poke Lee cannot do this. This stuff that we are doing right now, he cannot do it because he is too close to power. He is body-body with all these people, he will always put him in front of the mic, he will dance around Michael Jackson, Summan Smooth, and everything. You are not gonna get any objective opinion from him. That's a humble fact. You get me, and that's what I mean by my you cannot be these people's hype man backstage. I'm not talking about in front of the stage, crumbling everything. That's your job, that's your job. I'm talking about backstage, oh this is this. You cannot be body-body with them, you cannot wanna break bread with them, all this, all the summer things, and do this. It doesn't work because people will sniff it out from the camera, bro. People will know that you're trying to share, and the moment you open your mouth and a slip of objectivity comes down, yeah, you are gonna get the backlash LaMan did. That's all I was trying to explain last week. You get what I'm saying? I don't think it was that hard to comprehend. I didn't think so, but clearly it was, brother.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:52

You have time to explain to these people.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:54

No, no, no, no, no. We have a podcast. This is a talking podcast, so we'll just go too.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:57

I I know the same things in life, bruh. Listen, as long as you can't, if you want to fight me, come to my house. Let's fight. Because at the end of the day, you didn't disrespect anyone. No, you didn't insult anyone, you didn't call people out of their names, you didn't, you know. Hey, at the end of the day, we all know what we're doing. We're all adults. Come on, we all know what we're doing, man. I get it, people need to feed, people need to stay on top of their game, people need to be in the know, people need to be irrelevant and all. We all know what we're doing. We're adults, man. Let's behave ourselves, yeah. This whole thing, we know what we mean. Listen, even a even a small child listening to this podcast, listening to the conversation, would understand that oh, he means like hailing. Maybe we need to start using different words for different things. I don't know. Because it's English we're speaking, brother. Man said hype man, they didn't mean hype man on stage. Let's all behave ourselves, man. We know what we're doing, man. We're all adults, and I get it. We all want to be you listen, in life, you don't have to be friends with everyone, you know. Just just be yourself and your life will be sweet. But I understand, you know what I'm saying? You feel like I need to be in this position to get the look in, I need to do this to. And we see what's going on out there. Streamers are picking size. They want to be friends with a certain artist. So the artist can, you know, can come on their platform. Come on their platform. Yeah. Brother. You don't have to do all that. You can come on my platform, we'll chat, we'll talk, we'll be objective. And I will still like your music. Hey, you go. That's a win-win, to be fair. At least you know that you can trust us when we're telling you something. Not the one that because now you guys are friends, you already know you're not getting the truth from them. Because most of these guys around these artists, anyway, their life depends on the artist's existence. They know that with other artists they can't survive. So they have to keep lying. Ah, this song enter. I enter, boss, boss, you enter. Ah, this is not fire. How can you tell that guy that his song is fire and the song after two months has died? So, which kind of fire is that song? I bro, I'm not gonna lie as an artist, and the people around me tell me it's fire is fire, and my song does not last for more than six months. We all getting fired. Like the real fire will be on you guys. You guys are all getting fired. What nonsense is this? But you got me, you've got like six people. Not even we're not talking about one person, six people, all of them saying this is this is dope. That's not possible. Come on. Well, again, we all know what we're doing. Let's keep doing it.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:12

That's what I'm saying, bro. That's what I'm saying. Because I was getting calls all through the week. You know, I was going through the comments and everything, just reading up what people were saying and everything. And I was thinking, I don't believe that people just didn't understand what I was saying. Oh, obviously, they came for you as well when you started talking about the Bonner Boy thing and everything.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:30

What did I talk about?

SPEAKER_06 1:07:31

Um, when you said that um that when he went to Nigeria, he was hanging out with Bonaboy and and all that, and people started coming for you. I didn't see, I didn't really sorry guys saying that you know that the whole thing didn't have nothing to do with Bonner Boy and everything. Like, I was like thinking, okay, but I but I I kind of understood what you were trying to say.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:51

Bernaboy went to curriculum prison to give back, which is an amazing thing to do. Who was in that video? Who was in the picture? I'm not making this up. What the heck? There's pictures that the evidence are there. The policeman, the chief warden, and all the people were stood. My man was in the picture in the video, it was um exclusive invites to all the so-called industry. My man was in the video. What the heck? So you're telling me that let's say I didn't see it. So you're saying the people that um whiskey fans did not see it. Of course, people saw it. So you think whiskey probably too sound? Okay, fair enough. No big deal, it's just it's allowed to go wherever, but at the end of the day, we can't be that cool. It's simple. I keep saying it to you, Lord. I know you guys, some of you are just dumb, and I have to be honest, you're very stupid and foolish. Think of it this way: that's an up. You see someone as an up. I don't care how mature you are, how emotionally intelligent you are. We're human beings. Let's stop lying to ourselves. If that guy is my up and I see tobes chilling with my ops, I'll feel some type of way. It's just normal. What's wrong with these people? It's a normal thing. I could still be cool with Tobes, but at the end of the day, I'm still gonna look at Tobes a bit different. I'm like, oh, maybe I should be careful why I tell Tobes. That's a natural thing. Vice versa, if you see me chilling with your ups, your your mood and the way you tell me same things will change. I can't blame you. I can't go, hey Tobes, why are you being different? So Whis is a human being. I know to you guys, it might be a god. He's just a normal, normal human being that's talented and knows how to make music. Vice versa of Davido Burnout and all these artists that you love worship. I'm sorry, they're human beings, they feel the same thing you feel. The only difference is maybe they're in different rooms, they've got more money, more access, power, and all that stuff. They're human beings too. You think um Wiskid sitting there just watching another guy chill, the guy that he was chilling with yesterday? Chill, huh? Someone that said something about his mother dying. I just want you guys to think to yourself this brother was on live streams saying something about Whiz. Am I making this one up? So naturally, that would upset Wiz Kid. Like, rah, man has the time to be chat about my mom. My mom is dead. Okay, then this same guy that he was at his son's birthday or his house is now seen chilling with that guy. Use your brain, man. Come on. So you're telling me we shouldn't feel nothing. Yeah, he has nothing to do. This is why I'm saying the government has to do well, you know, they need to create jobs because some of you are stupid, you know. I mean, I'm saying seriously, like normally, some people will be like, Oh, the the the I do hand is the devil's workshop. This one is the I do hand is a foolish you guys are being stupid every day, and it's showing so dumb. Thank god I didn't even read the comic because I would have attacked everyone of you. It's dumb, bro. They're acting like the guy is not human, so in which case should just be cool. He felt some way, felt some way, and that's facts. I will feel some way too. You will feel some way too. So let's behave ourselves. Again, we know what we're doing, though. We all know what we're doing, we're just pretending, we all know what we're doing. Silly people, man. Yeah, bro, they're just being stupid.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:47

And so they were calling me a hater, bro. About what? What you said about Kata Fe. I'm not a hater.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:52

Listen, if I was a hater, I promise you, this is how the world works. And I know some of you are so religious, again, you lack common sense. How the world works, right, is whatever you believe in, and that's why they say careful what you say with your tongue, right? You manifest things, right? If I was a hater, I promise you Qata Fe will be in America. I promise you, no lie, he will be right there. What do you mean? I promise you, if I was a hater, he will be in America in the streamers stream um streamers university. I promise you, because that's what happens to people that hate. If you notice, if you hate on something, it keeps elevating, just to prove a point to you. That's how the universe works. But the universe doesn't work like that.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:30

But what did you even say that made people think that you're a hater?

SPEAKER_01 1:11:34

These people lack comprehension. I'm just saying we need to be careful who we push to represent it again, it doesn't represent me. But that person might represent all of you. Yeah? So if he goes there and says something crazy, again, there's a lot of moving parts. He goes there and do something crazy all in the form or in the name of entertainment. What then happened is the next person that wants to go to the embassy for an interview. You probably don't know. Maybe this person do the interview, watch the streamers university too. Going, is that what they do over there? Nah, man. Yeah, we don't want to, we don't want that. Yeah, we just deny it. So you don't know why it got denied. I know people are, oh, this whole um what do you call ban on nah? The other Nigerians that traveled to America. Again, the universe don't lie, man. If I was a hater, I promise you you'll be there. But I'm not a hater, clearly, it was proven, that's why it's back home. So shout to him, man. Shout out to him.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:24

I mean, like the thing is, right? My whole concern, even though I've said the bad times, I like Carter. But my main concern was, right, because I'm watching this streamer university thing, and the girl, the only girl that I would speak from the UK, I was paying attention when she met with Kai, right? And and Kai was like, yo, y'all representing the UK right now, you know, da da da da, right? The girl was like, oh my god, it's too much pressure. You know, something like that, right? Which goes back to what I said. You know, if this were all adults that are cultured, that sort of understand that, hey, this one person does not represent the whole of UK, or this one person does not represent the whole of Nigeria and everything, it's just him doing his thing, right? I would be like, all right, cool. But these are all young kids in their twins. Impressionable, impressionable kids, right? And when I look at Qatar, I like him. I like him. I enjoy his content, I laugh, and all that, right? The only thing that I don't like about him is whenever he starts tearing his pants and everything, trying to get naked. I'm like thinking, bro, you're doing too much right now. You get me? Like all them sort of things and everything, like you can still stream, you can still be entertaining, you can still color your face and do your thing with Kolu and all that, right? And everyone will like the whole, even when he was cold, yeah, for the um streamer university and everything, my man started tearing off his pants. Kyle was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what the hell? You know what I mean? Like things like that. I don't think you really need to go overboard like that. You get what I'm saying? So I'm like thinking, all right, cool. How would this guy, because knowingly or unknowingly, you're going there as quote unquote the face. I was very, very concerned about how he was gonna carry himself. That was my only concern there. You get what I'm saying? Because it's not easy. All those people think it's easy, it's not easy. Shank, he behaves himself very well and everything. You present himself, but I I was watching Shank as well. He struggled there. You know what I mean? He felt a bit out of place a little bit. You're gonna feel out of place a little bit, you know what I'm saying? So that was my whole concern. I don't think it has anything to do with hate. You know what I'm saying? I like the guy, I enjoy his content and everything. You know, it's to me, it's a shame that the visa thing just didn't work out. I saw people, I saw people making videos bashing my man saying, yo, fam, you should have been more proactive and everything. You know what I'm saying? It is what it is.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:06

Now hopefully he gets another shot. No, yeah, exactly. For this instance, again, I'm happy the universe is decided. Clearly, I've been vindicated, I'm not a hater, it's just the universe saying maybe this is not the route you should go through. You know what I mean? I have a strong feeling at some point we're gonna see Qatar in America doing his thing, which is that's fine. But if it's not to do with the streamers university, so be it. If it is, I really don't care. The guy don't feed me, I don't feed him. I don't care about these guys that much. I promise you. I'm just sitting here chopping it up with my bro, I'm good. Whether Kataf goes to my university or not, it doesn't change the weather, it doesn't make it any cooler. I really don't give a damn. All I care about is how we can be seen in a better light. Again, I don't live in Nigeria, I don't plan on living there. It doesn't mean that all I'm just gonna be like, ah, yeah, let's go. No, I still care about how we're seen, man, in general. Do you know what I'm saying? So all the best to them, man. Yeah, salute to him though.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:07

Salute to him, and bro, the South Africans came for your boy, bruv. For my response to that dickhead called Noter. Hey, can I just say something? I still call him a dickhead, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:22

He's a he's a bell end, bro. You know what I mean? See, I saw on the the comments, man. Say, Oh, I see you've made your way here.

SPEAKER_07 1:16:38

The club made his way to the comments and everything, bro.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:42

I mean, I was at work, I was at my desk. I saw I went, Oh my god. The club made its way to the comments and everything, bro.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:50

Because maybe we're talking about that, bro. Apparently, apparently, somebody left a comment that he went and reported us to to the reform party over there. I said, bro, fuck your reform party, bro.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:01

Who gives a fuck about you love reform doesn't even they don't have any leg to stand on?

SPEAKER_06 1:17:05

What the fuck, bro? Exactly. No, the reform party in South Africa, bro. Oh, no reform. Yeah, the reform party in South Africa, bro. I said, man, fuck.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:18

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, sorry, sorry. Sorry, sorry.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:22

Apparently, yeah, we don't live in South Africa. I don't get it exactly. I don't give a fuck, bro. You're gonna mean you and your reform party, bro. You're gonna say who gives a shit. I said what I said, slick, slick, slick, you're gonna say I said what I said and I stand on it, bro. You get me, and when when I when I look at this this Belend, this clown, say what he said and everything, and the fat guy who was there with him, the guy that looks like a cartoon character, said that um um we made Bonner Boy or Bonner Boy belongs to Russ and everything, something stupid like that. I'm like thinking, who the fuck are these people, bro? I've never I've never heard of this guy, this nota guy, up until today, or rather this week and everything, you know. But apparently he's known in South Africa, and everyone that I spoke to that knows him said that bro, he he he he's just a waste man. Oh, yeah, you could tell when a wasteman speaks, you know. You know what I mean? He's just a waste man who who just says outlandish shit just to trend, and clearly it works. Yeah, you get me because whatever he said made it over to our thing. You get what I'm saying? But I saw people talking about, you know, if Nigeria was all that, you know, that DSTV headquarters was in Nigeria, MTV Base headquarters, all the sort of shit was in South Africa and everything. Yeah, I said, bro, listen. I didn't want to go too deep about all this shit. Yeah, but you you clowns should go down on your knees and take and thank them white folks that are in your country. You know what I mean? You clowns, you South African clowns, yeah, you law that are online talking about South African days and why is it that if Nigeria is older, you law have different types of things to say about Nigeria. Freedom of speech, yeah, say whatever whatever you want to say. Yeah, but you motherfuckers, yeah, should go down on your knees and thank them white folks that made your country. Honestly.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:38

Yeah, liberal structure, man.

SPEAKER_06 1:19:40

I've been to South Africa. You go to Cape Town, Cape Town is like the closest thing you're gonna see to Europe, to Spain, all that travel to Joburg where black, where black people run shit. Tell me what it looks like. You gonna mean travel to Joburg and tell me what it looks like, go to Soweto and tell me what it looks like. So you have all these things to say about Nigeria and everything, yeah? The little provinces, because that's what you like to call it, province, right? That they gave you guys and everything. You guys are running that shit down in the dirt. You gonna mean you lost you, go down your knees. The reason why South Africa is the way it is today is because you guys just got your full democracy in 1994. How many years ago? Thank them white folks that made your country because they made your country. You law don't even run shit in your country, bro. You're you're they're talking about our country, our country. You have all types of things to say about Nigeria. No, bad this, bad that. Do you know how much corruption is in your country? You lot kill kill each other like dogs. You lot shoot each other in the head like dogs. Drugs everywhere. Most of you lot are crackets. You get what I mean? But you guys have have all types of BS to say about Nigeria. I think maybe you guys need to just go back, sit on the floor, and thank them white folks that made your country because they made your country. I don't know. I don't know if you know the history of your country. Your country was a nuclear superpower back in the day. South Africa owned nuclear weapons back in the day. South Africa was doing deals with Israel and Europe back in the day. You go, I mean, the whole uh uh um apartheid and whatever, Israel was teaching South Africa how to manage that shit. I don't know if you guys know your country. Israel is doing it today, they learned it from you law and everything. They saw the mistakes that you guys made in order. The reason why Israel is still thriving with order is because of the backing of America. You law didn't have America's backing, which was the reason why you guys almost got sanctioned to death. And then your your nuclear weapons got taken away. Give me that.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:09

Go confiscated, got confiscated, mate.

SPEAKER_06 1:22:12

You go, I mean, them white folks made your fucking country, bro. So when you come out and open your mouth talking about you made shit, when I look at the provinces or the states that you black people run over there, it's shit. I don't want to go too deep on everything, but you lost to leave Nigeria alone, bro. Do your thing, we do our thing, bruv.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:35

The the thing is, Nigeria is a low-hanging fruit. That's because we have a lot of diaspora, we have a lot of people online. We can't, you know, we're so visible, so it's easier to target us. But it's like sometimes I say to Nigerians, like, yes, Nigeria is bad, or whatever we might want to say about the country. But have you been to other African countries? Do you know what they're dealing with? But because they don't have enough people that would um lament, scream, complain as much as we do because it's numbers that you know I'm saying, because the more people you have, the more you're gonna hear more about the ongoings in a place. You know, there are other countries that are just it's a madness.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:12

I saw I saw this not a prick in the comments and and the likes of him and some bitch who was in the comments as well. Yeah, so talking about if Nigeria was older, yeah, why is it that DSTV had headquarters in South Africa and MTV based and everything? If you don't know, yeah, I'll give to South Africa because of them white folks that made your country. South Africa is is one of the tech hubs in Africa. That's a whole fact. Yeah, because it's structured, you go. I mean, thanks to them white folks, Nigeria had the spending power, which was the reason why you guys move all your shit because you know Nigerians are gonna buy it. But don't come here and act like you guys made your country, you don't even run shit in your country. Them white people that that live in your country run your country. You go, I mean, you guys just got your full independence or whatever, you know, your your democratic independence 1994. It was just a just a couple years ago.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:14

32 years ago.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:15

Yeah, that is the reason why your country is still the way it is. If your if you guys want your shit maybe in 1960 or wherever the case is, and black people are running shit over there, it will look like a piss hole. You know what I mean? When you go to Sa when you go to Cape Town, Cape Town looks like Europe, it looks like Spain. You know why? Because of the white people that run shit there. Go to Joburg. Joburg looks like a dumpster. Go to Soweto, dead, and those are the promises that was given to you, black force and someone right cool. Run it, let's see. You guys can run shit, but you have all types of shit to say about Nigeria. Oh, Nigeria this, Nigeria that. You lot are doing the same thing, bro. You guys are killing each other, shooting each other in the head, drugs everywhere, crackers everywhere, bro. You law, do your thing, leave Nigeria alone, bro. Because, like I said before, fam, we don't want trouble, but we welcome it. I can tell you the history of your country, fam. I can tell you the history of your country. Your country used to be a nuclear power. It got stripped away from you. You got what I mean? The people that made your country are those Europeans that can that came to your country. It wasn't it wasn't you blacks that made your country, bro. All them infrastructure that you're seeing, it wasn't you people that did it.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:38

Shout out to the Dutch.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:39

You got me so please kneel down, suck their dick, and tell them thank you, bro, for making your country. Gobble gobble. Pricks. You know what I mean? These people had so much to say, I would just listen to them thinking, what the fuck? Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:54

That's good, bro. They always invade the comment section to defend what's is indefensible.

SPEAKER_06 1:26:00

Just leave us alone, people, bro.

unknown 1:26:02

Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_06 1:26:02

Let's go afro beats. You all do your I'm a piano. Yeah, man. You do your choo choo choo choo choo.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:08

You know what I mean? And everybody will be fine, yeah, man. You know what I mean? No, no, no. I like that, man. Good one, good one. Everyone will be fine, bro. Good. That's what happens when you say leave people alone, you don't leave them. Bro, before we leave, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:26:25

Yeah, superboy check.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:27

My guy, super boy. Superboy check.

SPEAKER_06 1:26:33

Listen, my man going around and everything. I was watching that thinking who who needs an up when you have a superboy check, bro.

SPEAKER_07 1:26:43

Who needs an up when you have a if you want I'm telling you the roof, bro? You do not need an up when you have my man, bro.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:53

I don't I don't think he said anything that bad, you know. No, didn't it? Didn't it just actually I I love things like that. That's that's the point of sitting in front of a camera. Just tell people the truth. As long as you're not insulting anyone, you're not threatening anyone, you're not lying on anyone, then you're good. You're good to go, man.

SPEAKER_06 1:27:14

I mean, listen, I did enjoy the interview and everything. I did enjoy it, you know. My man was just splitting his mind, bro.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:20

Yeah, I feel he didn't hold back. I think okay, to those people in the comments, I saw people saying PR training. You know what PR training means? You know what being um what's it called, media trained is is to lie. Yeah. This whole idea of you guys trying to steal the way Americans do things. I get it, it's worked for the people. You're not a politician, so you don't need no media training, bro. You're an artist. All you need to do is please don't just say the wrong thing. That's it. All right, cool. Listen, sorry.

SPEAKER_06 1:27:47

I was just looking for the video as you were talking and everything, bro. Can we play the video? Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, cool. Let's play the video.

SPEAKER_20 1:27:55

She's working now. We're gonna meet there now. I'm we're rolling on the floor laughing. Because you know we have a lot of history and I'm working hard on my sheet is working now. We're gonna meet there now. I'm going to we both know the level of our talent, so why do I have to worry?

SPEAKER_19 1:28:08

Facts. So why why why am I too not get songs? Do you do you I mean, what's stopping you guys from having songs together?

SPEAKER_20 1:28:14

I mean, because I would think that you maybe it's not so profitable because I'm not buzzing crazy.

SPEAKER_19 1:28:20

For him, it's not profitable. But it should be profitable for you, so it's not easy, it's not necessarily a few.

SPEAKER_20 1:28:26

I would feel like he should be the one to feature me really in my head. I need that truth now. Together, yeah, so now I have to feature him, right? Okay, now I have to feature him. But very soon we will feature ourselves. But are you supposed to be beggars? I can never beg a man for exactly your guy.

SPEAKER_18 1:28:56

No, no, but see, the thing is, he needs to see. Please feature me.

SPEAKER_15 1:29:00

No, it's not just guy code now, like just.

SPEAKER_19 1:29:10

You understand?

SPEAKER_20 1:29:11

I mean like no, because he's he's he's he's bro. He has been in America for how long? He just bro we both know he's not in Nigeria now, like am I in America?

SPEAKER_19 1:29:21

I mean, a lot of times.

SPEAKER_20 1:29:27

He has zero following, right? Okay, maybe no following.

SPEAKER_19 1:29:30

I don't know. I'm I I don't zero following, and that's fine.

SPEAKER_15 1:29:35

But I don't think following on Instagram doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_06 1:29:36

No, but which is not following me, bro. There's clearly tension here, bro.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:41

Love it. There's clearly tension here. More artists need to just come and say the truth. Nah, I don't. I think people are just looking for what's not there, man. Man just said the truth, bro. That's literally me, bro. So are you saying that there's no tension there? No, I don't see no tension, bro. He's just telling the truth. They asked him a question, a man told the truth. And now this is what about your guy, though. Okay. About your guy. No, no, no. If you listen to the thing, it's not like they were guy, he's using the word guy, like just he should use it. Um, what's it called? He should use it, he's using it, he's not using it sporadically. It's not like guy, guy, like your friends like that. They guy because they knew each other, they went to the same school. Love that, you know, the whole fireboy, da da da da. Cool, they were all close. But I don't think he's like a guy, like the way he is with Fireboy. That's what I think. I think anyway. Because if this was about Fireboy, then I'll be like, whoa, what's going on here? Ashake, you know what I mean? So at the end of the day, they all went to the same school, they know each other, blah blah blah, they chilled together at some point. Like you said in the interview, him and Fireboy got signed first. At that time, Ashakeah had been signed. So it's all good. But I just don't understand how is the interviewer, which is um they do you're asking a guy to tell you something, the guy's telling you, I say, uh you want me the guy lie. The guys I'm telling the truth, you guys are life, man.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:58

Yeah, listen. I was listening to my man and nerfy, yeah, but I was thinking, you know, if you and this person are really cool, there are some things that you are not gonna say the way you say it.

unknown 1:31:09

What the heck?

SPEAKER_01 1:31:10

Yeah, bro. Guys, please, maybe my brain is different. What did he say that was wrong?

SPEAKER_06 1:31:14

I'd never beg a man for if you like in my head, he should be like I'm not thinking all right. No, no, you like no no no no, see, I hear it.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:22

He was even bantering to be fair. You see that BYC for my head. I love that. He's even saying, Yo, this is what I believe in my own head. He didn't go, oh, the guys must feature me. He said for my own head, which means he's even that's like a some sense of self-deprecation. He's saying, making a joke about himself. So for people to know that oh, there's a bit of delusional uh thought here from my own head. It's true, bro. Come on.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:46

Why would you beg for a feature? All right, cool. Let's let's listen to this one real quick.

SPEAKER_19 1:31:52

Yes. Now, I I mean, looking at Ashake, the way we say Ashake take D now, I mean he's worldwide, he's global. You guys don't have songs together. Do you ever right now we don't? Do you ever feel like my guy be this? All of us follow Drink Harry together, all of us follow this album together, all of us have flooded carry our property. Do you ever like do you guys struck to start with? What we see Una know really, really you guys are not in contact.

SPEAKER_20 1:32:22

Right now, no, it's it's it's active, it's blowing big right now. So right now, it's my friends. But which means Una because he's his father on Instagram is zero versus a big star friend now, so you can do what he wants. But he's my friend because it has been good to me. When we see the last money, I at Bajie, with him bad. That's the truth of the IT Bajie, with the bad year, and we're rolling on the floor last year. Because you know, we have a lot of history, and I'm working hard on my shit, it's working. We're gonna meet this now. I'm going to we both know the level of our talents, so why do you have to worry?

SPEAKER_19 1:33:01

So why not should not get songs? So do you do you I mean, what's stopping you guys from having songs together?

SPEAKER_20 1:33:07

Maybe because I would think that you maybe it's not so profitable because I'm not because he's crazy.

SPEAKER_19 1:33:14

For him is profitable to be profitable for you, so it's not easy, it's not necessarily exactly.

SPEAKER_20 1:33:19

I would feel like he should be the one to feature me really in my head. I need that. Yes, my truth now. If it's together, yeah. So now I have to feature him. Right? Okay, now I have to feature him, but very soon we'll feature ourselves.

SPEAKER_19 1:33:41

But are you supposed to beg that sucking?

SPEAKER_20 1:33:44

I can never beg a man for feature. But now your guy.

SPEAKER_18 1:33:49

No, no, but see, the thing is, he needs to see please feature me.

SPEAKER_15 1:33:53

No, it's not just guy code now, like just.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:04

Bro, you say that there are some that there is no salt in this thing. No, there's no bro. Man just said that when he saw him, like normal guys do. When you see your guy, you're like, Oh, yo, take it, like that playful way of exchanging complimentaries. Man say, yeah, it's for those people that don't understand. Meaning your life has finished, like, you know, like and we're here trying to create it. Brother, there's nothing there, bro. There's zero nothing. And a shout out to Superboy Check. I'm not gonna lie. I've noticed he's from that era where they had no football terms who be like, those are one day kids, like their their their era is stacked with talent. Ashake, fire boy, black bones, bro. I can keep going poker. Bro, they've gone. And this brother is featured the people that clearly can tell that he's reaching out to them. Oh, do you want to jump on the song? They've agree to it. And the rest is not forced it. And I love that for you. Because if you had forced it, probably you'll be, I see people say, blown more than that. So superboy check, hey, big up to you, bro. Like, that's how we need to address people these days, bro.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:04

Yeah, bro. I man said, listen, when we see each other, we'll know if we're still friends.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:08

Like, no, no, that's not what he said. He said, when we see each other, we'll talk. And he even said to the guy that when we met and when we saw each other, we actually exchanged words. And the guy was like, huh? So, yeah, when I saw him, I said, yeah, it's um uh um what he meaning the money has finished your life. Like what else do people want?

SPEAKER_06 1:35:31

I still feel like that's that's a bit of a sort of listen.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:33

In life, you everyone is uh you're free to interpret anything in the way you want. For me, I could just tell this. I just listened the young guy telling the truth. It's not doing this media training nonsense we people want people to do and lie online, then they do something else, you'll be like, ah, we knew it was fake. But you guys asked the guy to be to tell the truth. You guys, you guys are finished.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:55

But that's the thing though. That is the thing. That's that's a good um thing that uh are people really ready for the truth because if artists come out and start telling the truth and everything, a lot of people be like, whoa, watch it.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:06

The more truth we tell here, the more vi again that would cause virality, isn't it? For me, anyway, I don't care about it being viral, this is just a hobby, you know. Again, there's no one paying me to be here, there's no one paying me to be here. So it's not like someone is gonna gun to high school say, say no, you like this guy, say I'll tell the truth. That's facts, and no one can contact me to tell me Jack. And guess what? More record labels will still reach out to me for us to work. That's that's the beauty of it. You know what I'm saying? Because life in this world we live in, business is business, and play is play. I think I care about these people. Shout out to you, super boy check man. Don't let anyone know.

SPEAKER_06 1:36:48

Yes, sir. Your mom. It's been a good one, great conversations. Totally enjoyed it. Yeah, mom. You go, I mean, you know, um, I guess the highlight of the weekend will be I've got a wedding to go tomorrow. Yeah, sorry. So um what are you gonna wear? That'll be a good one. Obviously, suit today. The first suit I'm putting on this year.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:13

Just by yourself. You're gonna buy yourself, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:37:18

Yeah. So just gonna go down there, see what's going on.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:23

So when are we gonna wear a suit for you? When are we gonna wear a suit for you? Hey, brother, you didn't even answer my own question. I mean, say that answer your question with question.

SPEAKER_07 1:37:41

Oh, you want to poop me in hand in high job, yeah? Like the guardians will say the messy, checked his shoulders. When he hear questions, hey, yeah, we got you go, you got to take a touch, man. So, yeah, that's gonna be that.

SPEAKER_06 1:38:00

Nice. And then, and then obviously Sunday, finals and all that, you know. We'll see how that goes.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:04

Yeah, my weekends. Some of you already know, it's very predictable. Football got a tournament tomorrow. Then Sunday got the finals to watch. Two beautiful countries that want to play football. Finally, football is gonna win on Sunday. Yeah, Saturday and Sunday. Football is gonna win on Sunday. Who are you rooting for? For where? Um Sunday. Oh, my my go, bro, my go to plays for who nah bro. I won't I'm spending too many. Nah, man. Ankana Mercy, Ankana Mercy, Ankara Messi, Mercy, Mercy, Mercy, Mercy, Mercy, whatever.

SPEAKER_06 1:38:37

Did you see that? Um immediately Argentina won an RF, yeah. Bro, the media started talking about how racist the country is. How racist Argentina is, bro.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:46

They start bringing up before before we go, yeah. Let's put it this way, yeah. You know how we all, because this I say the world, most of us, we are all hypocrites, including me. We all have hypocritical tendencies, yeah. Cool. Just the same way some people will be like, I don't like Michael Jackson. I think he da blah blah blah blah blah listen to a song. Some people say say say the same thing for R. Kelly, for even Tupac, Biggie, everyone has got their own thing. That's the same way. You see me, I really don't care about Argentina, bro. All I care about is one guy and one guy only. And his name is Lionel Messi. The greatest human sorry, sorry, sorry, think that about the greatest alien to touch this earth is not he is not real. He's never been real. But I'm just happy that he's come in a human form to show and let us know that it's impossible. But we know it's impossible, but no one else can do what it's gonna do until we leave this earth. No one's gonna play football like him. Yeah, that's done and dusted. Now I don't think any media in the Western world has the cheek and the right to talk about racism. Hey take off the log in your own eye before you start stretching a hand that you're thinking are you talking about racism? Let's not do that, bro. Let's not do that. I can understand if it's an African country doing this, talk about okay, cool, we're all black, brother. Let's not do that, man. Let's let's not. Seriously, let's not. Alright, cool. Me myself, I'm rooting for Spain. You're rooting for Argentina. Mercy, Mercy. Yeah, listen, I'll be honest with you. If Mercy doesn't win it, guess who's gonna win it? Laminia man. But I would prefer for Argentina to win it. If they don't, I'll be happy for Spain. But you see that nonsense happening tomorrow? Two bricklayers and capitas playing football, think later.

SPEAKER_07 1:40:39

Anywho, listen, it's been a good one.

SPEAKER_06 1:40:42

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